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The difference is that some states like Michigan forbid weapons in churches to begin with. The church leaders have to give permission to have a weapon there. Those states do not automatically ban you from carrying in most businesses. In other states your right to carry into a church or business is automatically recognized by the state. The owner, manager, pastor, etc., has to let you know that their policies do not allow weapons. I know that there are varying laws about schools, parks, trails, etc., in different states. I am just talking about churches.
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CCL almost stops armed robbery
Quiet Observer replied to Euler's topic in Illinois Right to Keep and Carry
I wonder how close his shots came to the women. There is not enough information for me to criticize his actions. -
I was surprised that Illinois allowed CC in churches when the FCCL bill was passed. On the other hand, many bible belt states forbid carrying in church. FWIW, Michigan forbids it unless allowed by presiding official or officials. "5. Any property or facility owned or operated by a church, synagogue, mosque, temple, or other place of worship, unless the presiding official or officials allow concealed weapons." State Name
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Another reason to carry in church.
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No Charges for Self-Defense Case
Quiet Observer replied to Molly B.'s topic in Illinois Right to Keep and Carry
You misread it. "After the son came, a group of men also entered the restaurant, and two of them hit the son in the face, according to the report. The son ran out of the restaurant, chased by the men. Shots rang out, and responding officers found two men, Dexter Williams and Monte Potts, with multiple gunshot wounds, the report said." We could make many guesses on specifically what took place when the men caught with the son. But there is not enough evidence to prosecute, as noted further down the article. -
At least he didn't say it was accidental
Quiet Observer replied to Euler's topic in Illinois Right to Keep and Carry
How do you know that they do not have tactical training? Education and Training Division (ETD) – Chicago Police Department Very little information has been released. No body-cam video has been released. These are a few of the questions to be considered. I am sure the professional investigators will have many more. Did the shooter violate his training? Maybe Officer Rivera moved to the side at the last second? How long do you wait to shoot, if a suspect is displaying a weapon? -
Winn Sheriff Prohibited Places
Quiet Observer replied to John Q Public's topic in Illinois Right to Keep and Carry
Nor are the words "bar" or "restaurant" used in the law. In the early days there was a lot of those here who thought we could not carry in a restaurant, if bar, tavern, pub, etc. was part of their name. Others did not note that the law address places that serve alcohol, as opposed to selling alcohol. "(9) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of an establishment that serves alcohol on its premises, if more than 50% of the establishment's gross receipts within the prior 3 months is from the sale of alcohol. The owner of an establishment who knowingly fails to prohibit concealed firearms on its premises as provided in this paragraph or who knowingly makes a false statement or record to avoid the prohibition on concealed firearms under this paragraph is subject to the penalty under subsection (c-5) of Section 10-1 of the Liquor Control Act of 1934." -
Lost or Stolen CCL questions.
Quiet Observer replied to Mack's topic in Illinois Concealed Carry Licensing Process
From reports here in January it looks like it was taking 60 to 70 days to receive the CCL after applying. As Euler indicated above you are essentially starting from scratch. From CCL Q&A on ISP FSB site. 13. Enforcement What if I am asked to provide proof by law enforcement but do not physically have my CCL or Combo (FOID/CCL) card? Similar to the display of a digital insurance card, the Combo (FOID/CCL) eCard will allow applicants to show their most recent information during a traffic stop. https://www.ispfsb.com/Public/Faq.aspx I found this on Maxon's website. I do not seem to be able to post links and I no longer live in Illinois so do not have a CCL so I cannot verify this. "Illinois residents are now able to generate FOID eCard's through their personal accounts on the ispfsb.com website. After you login into your account you can click on the "My eCard" section in the left menu." I do not know if merchants will accept the ecard. Remember, also, that you will receive only a single card which will serve as both FOID and CCL in the mail. -
If you are driving in Illinois, you can still carry while in your vehicle. Sec. 40. (e) Nothing in this Act shall prohibit a non-resident from transporting a concealed firearm within his or her vehicle in Illinois, if the concealed firearm remains within his or her vehicle and the non-resident: (1) is not prohibited from owning or possessing a firearm under federal law; (2) is eligible to carry a firearm in public under the laws of his or her state or territory of residence, as evidenced by the possession of a concealed carry license or permit issued by his or her state of residence, if applicable; and (3) is not in possession of a license under this Act. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, he or she shall store the firearm within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle in accordance with subsection (b) of Section 65 of this Act. (Source: P.A. 102-538, eff. 8-20-21.) 430 ILCS 66/ Firearm Concealed Carry Act.
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HR 38 National conceal carry reciprocity
Quiet Observer replied to THE KING's topic in Illinois Right to Keep and Carry
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Nonresident carry license need.
Quiet Observer replied to lilguy's topic in Illinois Concealed Carry Licensing Process
Since he already has a nonresident Florida permit, I think that he would not need to present additional proof of training. Here is additional information on training that might be of interest to others. Approved Training Courses To qualify for a concealed weapon license, Florida law requires you to submit proof of competency with a firearm. A copy of a Certificate of Completion or similar document from any of the following courses or classes is acceptable: Any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission or a similar agency in another state; Any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course; Any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law enforcement agency, junior college, college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school, using instructors certified by the National Rifle Association, the Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission, or the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services; Any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement; Any firearms training or safety course or class conducted by a state-certified instructor or by an instructor certified by the National Rifle Association. Training Certificate Requirements The copy of the training certificate/document must be clear and legible and must include: Your name, Your instructor's name, Your instructor's qualifications/credentials (National Rifle Association instructor, law enforcement firearms instructor, Class "K" Firearm Instructor licensed by the state of Florida, etc.) and Your instructor's license/certification number.For Active Military and Veterans Active-duty military personnel may submit copies of any of the following documents that confirm experience with a firearm gained during service: Military orders including call to active-duty letter; A statement of military service that identifies you and provides your date of entry on your current active-duty period (it must be signed by, or at the direction of, the adjutant, personnel officer or commander of your unit or higher headquarters); Former military personnel can submit a DD Form 214 reflecting honorable discharge from military service. Other Acceptable Forms of Training Documentation Documentary evidence of experience with a firearm obtained through participation in an organized shooting competition is also acceptable. Acceptable Firearms Training Documentation / Applying for a Concealed Weapon License / Concealed Weapon License / Consumer Resources / Home - Florida Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services -
HR 38 National conceal carry reciprocity
Quiet Observer replied to THE KING's topic in Illinois Right to Keep and Carry
Why would it take 60 votes? "The Senate votes on bills, resolutions, motions, amendments, nominations, and treaties in a variety of ways. If one-fifth of a quorum of senators request it, the Senate will take a roll-call vote. In a roll-call vote, each senator votes “yea” or “nay” as his or her name is called by the clerk, who records the votes on a tally sheet. In most cases a simple majority is required for a measure to pass. In the case of a tie, the vice president may cast the tie-breaking vote. In a few instances, the Constitution requires a two-thirds vote of the Senate, including: expelling a senator; overriding a presidential veto; proposing a constitutional amendment for ratification by the states; convicting an impeached official; and consenting to ratification of a treaty. Under Senate debate rules, it takes a three-fifths majority of those duly chosen and sworn to invoke cloture and end debate on a piece of legislation. Senate rules also require a two-thirds vote to invoke cloture on a measure that would amend the Senate's rules though the measure itself requires only a simple majority vote for adoption." U.S. Senate: About Voting I added bold to make it easier to find the specific sentence. -
HR 38 National conceal carry reciprocity
Quiet Observer replied to THE KING's topic in Illinois Right to Keep and Carry
Governments write constitutions. Who decides what actions are included under a right or when a right is violated? -
HR 38 National conceal carry reciprocity
Quiet Observer replied to THE KING's topic in Illinois Right to Keep and Carry
Here is part of the bill. “§ 926D. Reciprocity for the carrying of certain concealed firearms “(a) Notwithstanding any provision of the law of any State or political subdivision thereof (except as provided in subsection (b)) and subject only to the requirements of this section, a person who is not prohibited by Federal law from possessing, transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm, who is carrying a valid identification document containing a photograph of the person, and who is carrying a valid license or permit which is issued pursuant to the law of a State and which permits the person to carry a concealed firearm or is entitled to carry a concealed firearm in the State in which the person resides, may possess or carry a concealed handgun (other than a machine gun or destructive device) that has been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce, in any State that— “(1) has a statute under which residents of the State may apply for a license or permit to carry a concealed firearm; or “(2) does not prohibit the carrying of concealed firearms by residents of the State for lawful purposes. “(b) This section shall not be construed to supersede or limit the laws of any State that— “(1) permit private persons or entities to prohibit or restrict the possession of concealed firearms on their property; or “(2) prohibit or restrict the possession of firearms on any State or local government property, installation, building, or base. “(c) (1) A person who carries or possesses a concealed handgun in accordance with subsections (a) and (b) may not be arrested or otherwise detained for violation of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof related to the possession, transportation, or carrying of firearms unless there is probable cause to believe that the person is doing so in a manner not provided for by this section. Presentation of facially valid documents as specified in subsection (a) is prima facie evidence that the individual has a license or permit as required by this section. Text - H.R.38 - 119th Congress (2025-2026): Constitutional Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act | Congress.gov | Library of Congress -
Nonresident carry license need.
Quiet Observer replied to lilguy's topic in Illinois Concealed Carry Licensing Process
I assume that you will keep your home in Illinois for now. Otherwise, you lose Illinois residency and your CCL/FOID. -
Nonresident carry license need.
Quiet Observer replied to lilguy's topic in Illinois Concealed Carry Licensing Process
With so many states going constitutional, there is much less of a need to have multiple out of state licenses. If there is a possibility of a family emergency occurring in some states, you might want to consider getting Florida or other states. Otherwise, think you are fine. We do the Southwest, so I still keep a Utah license. State Name -
Carrying in both locations is prohibited by Section 65 of the FCCA. According to the Posted! they are posted. "(21) Any building, real property, or parking area under the control of a zoo or museum." Apparently, the laser ban still stands. "In the decision, Kocoras wrote, “In sum, the undisputed facts show that ‘a firearm remains an effective weapon without a [laser sight] attached’ and thus a laser sight ‘is not a weapon protected by the Second Amendment. Rather, ‘it is merely an accessory which is unnecessary to the essential operation of a firearm." Chicago’s Ban on Laser Sights Stands - Gun Tests
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Did Chicago Fire Dept get a list of carry licenses?
Quiet Observer replied to Tvandermyde's topic in Illinois Politics
What about those voters who have health issues and would have difficulty walking those longer distances? -
Auto renewal on purchase.
Quiet Observer replied to lilguy's topic in Illinois FOID Application, Renewal & Appeal Process
I will let others argue about whether the state or feds are keeping data bases on who are buying guns. They potentially have had and kept that information years ago. Notifying you of the change of your FOID expiration has no bearing on what they might or might not do with the information. -
Why is it limited to the former administration? The bump stock ban was under his first administration. He did nothing to stop it. Of course, it was challenged by a private citizen and was declared to be unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 2024. Could there be other anti-2A regulations from various administrations prior to 2021 that may still be in effect?
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Federal concealed carry reciprocity bill filed.
Quiet Observer replied to mab22's topic in National Politics
The articles in the OP are referring to a bill from the 117th Congress. The current Congress is the 119th. A Congress lasts for 2 years. The bills do not carry over to the next one. This is from the current Congress, 119th. There are 172 sponsors, H.R.38 - 119th Congress (2025-2026): To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a means by which nonresidents of a State whose residents may carry concealed firearms may also do so in the State. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress At present no text is available. Text: H.R.38 — 119th Congress (2025-2026)All Information (Except Text) As of 01/29/2025 text has not been received for H.R.38 - To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a means by which nonresidents of a State whose residents may carry concealed firearms may also do so in the State. Bills are generally sent to the Library of Congress from GPO, the Government Publishing Office, a day or two after they are introduced on the floor of the House or Senate. Delays can occur when there are a large number of bills to prepare or when a very large bill has to be printed. Text - H.R.38 - 119th Congress (2025-2026): To amend title 18, United States Code, to provide a means by which nonresidents of a State whose residents may carry concealed firearms may also do so in the State. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress