Molly B. Posted May 24, 2023 at 02:23 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 02:23 PM Celebrating this historic event 10 years ago today! SB2193 passed the House 85-30-1 at about 12:44 pm. Relive the excitement and play by play with us! Concealed carry would go on to be passed in the Senate, vetoed by Gov. Quinn and then the General Assembly would vote to override the veto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted May 24, 2023 at 02:25 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 02:25 PM The day heck froze over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper13 Posted May 24, 2023 at 02:34 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 02:34 PM They cried Blood on the streets, It will be the Wild West....Yup, not from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt B Posted May 24, 2023 at 06:25 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 06:25 PM An event worth celebrating and a moment to give thanks to those who fought for so long to achieve such a win. Had we not won that, Illinois would have likely had to wait until Bruen for CCW and I would expect we would then be dealing with the unconstitutional “Bruen response bills” in this state as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted May 24, 2023 at 06:26 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 06:26 PM A day I didn't think I would ever live to see. So thankful for all the hard work that got this passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted May 24, 2023 at 06:32 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 06:32 PM And everyday they work to undo that bill/law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted May 24, 2023 at 06:37 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 06:37 PM No more tongue depressors! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oohrah Posted May 24, 2023 at 06:56 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 06:56 PM On 5/24/2023 at 1:25 PM, Matt B said: An event worth celebrating and a moment to give thanks to those who fought for so long to achieve such a win. Had we not won that, Illinois would have likely had to wait until Bruen for CCW and I would expect we would then be dealing with the unconstitutional “Bruen response bills” in this state as well. I thought a Federal Judge forced the legislature's hand, and threatened mandating Constitutional Carry if they didn't pass some law asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted May 24, 2023 at 07:35 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 07:35 PM Up yours, ILGA! Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted May 24, 2023 at 07:49 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 07:49 PM The OG thread for it should be rehashed. Congrats to us for making it the ten years and not dead like they thought everyone would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted May 24, 2023 at 08:30 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 08:30 PM On 5/24/2023 at 2:56 PM, oohrah said: I thought a Federal Judge forced the legislature's hand, and threatened mandating Constitutional Carry if they didn't pass some law asap. CA7 ruled the carry ban unconstitutional. ILGA was put in a position that it had to figure out a state mechanism to permit carry or it would default to county sheriffs (who could have decided permits were not required, I suppose). It created a somewhat bizarre situation in which those who "took a stand" against legal carry weren't really taking a stand against legal carry. If the "no" votes had prevailed, carry would still have become law, just not state law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted May 24, 2023 at 09:17 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 09:17 PM FWIW: CA7 docket listing for Moore v Madigan December 11, 2012: CA7 panel decision (docket 46); Mandate was staid for 180 days. January 8, 2013: Madigan files for rehearing en banc February 22: CA7 denies motion for rehearing May 8: Supreme Court grants motion to extend petition for certiorari to June 24 June 3: Madigan moves for extension of stay while submitting petition for certiorari June 4: CA7 extends stay to July 9 June 28: Supreme Court again extends petition for certiorari, this time to July 22 There was never a petition for certiorari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTriple Posted May 24, 2023 at 10:40 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 10:40 PM I recall a rumor that the state declined to appeal after the big gun control groups begged them not to, since they were afraid of setting a negative precedent. Was that ever confirmed in any manner or is that just a rumor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 24, 2023 at 11:07 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 11:07 PM Those were crazy times. It was a challenge to keep track of all the test bills will various amendments that ultimately went into the final product. SB2193 of the 98th General Assembly was Speaker Madigan's carry bill - the one meant to force everyone to the negotiation table. To clarify a bit, even though that bill did pass the House on 5/24/2013, it didn't become the Firearm Concealed Carry Act. That honor was reserved for HB883 of the 98th General Assembly which passed back to the House with multiple Senate Amendments on 5/31/2013. The House concurred on SA5, SA6, and SA7 that same day after the other amendments were either withdrawn or tabled. So we can celebrate passage for a whole week, sort of like Advent leading up to Christmas. Here's a link to the 5/31/2013 ILGA thread. It might take you the whole week to read through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted May 24, 2023 at 11:10 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 11:10 PM On 5/24/2023 at 9:23 AM, Molly B. said: Celebrating this historic event 10 years ago today! SB2193 passed the House 85-30-1 at about 12:44 pm. Relive the excitement and play by play with us! Concealed carry would go on to be passed in the Senate, vetoed by Gov. Quinn and then the General Assembly would vote to override the veto. … and a mere 7 months later, instructors were receiving their new licenses in the mail! Cheers, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 24, 2023 at 11:58 PM Share Posted May 24, 2023 at 11:58 PM Let's not forget Paints-n-cows who, 9 months later, was the first IllinoisCarry member known to have received a carry license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted May 25, 2023 at 02:28 AM Share Posted May 25, 2023 at 02:28 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paints-n-cows Posted May 25, 2023 at 11:50 AM Share Posted May 25, 2023 at 11:50 AM I am still in possession of it and still teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted May 25, 2023 at 08:49 PM Share Posted May 25, 2023 at 08:49 PM It was certainly an event to remember. Along with Molly, Mike W and a few who have moved on I entered this fight in May 2004 It took 9 years but we made it. A huge THANK YOU to all that made it possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted May 28, 2023 at 10:17 AM Share Posted May 28, 2023 at 10:17 AM Gives some hope to us now in our fight going forward. The courts will follow through with whats right even against hostile elected governments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted May 28, 2023 at 01:59 PM Share Posted May 28, 2023 at 01:59 PM I can't believe it's been 10 years already. I remember watching video's of Todd V sitting in front of the legislature trying to explain the difference between a right and a privilege. Never thought in a million years we'd ever get legal carry here in IL. It seemed like we were making progress for a while, but now we're falling backward with "assault weapon" and magazine bans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted May 28, 2023 at 02:48 PM Share Posted May 28, 2023 at 02:48 PM It has been and I remember that day at the capitol With a lot of people from here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted May 29, 2023 at 01:33 PM Share Posted May 29, 2023 at 01:33 PM My rep voted NO anyway -- bless her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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