Quiet Observer

I think that there are enough exits that one could find a gas station a few miles down the road. If you need to use a state rest stop, you can always balance the need for personal safety vs. slight risk of discovery and arrest. I think that it is highly unlikely that you will need a gun for defense or be discovered and arrested. Is someone going to see you leave the gun in your car? Will it still be there when you come back?

I doubt if it makes any difference whether or not an area is designated no guns allowed. Take down all the signs or add more and give them the force of law. I doubt that it will make any difference to the potential killer. Murderers go into these areas because there a lot of victims available. They are on some vendetta or seeking a demented thrill. They know someone with gun is going to show up. That could be an employee, person in the crowd, or the police. The signs are, at least an inconvenience, or a potential danger to a carrier who chooses to comply to the silly signs.

I often wonder about reports of the nature of the one in the OP. Often they seem to start in one progun site and then get repeated on many others. It seems like few sites ever bother to confirm the information. Of course, many gun types believe it because it comes from their favorite 2A site. We all know that everyone hates us because we have guns.

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I am sure that there are plenty opinions on the left stating that the GOPs failure to vote for an assault weapons ban "may" hurt them in the fall. It is hard to debate "may". I think the bill is wrong, period!

Reminds me of "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely". It is a not a perfect parallel, but I am not voting for a king, regardless of party.

I was going to post that in my entry above but could not find it. I remember that it was on the banner on top of the page before the major software upgrade. BTW: Is it PosedApp or Posted?

A good reference is the Posted! app. It is 99cents on Google Play or the Apple App store. It lists specific spots that you cannot carry. Here is a description. Posted! - List Pro & Anti Gun Carry Locations - Apps on Google Play You can carry virtually anywhere that is not specifically named in the law or posted. You can carry in the vast majority of businesses if they are not posted. Very few are posted. Many that posted 6 years ago when CC was legalized, removed their signs. I am guessing from your few postings, that you are new to CC. I think most of us were apprehensive when we first started carrying. It felt like every cop was waiting to see the slightest hint of a gun and confront us. In general, cops accept us carrying and many are very supportive. There have very few arrests for carrying in a posted area. Usually, the management many just ask you to leave or take the gun to your car. A CC violation arrest is more likely to be part of some other crime. In spite of the apprehension on both sides when CC started, the streets are not covered in blood, nor have the police made thousands of arrests of those who mistakenly entering a prohibited area or printed ever so slightly.

So now instead of "assault weapon", "semi-automatic" becomes the evil killer. As we know that includes most modern guns, rifle or pistol. Changing AWB to SAWB?

430 ILCS 66/90 Sec. 90 Preemption addresses only handguns.

Wisconsin recognized Illinois CCL. The best overall source is handgunlaw.us . State Name (handgunlaw.us) You can enter a business where alcohol is served, but cannot consume. cx) A licensee, as defined in s. 175.60 (1) (d), or an out-of-state licensee, as defined in s. 175.60 (1) (g), if the licensee or out-of-state licensee is not consuming alcohol on the premises. Wisconsin Legislature: 941.237

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Who would give a denial? There is no proof that either UPS or Brownell's are aware of it. This seems to be a rumor spread throughout the gun community. Those are the only sites that I see if I do a search on the subject. I mentioned on page one of why I am skeptical about the letter displayed in a post above it. It is supposed to be an official business letter, but there is no addressee. An issue like this would be presented in a formal letter. A large company would receive an advance notice and a chance to change practice. There are offer points that I will not waste space repeating here.

The July 4 shooting in Highland Park, IL was certainly a tragedy, but no worse for the country than the deaths from traffic accidents, heart disease, cancer, or all the other causes. Seven people died in traffic accident in Illinois, alone. President Trump and several governors have done this during their terms also. Our flag is a special symbol for the nation, not some political banner to be moved to gain political points. Biden Orders Flags Be Flown at Half-Staff After Highland Park Shooting | National News | US News Highway patrol reports seven deaths over holiday weekend - ABC17NEWS

Why would someone editing the page add SurePost if it was not part of the original? Here is a little more information on UPS SurePost. "UPS SurePost Rates UPS SurePost® is an economy service for your non-urgent, business to consumer needs of low value. UPS makes the shipment pick-up, and the U.S. Postal Service® (USPS®) makes the final delivery, seven days a week. Sunday delivery is only in select areas with UPS Saturday operations and valid Sunday service ZIP Codes with the USPS. SurePost uses the USPS Undeliverable /Returns options (USPS Ancillary Service Endorsements) that provides shippers instructions on handling undeliverable packages". UPS SurePost Rates | UPS - United States

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So far, no one here has confirmed that UPS has stopped service for Brownells.

I am a bit skeptical. The Brownell's site still lists USP as its shipper. Basic Shipping Questions | Top Rated Supplier of Firearm Reloading Equipment, Supplies, and Tools - Colt (brownells.com) The letter shown above has no addressee. It is not whited out like the name on the bottom sentence. There is no signature or contact information, which I would expect to see on something of such legal importance. As noted above, they have not legal authority to confiscate and destroy. The proper course would be to notify proper authorities of suspected contraband, or not accept it to begin with. UPS legal would certainly know this. Major changes of policy are usually made after notifying customers. I would think that an official letter would also cite the actual law or regulation and not just use the common name, "ghost gun". Had the regulation been put into effect when this letter was supposedly sent out? “A year ago this week standing here with many of you, I instructed the attorney general to write a regulation that would rein in the proliferation of ghost guns because I was having trouble getting anything passed in the Congress,” Biden said. The rule goes into effect 120 days from the date of publication in the Federal Register." https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/biden-issues-new-federal-rule-aimed-at-privately-made-ghost-guns-without-serial-numbers The article is from April 11, 2022

I think that you should have worded it differently. Some will just read your first sentence and make the wrong assumption. Liquor stores are not automatically required to post. They may if they wish to do so. Liquor stores do not generally serve alcohol. There may be some exceptions e.g., a tasting event. Only establishments that serve alcohol and meet the greater than 50% gross receipts must post. (9) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of an establishment that serves alcohol on its premises, if more than 50% of the establishment's gross receipts within the prior 3 months is from the sale of alcohol. The owner of an establishment who knowingly fails to prohibit concealed firearms on its premises as provided in this paragraph or who knowingly makes a false statement or record to avoid the prohibition on concealed firearms under this paragraph is subject to the penalty under subsection (c-5) of Section 10-1 of the Liquor Control Act of 1934.

If you are using a real estate agent, ask them about the safes. I do not see a problem. A lot of people have safes and keep other things besides guns in them. It is no one's what you have in your safes. We had a small upright safe, and it was no problem. The guns should be just as secure during a showing as when you go shopping for the day, or even a vacation. You are an Illinois resident until you establish residency in Wisconsin e.g. driver's license, register to vote, car registration. Follow the rules for transporting your guns across state lines - unloaded, container, ammo separate, etc. They have no FOID, so possessing ammo there is no problem. If you have a CCL, the situation may be a little gray. I think the Wisconsin will recognize your Illinois CCL until you establish residency there. Then you will have to apply for Wisconsin permit. See the link below for information on Wisconsin rules. When I moved to Indiana, I did not carry for the few weeks until my Indiana permit cleared. Make your own informed decision. Again, no Wisconsin FOID, guns are find in your house. Handgunlaw.us

Right, and do not expect some merchant to provide a means. Only a fool would allow a stranger to put a memory device into the business' machine.

I think most of us would like to see Constitutional carry in all states, but one has to deal with what is in place today.

I think that you have it backward. The CCL serves as a FOID, but one can have a FOID and not have a CCL. As you and many of us point out, no one knows how merchants will deal with the ecards. It looks like many of you are having problems with hard cards with no expiration date.

I think that if your hard card is lost or stolen, it should still be reported. Someone could pose as you and use the card to purchase a gun. That would make it traceable to you, if it were used in a crime. I do not think the validity of a CCL is affected by loss of a physical FOID. It is not the same as the FOID right being suspended or revoked.

The article places a great emphasis on freedom from fear. Based on his logic the media should be limited on what they report. Much of people's fears are based on information and opinions in the media. Maybe if people like him did not keep pushing the issue there would be less fear. He is lawyer. How many people are living in fear because some lawyer helped to keep a violent person out of jail? I am not arguing against freedom of speech or due process. I am just pointing out the fallacy of his points. The idea of a free State could also be seen as protecting the country from a foreign takeover. The State remains free and independent.