Ranger

Thanks Euler! I had missed it too.

I didn't find this elsewhere. Please delete if it is. https://thereload.com/doj-urges-supreme-court-to-hear-hawaii-gun-free-zone-case/

On the bright side, maybe the ATF is / will be much more 2A friendly for a while.

Our "friends" at The Trace are thrilled and sent out Special Edition email just to let everyone know. We need more justices like Alito and Thomas.

Thanks Euler!

I don't think they should be forced to do that work and taxpayers shouldn't be out that cost. Just help them out by making all magazines legal.

Interesting.

Thanks for the updates!

Yep... One of those catch-22 situations where you need to think long and hard about the best outcome long term.

I too wish we could use rifles that held more than one shot; but I imagine it was a compromise between legislators who wanted hunters to use rifles and legislators who want all firearms banned. At this point, I'm glad we can use the rifles; but still use the savage 220 and revolvers. I would like to use revolvers during archery (more convenient); but can't think of how that could be fairly regulated so not even going to suggest it.

I'm not saying you shouldn't run. You could easily be the best candidate or Governor Illinois has had. I'm just saying it'll be challenging.

It is just the political reality. I don't really like it either. Although Trump did better than I expected in Illinois, there was a reason neither he nor Harris spent a lot of time or money campaigning here. I've told a lot of people, I like almost everything in Illinois except the politics. The Chicago politics impact on life downstate sometimes make me think about Indiana, Tennessee, or some other place.

I bet it has something to do with their website. He said they were changing it some to take off old info.

Realistically, someone wanting to run for Governor in Illinois will have an uphill battle unless they already have great name recognition, a LOT of money, a LOT of political savvy / connections, and appeal to a wide range of voters. Darren Bailey had quite a bit of name recognition due to his opposition to Pritzker. He received tens of millions of donations / in kind funding from both republicans and democrats in the primary and then from republicans in the general. He still had no chance because he predominantly appealed to the far right base. Paul Shrimpf (sp?) was probably a better candidate for the general; but had no chance of getting through the primary. Currently, in Illinois, unless you can maintain solid support from the republican base and get a good number of those independents / moderate democrats in your corner, you have almost no chance of winning the general.

I'm not sure why you never received a response to the email you submitted. I wonder if there is an issue with their website... Sergeant Thornley called me back yesterday afternoon and told me that he had already sent an email reminder out to all of his officers statewide. Director Finnie personally replied to my email this morning. I am honestly impressed with the great follow up for my email to the Director.

FWIW: My magazine from the nra with USA Nov 5th election recommendations arrived on Nov 12th. Really?

FWIW: Following is my email to her with a few redactions... November 12, 2024 Natalie Phelps Finnie Director, Illinois Department of Natural Resources One Natural Resources Way Springfield, IL 62702-1271 Director Finnie: My name is… Earlier this year, our trail cameras recorded a guy in the immediate area of where my wife hunts. We posted the pictures on Facebook and learned that he and his son attacked and left a different landowner who confronted them for dead last year. My wife is now worried about being attacked while deer hunting with her crossbow. She does have a concealed carry permit. I thought the law was changed so that someone with a concealed carry permit can carry a handgun during archery season. They obviously can’t shoot a deer with it; but could carry it for self-defense. She has a 380 she’d like to carry for safety. I had thought the law was changed to make this legal; but I asked my conservation police officer and he said it was illegal. I posted on Illinoiscarry forum and it prompted a discussion with some saying their conservation officers told them it was legal. One of the members reportedly submitted the question through the DNR site and never had a response. It appears that Public Act 102-237 (HB562 - “FOID Modernization”) amended 520 ILCS 5/2.11 (turkey hunting), 520 ILCS 5/2.26 (deer hunting), 520 ILCS 5/2.33 (prohibitions), and 520 ILCS 5/2.34 (dog trials) to make it legal for people with valid firearm concealed carry licenses to carry concealed firearms during those activities, effective January 1, 2022. Yet information on the IDNR website and inquiries with some conservation officers do not currently reflect the change in the law. This lack of alignment with the law concerns me, so I urge you to update IDNR policies (if required), as well as information on the IDNR website for the public and information provided directly to conservation officers, to avoid any misunderstandings that the discrepancy could cause. Is there any chance this could be clarified? P.S. If you are who I think you are, …. has said really good things about you. Jeff

Update: IDNR Director Natalie Phelps Finnie apparently read my email at 8:49 a.m. this morning. I received a call from Sergeant Seth Thornley ten minutes later at 8:59 a.m. He: assured me that the law was changed in 2022 to allow CCW during archery season and etc. as long as meeting other CCW requirements (such as not being in an area where CCW prohibited); and told me that they were updating the website to remove some old info from 2019; and promised that he would send a notification out to all his officers statewide reminding them of the change in law; and pointed out that he was calling from his direct number and told me to feel free to keep it and reach out to him any time I have questions. I'm well satisfied with how IDNR resolved the confusion. Couldn't have asked for anything more really. Ranger

I think I sent Director Finnie an email. Email said delivery complete but no confirmation from email server or something like that. I'll post if I get a response.

Ragsbo: Any response? Ranger

I note that the above doesn't reference while archery hunting. I suspect that administrative rules may be different during archery hunting and firearm hunting. We need to know. FWIW: If the IDNR Director is who I think, she's probably OK. Problem is likely higher up.

Well put Euler.

Quote from my CPO follows. "When archery hunting during archery season one cannot have in their possession a firearm."

I would definitely feel better if DNR website and all CPOs were clear that CCW is legal while archery deer hunting. Pragmattically, I think my state's attorney wouldn't prosecute; but would be much better not to have to worry about it. Probably wouldn't look good if wife charged with violation whether tossed out or not.

Please provide an update when you can.