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Semi-automatic rifles legal Post-Pica
Quiet Observer replied to crufflesmuth's topic in Illinois Politics
Yes, there are semi-automatic rifles and shotguns that are legal under the stupid Protect Illinois Communities Act. It is bad enough as it is without people saying that it contains items that do not exist. (720 ILCS 5/24-1.9 new) Sec. 24-1.9. Manufacture, possession, delivery, sale, and purchase of assault weapons, .50 caliber rifles, and .50 caliber cartridges. (a) Definitions. In this Section: (1) "Assault weapon" means any of the following, except as provided in subdivision (2) of this subsection: (A) A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine or that may be readily modified to accept a detachable magazine, if the firearm has one or more of the following: (i) a pistol grip or thumbhole stock; (ii) any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iii) a folding, telescoping, thumbhole, or detachable stock, or a stock that is otherwise foldable or adjustable in a manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability of, the weapon; (iv) a flash suppressor; (v) a grenade launcher; (vi) a shroud attached to the barrel or that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel. (B) A semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, except for an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition. (C) A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine or that may be readily modified to accept a detachable magazine, if the firearm has one or more of the following: (i) a threaded barrel; (ii) a second pistol grip or another feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iii) a shroud attached to the barrel or that partially or completely encircles the barrel, allowing the bearer to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned, but excluding a slide that encloses the barrel; (iv) a flash suppressor; (v) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip; or (vi) a buffer tube, arm brace, or other part that protrudes horizontally behind the pistol grip and is designed or redesigned to allow or facilitate a firearm to be fired from the shoulder. (D) A semiautomatic pistol that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 15 rounds. (E) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder. (F) A semiautomatic shotgun that has one or more of the following: (i) a pistol grip or thumbhole stock; (ii) any feature capable of functioning as a protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand; (iii) a folding or thumbhole stock; (iv) a grenade launcher; (v) a fixed magazine with the capacity of more than 5 rounds; or (vi) the capacity to accept a detachable magazine. (G) Any semiautomatic firearm that has the capacity to accept a belt ammunition feeding device. (H) Any firearm that has been modified to be operable as an assault weapon as defined in this Section. Public Act 1116 102ND GENERAL ASSEMBLY (ilga.gov) -
Vivek appears to really and completely 'get it' about the 2nd
Quiet Observer replied to cybermgk's topic in National Politics
I do not see any of those videos in your post. I am sure those alternate electors in the past were certified by their respective states, and not just a self-proclaimed group that disagreed with the official outcome. There will still be complaints in the timing of the arrival of disabled and deployed votes. Paper ballots are still going to be counted by machines. If counted by hand, there will be complaints that the count is taking too long. Like the chad and "confusing ballot" fiascos in Florida several years ago, people will still mismark their ballots. At least, that will be the claim of many of the losers. -
Must be a very long meeting. I hope that someone ordered lunch. Many come here for help, but never give feedback.
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Most likely that was the time recommended by the mental health professionals who have experience in the area. It may have also been a compromise between legislators with opposing views and information. Mental health is not like a science e.g., physics with known constants and measurements or variables. There is too much variation in the human mind and experiences. Even if you know the exact reason for the 5 year rule, there is nothing that you can about it at this point. I am not saying that you have any problem with alcohol, but Serenity Prayer adopted by the AA is a good guide for life, regardless if some one has a diagnosis or is "absolutely normal". It is good advice, even if you do not believe in a higher power. "God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference."
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"Why the specification of within the last five years?" If a mental health situation is severe enough to require hospitalization, it is probably not going to be cured in a short time. The symptoms may be absent for a while but can return as time goes on. Many addictions work this way. Person is clean and sober for months, thinks they are cured, and then start all over again. Poor coping skills in mental conditions can work the same way. As the person moves farther away from treatment, the pressures of life start having a stronger effect. The person begins losing control. Every person is different, but laws are not written for one person at a time. I imagine that the 5 year period was recommended by mental health professionals who testified before the legislative committees. As noted, the system does make allowances for those who progress more rapidly or for those who may have been misdiagnosed.
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I doubt that the questions have no purpose other than to make the libs feel that they (libs) accomplished something. I would guess that all your suggestions are the most common. No one is going to answer gang member, insurgent, highjack cars, or shoot the SOB across the street.
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So how did the meeting go? Is there any information that you can pass on to others?
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Vivek appears to really and completely 'get it' about the 2nd
Quiet Observer replied to cybermgk's topic in National Politics
Nor did you mention Soros in your statement to which I referred. If you reply to this, will you then switch the subject the cost of green beans in Atlanta? -
Vivek appears to really and completely 'get it' about the 2nd
Quiet Observer replied to cybermgk's topic in National Politics
Many said this same thing about Donald Trump in 2016. I am not promoting or condemning. -
Over 3000 bills were introduced in the General Assembly, but with your lip reading and mindreading skills you were able to know precisely what they were talking about. Here are five new bills proposed in the Illinois General Assembly (sj-r.com) When you have a conversation with someone in a public place, do you speak very loudly when you are next to someone so that everyone within 50 feet can hear? "HEY TOM, DO YOU AND JANE WANT TO COME OVER TOMORROW?" "YEAH, JACK WOULD BE GREAT!"
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You do not appear before the board. You submit the proper documents. May I submit an appeal in person. "No, you may not. If you arrive at an Illinois State Police facility to appeal your firearms rights, you will be directed to leave and submit your appeal through the mail or via email as directed above." FAQs (illinois.gov)
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I think that you are over simplifying. You could miss seeing a speed limit sign that is blocked by a truck in the right lane. A tree branch could obscure a stop sign. You could be injured in an accident caused by the other person, and the EMTs and police find your gun with the "illegal" magazine on your person. I am not disagreeing with the idea of obeying traffic laws.
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CC as "Armed Security Guard"?
Quiet Observer replied to DonP's topic in Illinois Right to Keep and Carry
It does not seem to matter one way or the other. There are requirements for obtaining an armed security guard license in Illinois. Having a CCL is not one of them. You must be licensed to work. They have to take state approved courses. In the state site I did find an exception for former LEOs being exempted from the firearm training, no mention of CCL. Illinois Security Guard Training and Licensing Requirements – Security Guard Training USA (secguard.net) Security Professions (illinois.gov) As for as volunteering, they and the organization should consult their insurance companies and lawyers. "I do not know. It is beyond the scope of this course." is an appropriate answer to his question. -
Possible problem with the bus. "(8) Any bus, train, or form of transportation paid for in whole or in part with public funds, and any building, real property, and parking area under the control of a public transportation facility paid for in whole or in part with public funds." They do serve beer and wine, but not hard stuff. I doubt if alcohol sales are greater than 50% of their gross revenue. I cannot find any definite information on whether they choose to post. Wrigley Rooftops - The Premier Rooftop Destination (wrigleyrooftopsllc.com)
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How many places should the body be flown to? It went to her home in California then to Arlington. How about the multiple costs in a war like WWII, Korea, or Viet Nam, each of which had thousands of more deaths than this one? There would be a lot more bodies flown to home and then to a national cemetery.
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How many guns sold make you a dealer?
Quiet Observer replied to Euler's topic in Illinois Right to Keep and Carry
This is a general link not specific to the case above. I am guessing that he made money on the deal and may have a history of doing so. I doubt that the ATF just picked his name out of the phone book. He did plead guilty. Was there a plea agreement? The article is too brief to make a definitive statement. . "The government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant engaged in a greater degree of activity than the occasional sale of a hobbyist or collector, and that the defendant devoted time, attention and labor to selling firearms as a trade or business with the intent of making profits through the repeated purchase and sale of firearms. See United States v. King, 735 F.3d 1098, 1106 (9th Cir.2013) (citing Instruction 8.53). For a person to engage in the business of dealing in firearms, it is not necessary to prove an actual sale of firearms. Id. at 1107 n.8. Willfully, as used in this statute, requires proof that the defendant knew that his or her conduct was unlawful, but does not require proof that the defendant knew of the federal licensing requirement. Bryan v. United States, 524 U.S. 184, 198-99 (1998)." 8.53 Firearms—Dealing, Importing or Manufacturing Without License | Model Jury Instructions (uscourts.gov) -
She is talking about a trend over the last few years, not just 2023. "While 2023 stats are incomplete, Elgin Police Chief Ana Lalley said last week on her radio show that recent years indicate gangs are responsible for only half of the shots fired in the city". As far as 2023 goes, they can still have enough information to tell if a shooting is gang related, but not enough information to make an arrest. Among the many possibilities are the following. The victim could be a gang member, but the shooter is unknown. Two strangers, with no known gang affiliation, get into an argument in the park and shooting starts and the shooter flees and cannot be found. A bullet goes through a window of a building, but there are no gang connections. Arrest the wrong person without sufficient evidence, there may be a lawsuit. She is not denying that there are shootings in the city. She is saying that people may have a misconception of the source.
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I remember some of the debates and hysteria on our side. What is partially concealed. Could you be arrested for printing? Police are looking to arrest anyone who allows the slightest bit of their gun to be exposed. There would be numerous arrests for carriers who did not see a no guns sign and walked into a building. Some looked at the prohibited areas list and declared that it was impossible to carry anywhere. All in all, I think that things have gone smoothly, but can be improved. I have since moved to the freer state of Indiana. Of course, Illinois now sees me as a danger even though I was in the first batch of non-instructors licensed and had renewed my Illinois CCL a year before I moved. Good luck with all your court battles. Your state government will do little to protect your gun rights unless it is forced to do so.
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Many of us here are familiar with her story. She, of course, was one of the first, of many, to receive an Illinois CCL. He trainers were Mike and Valinda Rowe. I think that they have a little something to do with Illinois Carry. 😜 Mary Shepard #1 In IL to be Qualified for Concealed Carry License (ammoland.com)
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I think that some Jews and Christians think that they are following, "Thou shalt not kill". Others will point out that murder is a better translation. Scripture mentions that self-defense and protection of others may result in the death of the aggressor and is to be excused from punishment. It even prescribes the death penalty for certain offenses. I can understand the fear of bad people doing evil with guns. But signs on doors and wishing protects no one.
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I do not see where the law is specifically antisemitic. It puts any camp or recreational institution run by a religious group in New York state in danger from those who would do harm. This may be outdated, but in 2017 there were 9 states that restricted guns in places of worship. Two States Ban Concealed Carry In Church, Seven Require Permission | GOA (gunowners.org) I was surprised that Illinois did not ban guns in places of worship when the FCCL was passed. I think it still is introduced at each legislative session.