Molly B. Posted October 16, 2023 at 08:30 PM Posted October 16, 2023 at 08:30 PM I submitted an inquiry asking for a link to the emergency rules or amended rules allowing for the tracking of caliber for ammo purchases. There isn't a link because emergency/amended rules have not been submitted for approval. Today ISP updated the site to only track .50 cal ammo purchases.
lilguy Posted October 16, 2023 at 08:41 PM Posted October 16, 2023 at 08:41 PM Thank you. Is that just 50 BMG ? if yes, its banned so there should be no ammo tracking.
THE KING Posted October 16, 2023 at 08:47 PM Posted October 16, 2023 at 08:47 PM On 10/16/2023 at 3:30 PM, Molly B. said: I submitted an inquiry asking for a link to the emergency rules or amended rules allowing for the tracking of caliber for ammo purchases. There isn't a link because emergency/amended rules have not been submitted for approval. Today ISP updated the site to only track .50 cal ammo purchases. NICE Thank you Now maybe we need to ask why an approval to verify the validity of a FOID card for a firearm transfer requires make, model, serial number and caliber. Sounds like more overreach to me and a registration. Doesn't this violate FOPA ??
EdDinIL Posted October 16, 2023 at 08:49 PM Posted October 16, 2023 at 08:49 PM I hope that annoyed Brendan Kelly immensely. Thank you, Molly.
mikew Posted October 16, 2023 at 10:51 PM Posted October 16, 2023 at 10:51 PM Thank you, Molly. Thank you, Illinois Carry.
springfield shooter Posted October 16, 2023 at 11:16 PM Posted October 16, 2023 at 11:16 PM On 10/16/2023 at 5:51 PM, mikew said: Thank you, Molly. Thank you, Illinois Carry. This. ^^^
davel501 Posted October 16, 2023 at 11:44 PM Posted October 16, 2023 at 11:44 PM On 10/16/2023 at 6:16 PM, springfield shooter said: This. ^^^ +1
Arch_Stanton Posted October 17, 2023 at 12:51 AM Posted October 17, 2023 at 12:51 AM Thank you Molly and Illinois Carry! Well done!
mab22 Posted October 17, 2023 at 01:06 AM Posted October 17, 2023 at 01:06 AM On 10/16/2023 at 3:30 PM, Molly B. said: I submitted an inquiry asking for a link to the emergency rules or amended rules allowing for the tracking of caliber for ammo purchases. There isn't a link because emergency/amended rules have not been submitted for approval. Today ISP updated the site to only track .50 cal ammo purchases. Now that’s some mighty fine team work! From a Facebook post, to a Guardins of liberty post, to an Illinois Carry post, To Molly calling someone’s BS. Remember boys and girls, if you see something, say something! 😁
JDW Posted October 17, 2023 at 01:27 AM Posted October 17, 2023 at 01:27 AM Thank you Molly B. I haven't had much to say lately, but I still stop by to read IC a few times a week. Hope everyone here is doing well.
2smartby1/2 Posted October 17, 2023 at 02:19 AM Posted October 17, 2023 at 02:19 AM On 10/16/2023 at 3:30 PM, Molly B. said: I submitted an inquiry asking for a link to the emergency rules or amended rules allowing for the tracking of caliber for ammo purchases. There isn't a link because emergency/amended rules have not been submitted for approval. Today ISP updated the site to only track .50 cal ammo purchases. Nice...thank you!
papa Posted October 17, 2023 at 03:31 AM Posted October 17, 2023 at 03:31 AM Thank you Molly and thanks go to Illinois carry also
soundguy Posted October 17, 2023 at 04:02 AM Posted October 17, 2023 at 04:02 AM As always... thank you Molly and Illinois Carry. This is probably a good time to encourage all members stopping by to read this to become part of the Supporting Team for a measly $25 dollars a year. You can't hardly spend $25 in a better way anywhere for anything. I'm just an old liberal who supports Illinois Carry. You can do it, too. And you should. Cheers, Tim
bmyers Posted October 17, 2023 at 11:08 AM Posted October 17, 2023 at 11:08 AM On 10/16/2023 at 11:02 PM, soundguy said: As always... thank you Molly and Illinois Carry. This is probably a good time to encourage all members stopping by to read this to become part of the Supporting Team for a measly $25 dollars a year. You can't hardly spend $25 in a better way anywhere for anything. I'm just an old liberal who supports Illinois Carry. You can do it, too. And you should. Cheers, Tim It is well worth the $25 and more for all the work this group does.
John Q Public Posted October 17, 2023 at 04:36 PM Posted October 17, 2023 at 04:36 PM Good work Val, I hope my asking the question prompted you. I knew I hadn't read that anywhere, they just make sh8t up as they go.
solareclipse2 Posted October 17, 2023 at 04:55 PM Posted October 17, 2023 at 04:55 PM Can you get them to rephrase their text? It's my understanding, and probably many of us have the same understanding, that .50 AE is not banned and I have concerns that they're either going to track that OR because of this a gun shop will not sell me Desert Eagle food. I don't want my bird to starve.
sctman800 Posted October 18, 2023 at 10:30 AM Posted October 18, 2023 at 10:30 AM On 10/17/2023 at 12:55 PM, solareclipse2 said: Can you get them to rephrase their text? It's my understanding, and probably many of us have the same understanding, that .50 AE is not banned and I have concerns that they're either going to track that OR because of this a gun shop will not sell me Desert Eagle food. I don't want my bird to starve. I have that same thought, only thinking of S&W 500 Magnum. I don't have one just curious about that caliber. I really don't have one because I now live in the free state of Indiana where I can have pretty much whatever I can afford. Jim.
sticky22 Posted October 18, 2023 at 10:29 PM Posted October 18, 2023 at 10:29 PM Thank you MollyB!! also listen at about 4 minutes, I swear they say " only ammunition that is capable of being fired from a 50 caliber center fire rifle must be registered" Im no expert but there seems to be several other 50 cal cartriges other than the bmf thing
lilguy Posted October 19, 2023 at 01:19 AM Posted October 19, 2023 at 01:19 AM If anyone buys ammunition in the near term let us know if they just look at the FOiD card or run it. I suppose a rifle can be chambered for any of the 50 caliber pistol cartridges available now. Imagine having to register a 25 grand 500 NE double rifle.
sctman800 Posted October 19, 2023 at 09:32 AM Posted October 19, 2023 at 09:32 AM I just thought of a couple other big bore rifle calibers, very rare in the states but possible. I am talking about those few people that hunt big game in Africa, 500 Nitro Express, 577 Nitro express and the 505 Gibbs. My understanding, these are pretty much limited to double rifle's and not ammo you will find at Rural King but will these be illegal also. Jim.
Molly B. Posted October 19, 2023 at 01:24 PM Author Posted October 19, 2023 at 01:24 PM Request has been submitted to ISP to rephrase site info to refer to .50 BMG as stated in the statute. ".50 caliber cartridge" means a cartridge in .50 BMG caliber,
moorecd3 Posted October 19, 2023 at 03:41 PM Posted October 19, 2023 at 03:41 PM I have yet to poke this bear at the particular place where I work, but apparently ammunition checks via the public FOID portal are now being used; prior in-person verification was just visual I have yet to see this for myself (off work several days), but is it correct that there is still a drop down box to select the specific caliber when validating the FOID card for ammunition purchases? I just heard of this last night from a co-worker and this was after initially seeing this post several days ago first. After reading this, it seems like that is no longer the case. I have been in other conversation with other dealers that leads me to believe that there was some email communication to dealers yesterday or today regarding this, so I am just not sure what is current or where it is headed.
Molly B. Posted October 19, 2023 at 03:54 PM Author Posted October 19, 2023 at 03:54 PM The only check box is if the transfer is for .50 caliber. I have requested they amend the wording to ".50 BMG caliber". If it is for said caliber, then there are more drop down boxes to select the qualifying exemption.
sticky22 Posted October 19, 2023 at 04:17 PM Posted October 19, 2023 at 04:17 PM A "feature" whether intended or not, of the "new" FOID cards without an expiration date is that ammunition vendors are forced to confirm that the card is valid and unexpired with the issuing authority. Similarly, because of the automatic 10 year extension, any entity checking the validity of your FOID knows when you purchased your last firearm, especially if it expires more than 10 years from issuance. /tinfoil
moorecd3 Posted October 19, 2023 at 04:40 PM Posted October 19, 2023 at 04:40 PM Thanks for that information. I was under the impression that there was a specific drop down to select a specific caliber, but that appears to have gone away. Thanks for the heads up!
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted October 23, 2023 at 08:13 PM Posted October 23, 2023 at 08:13 PM I purchased 200 rounds of 9mm from Gurnee Bass Pro today. Their aisle section of ammo is now blocked off from customer access and you have to tell the employee what you are looking for, and it makes it impossible to shop based on brand/price. Then they run the FOID check through their computer at the gun counter. He keyed in my FOID number and then did a lot of mouse moving and clicking before he said I was okay. Then we moved to the register for checkout.
mab22 Posted October 23, 2023 at 08:42 PM Posted October 23, 2023 at 08:42 PM On 10/23/2023 at 3:13 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said: I purchased 200 rounds of 9mm from Gurnee Bass Pro today. Their aisle section of ammo is now blocked off from customer access and you have to tell the employee what you are looking for, and it makes it impossible to shop based on brand/price. Then they run the FOID check through their computer at the gun counter. He keyed in my FOID number and then did a lot of mouse moving and clicking before he said I was okay. Then we moved to the register for checkout. Did you ask what all the moving and clicking was while he had your card?
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