NM Governor declares “gun violence emergency” and suspends concealed and open carry in Albuquerque

[springfield shooter]

On 9/12/2023 at 9:29 AM, steveTA84 said:

She even got cooked by CNN this morning. She also admitted she’s doing this (banning CCW and imposing fines on those who don’t abide) to defy the Bruen and Dobbs decision. It’s an activist stunt on her part. Removal from office isn’t enough. Imprisonment at minimum, a much harsher sentence at best. No government official should ever be able to do this again and she needs to be made an example out of. Deprivation of rights is a very serious crime 

 

 

What she calls "narrow readings" are the law of the land.

Article 6, Clause 2 Governor.

[yurimodin]

On 9/12/2023 at 2:59 PM, fxdpntc said:

The AG of NM says he won’t defend Grisham in court.

 

https://nmpoliticalreport.com/2023/09/12/ag-says-he-wont-defend-lujan-grisham-administration-in-gun-order-lawsuits/

BWAHAHAHAHAHA 

[Euler]

On September 12, 2023 at 09:29 AM, steveTA84 said:→

Pompous tyrant @GovMLG ... threatens to impose civil fines for non-compliance ...

-- Brianna Lyman (@briannalyman2) September 12, 2023

Remember that "civil fines" means that it doesn't go through the court system. It's the executive branch imposing a penalty (or taking other action) on a non-public entity (e.g., a private individual) without judicial review.

[Flynn]

On 9/12/2023 at 2:59 PM, fxdpntc said:

The AG of NM says he won’t defend Grisham in court.

 

https://nmpoliticalreport.com/2023/09/12/ag-says-he-wont-defend-lujan-grisham-administration-in-gun-order-lawsuits/

 

This is going to get more interesting, the lawsuits are suing her in both official and individual capacities, so she has to defend herself or face a default judgment against her and the state that could be millions upon millions upon millions under the stripped qualified immunity laws they just recently passed...

[springfield shooter]

On 9/12/2023 at 4:34 PM, Flynn said:

 

This is going to get more interesting, the lawsuits are suing her in both official and individual capacities, so she has to defend herself or face a default judgment against her and the state that could be millions upon millions upon millions under the stripped qualified immunity laws they just recently passed...

 

What would be really interesting is if the NM state AG sued the governor to recover any judgement against the state.

[Flynn]

A TRO was granted today, so we will see where it goes from here...

[steveTA84]

On 9/13/2023 at 4:34 PM, Flynn said:

A TRO was granted today, so we will see where it goes from here...

Governor is already prepping to ignore it/double down again (notice the language)

[Hap]

So, in response, she's going to arrest "the hundreds of violent offenders with outstanding warrants still on our streets..."? What on earth was stopping her from doing this last month, or the month before, or the month before that? Why is she just getting around to arresting these people now? What is different on September 14 from what was the case on August 14?

[mikew]

In the end will we be thanking her for helping to advance 2A rights?

 

[Yeti]

On 9/14/2023 at 11:54 AM, mikew said:

In the end will we be thanking her for helping to advance 2A rights?

 

I hope that’s the case… it could get this all down the road a little faster.  
 

A caller on a radio show recently suggested that she will be charged with violating NM’s own Public Safety Emergency Response Act, Chapter 12, Article 10.  It provides  “the state of New Mexico with the ability to manage public health emergencies in a manner that protects civil rights and the liberties of individual persons.”, which would imply that 2A rights are civil rights. Not sure if it would then be a proper 2A ruling applicable to other states if they go this path?

[BobPistol]

On 9/10/2023 at 9:18 PM, Upholder said:

 

Dihydrogen monoxide is found in abundance in the bodies of everyone who has ever died.  We clearly need to ensure that nobody comes in contact with this dangerous substance.

 

Penn & Teller did a wonderful episode of their famous show Bullsh*t about how many idiots would sign such a petition to ban it.

 

There's even a website  www.dhmo.org about Dihydrogen Monoxide.    Same point. 

[steveTA84]

lol 

[yurimodin]

On 9/14/2023 at 5:18 PM, steveTA84 said:

lol 

what a ****** her poor husband probobly has to fill out a permission request to go out fishing with his friends.

[springfield shooter]

On 9/14/2023 at 5:18 PM, steveTA84 said:

lol 

 

A lot of the country is still waiting for you to confess to your ignorance of (or more likely disregard for) the Constitution.

 

In the meantime, thanks for bringing to the forefront the problem of elected officials using "emergency powers" in a dictatorial manner. Especially as it involves abrogating clearly enumerated rights.

[ragsbo]

Still waiting for her to be held accountable for violating the peoples US Constitutional rights and over stepping her elected office authority.

[Jeffrey]

On 9/14/2023 at 5:45 PM, yurimodin said:

what a ****** her poor husband probobly has to fill out a permission request to go out fishing with his friends.

Doubt he knows how to bait a hook.

[John Q Public]

Looks like she revised the order after the TRO to include parks and playgrounds only.

[Scotty425]

Was it legal in New Mexico to carry in parks and playgrounds before the new order form the governor?

[yurimodin]

On 9/15/2023 at 4:42 PM, Scotty425 said:

Was it legal in New Mexico to carry in parks and playgrounds before the new order form the governor?

Who cares? My right to self defense doesn't end where public funding begins.

 

If anything it should be even more protected on public land.

[mab22]

On 9/15/2023 at 11:08 PM, yurimodin said:

Who cares? My right to self defense doesn't end where public funding begins.

 

If anything it should be even more protected on public land.

Public funded means where sidewalks and roads start? 
Then that’s rite outside everyone’s home. 

[crufflesmuth]

Remember: this governor was a 2022 Endorsed Candidate by Moms Demand Action. So everything - from the public health order to the no right is absolute nonsense this is all MDA. 

 

Edited September 16, 2023 at 08:41 PM by crufflesmuth

[JTHunter]

On 9/15/2023 at 9:03 AM, Jeffrey said:

Doubt he knows how to bait a hook.

 

Either that or he IS the worm on the hook.

[soundguy]

On 9/16/2023 at 3:36 PM, crufflesmuth said:

no right is absolute nonsense 

 

This is not exactly nonsense.

We may see it play out in a big 1A way in the next couple of weeks.

 

Cheers,

Tim

[ak76]

On 9/16/2023 at 3:36 PM, crufflesmuth said:

Remember: this governor was a 2022 Endorsed Candidate by Moms Demand Action. So everything - from the public health order to the no right is absolute nonsense this is all MDA. 

 

MDA and the Governor are Bloomberg's pawns.

[Bubbacs]

Shame we can't be someone's pawns.  Seems we are in a pit and always punching up at the air!  Where are these groups that say they are fighting for us?  I know my posts are ignored but everyone is talking about how we get it in the *** and no one is talking about who we have to bend over any of these people.  Seems to me the only answer we have in here anymore is jump ship and move.  So run away?

[Flynn]

On 9/16/2023 at 9:55 PM, soundguy said:

 

This is not exactly nonsense.

We may see it play out in a big 1A way in the next couple of weeks.

 

In general, a right should be nearly absolute until it directly infringes upon someone else's right and a compromise has to be established to preserve most of each party's conflicting rights and/or it's lost due to judicial adjudication, until that point a right should be nearly absolute or else it's not a right...

[GTX63]

The 2nd Amendment is absolute because it was intended to be. "Shall not be infringed" means just what it says. The government has put restrictions on the right, and they stand because we the people have allowed them to. If they "seemed" reasonable they have been allowed. That is how we arrived at this place.

By its nature, Government will always try to increase it's authority, and will continue to do so as long as it is allowed.

 

[Smallbore]

I argue a right is absolute or it is not a right. The only time an individual right may seem to infringe on an others individual right is by a proven criminal act. The victim then has a right to seek justice and not before. The accused has a right to a fair trail. No ones rights should be abridged or seen as conflicting until a criminal act has been proven. No one has the right to do harm without just cause of self-defense.

Denying an individual (every non government individual) his basic God given natural right to possess weapons before a criminal action is no different then denying free speech by ripping out a peasant child's larynx then graciously allowing him later in life to ask and pay for the privilege to get it back.

[ak76]

On 9/17/2023 at 12:51 PM, Bubbacs said:

Shame we can't be someone's pawns.  Seems we are in a pit and always punching up at the air!  Where are these groups that say they are fighting for us?  I know my posts are ignored but everyone is talking about how we get it in the *** and no one is talking about who we have to bend over any of these people.  Seems to me the only answer we have in here anymore is jump ship and move.  So run away?

The ship has been hijacked from within and slowly sinking and jump ship is the only option. When the government favors the criminals (Safe-T Act) and punishes and turns into criminal the law abiding (Protect Illinois Communities Act) there is no hope.

[mab22]

On 9/17/2023 at 12:51 PM, Bubbacs said:

Shame we can't be someone's pawns.  Seems we are in a pit and always punching up at the air!  Where are these groups that say they are fighting for us?  I know my posts are ignored but everyone is talking about how we get it in the *** and no one is talking about who we have to bend over any of these people.  Seems to me the only answer we have in here anymore is jump ship and move.  So run away?

 

Maybe more cases like what Devore is doing. Get enough people to pitch in and take them to court.

 

$200 is less then movers, and less then the sales commission to realtors for selling your house, the realtor is by far the biggest expense, the more its worth to more you scream What the hey!!! and are less inclined to provide "concessions"! Then there is the "flight tax", leaving our ****** little town, the thugs come at you for another .03% of the sales price if you don't relocate to somewhere else in the same ****** town. Again, that is way more then $200.

 

So yeah! It's cheaper for me to jump on these cases then it is to flee, AND if we WIN I get the SATISFACTION of giving it to them in the ***.

 

I think we need more of these cases, next level is to get the money back when .gov looses, makes it even cheaper.