steveTA84 Posted September 9, 2023 at 12:00 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 12:00 AM Yesterday https://www.kob.com/new-mexico/new-mexico-governor-declares-gun-violence-a-public-health-emergency/ SANTA FE, N.M. — New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham declared gun violence a public health emergency following the murder of an 11-year-old boy on his way home from an Isotopes game Wednesday night. Gov. Lujan Grisham shared the following statement: “Today, I join the family of an 11-year-old boy in mourning his violent death yesterday. And I mourn the loss of a 5-year-old girl murdered in her bed last month. These are disgusting acts of violence that have no place in our communities. As a mother and grandmother, I cannot fathom the depth of these losses, and their effects will be felt by families, friends and communities forever. I send my most sincere condolences to the loved ones of both of these children. The time for standard measures has passed. Today I am declaring gun violence a public health emergency in New Mexico. This administration has done meaningful work to pass legislation, support law enforcement and significantly increase public safety resources to curb violence. Moments ago: https://thehill.com/homenews/ap/ap-u-s-news/ap-new-mexico-governor-issues-order-to-suspend-open-and-concealed-carry-of-guns-in-albuquerque/amp/ ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (AP) — New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham on Friday issued an emergency public health order that suspends the open and permitted concealed carry of firearms in Albuquerque for 30 days in the midst of a spate of gun violence. The Democratic governor said she is expecting legal challenges but felt compelled to act in response to gun violence, including the fatal shooting of an 11-year-old boy outside a minor league baseball stadium this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted September 9, 2023 at 12:13 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 12:13 AM Wait for the fat one to do that here because of Chicago, or just because he doesn’t want to look like a weak progressive democrat Marxist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted September 9, 2023 at 01:12 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 01:12 AM 2AF and NRA, where are thou? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted September 9, 2023 at 01:18 AM Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 01:18 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted September 9, 2023 at 01:20 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 01:20 AM Trial balloon to see how it goes and how folks respond. If it goes their way, expect more of them. If they get stopped, they will try something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted September 9, 2023 at 01:21 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 01:21 AM It's just 30 days to flatten the homicide curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted September 9, 2023 at 01:51 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 01:51 AM On September 8, 2023 at 08:21 PM, spanishjames said:→It's just 30 days to flatten the homicide curve. I believe JB already set the precedent that a governor just has to re-declare an emergency every 28 days to make the "emergency" power last permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouFeelLucky Posted September 9, 2023 at 02:20 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 02:20 AM So no open carry of firearms, so no hunting allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted September 9, 2023 at 02:45 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 02:45 AM On September 8, 2023 at 09:20 PM, DoYouFeelLucky said:→So no open carry of firearms, so no hunting allowed? NM is an open carry state. "Open carry" means not concealed in public places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted September 9, 2023 at 04:25 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 04:25 AM Those who have been paying attention fully expected the "Health Emergency" angle to be invoked sooner rather than later as a new weapon to deny the right... I certainly hope no court entertains it as a law-abiding citizen carrying poses no heath threat to anyone! At least not a treat brought forth by the firearm, they still might have the sniffles or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTriple Posted September 9, 2023 at 04:38 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 04:38 AM Whenever I see the gun control movement doing stupid stuff like this, it doesn't strike me as the sort of behavior you'd expect if they were truly winning the war on guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak76 Posted September 9, 2023 at 04:56 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 04:56 AM On 9/8/2023 at 11:38 PM, MrTriple said: Whenever I see the gun control movement doing stupid stuff like this, it doesn't strike me as the sort of behavior you'd expect if they were truly winning the war on guns. Their laws still stand so they are winning. What have we won since the law passed in January? With Republicans like Roberts and Barrett don't expect relief from the Supreme Court either and they have the Illinois Supreme Court in their pocket. They are pushing the envelope to see what sticks and Democrats can't wait to do the same in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted September 9, 2023 at 05:50 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 05:50 AM This is absolutely outrageous. They've been wanting to roll back carry laws. This is their trial balloon. Expect Jabba the Gov to try it here. This is what so many people warned about. They got away with using health emergency to deny people their rights during the pandemic. Only natural they are looking to expand on that power. If there was EVER grounds for a 1983 lawsuit, this is it. She needs to be bankrupted. That is the only way they will stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted September 9, 2023 at 06:16 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 06:16 AM On 9/8/2023 at 11:56 PM, ak76 said: With Republicans like Roberts and Barrett don't expect relief from the Supreme Court either IMO the only reason the Supreme Court took Rahimi (what I consider a nuclear gun case) so soon after Bruen is to take a baseball bat to the lower courts that still refuse to figure it out after Heller/Bruen... On 9/9/2023 at 12:50 AM, Dumak_from_arfcom said: If there was EVER grounds for a 1983 lawsuit, this is it. She needs to be bankrupted. That is the only way they will stop. I agree, but as I have said before, even though the 1983 statute was put in place for this very reason, the courts almost always and universally refuse to allow them to proceed against elected officials... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted September 9, 2023 at 09:18 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 09:18 AM This emergency powers things is a sweet deal isn't it? When you can't convince the citizens you know what is best for them, when the legislative process isn't giving you your way, just do a work around. Sort of like when they started going to court to have judges take the place of congress. Two drive by shootings and the Governor says Joe and Sally Public cannot carry their firearms anymore. So the city DA and the County Sheriff don't agree with the Governor, but they haven't said they will refuse the order, cause orders is orders, I guess. Technically I believe the State Police would be enforcing this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted September 9, 2023 at 10:38 AM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 10:38 AM On 9/9/2023 at 4:18 AM, GTX63 said: Technically I believe the State Police would be enforcing this one. One article I read said that only the state police would be enforcing this, with the city/county police proclaiming they are going to focus on actual crimes... What people should be terrified of is that if they are allowed to suspend the 2nd for health reasons then rights are no longer rights and any right can all be suspended by declaration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted September 9, 2023 at 12:13 PM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 12:13 PM The first arrest for Charlie Q Public walking down the street, legally armed and unaware of any "emergency order" should be quickly followed by a lawsuit. And when an elected politician does something so blatantly against a citizens rights, even proclaiming their sworn duty isn't absolute, they should be held personally responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted September 9, 2023 at 01:51 PM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 01:51 PM On 9/9/2023 at 5:38 AM, Flynn said: One article I read said that only the state police would be enforcing this, with the city/county police proclaiming they are going to focus on actual crimes... What people should be terrified of is that if they are allowed to suspend the 2nd for health reasons then rights are no longer rights and any right can all be suspended by declaration... We need to understand that there are those of the "political class" that would like precisely that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hap Posted September 9, 2023 at 02:03 PM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 02:03 PM We are moving from government by executive order to government by emergency declaration. With EOs there are limits to the power grab. With emergencies, much less so. Hence the language shift from "climate change" to "climate crisis" to "climate emergency" - it's all about laying the political groundwork for future emergency declarations and the attendant suspension of civil liberties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upholder Posted September 9, 2023 at 02:36 PM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 02:36 PM The fun bit is that New Mexico eliminated Qualified Immunity for their police officers recently. So any officer arresting someone for legally carrying is very likely to be personally liable for any civil lawsuit arising from that arrest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted September 9, 2023 at 02:59 PM Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 02:59 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted September 9, 2023 at 03:02 PM Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 03:02 PM On 9/9/2023 at 9:36 AM, Upholder said: The fun bit is that New Mexico eliminated Qualified Immunity for their police officers recently. So any officer arresting someone for legally carrying is very likely to be personally liable for any civil lawsuit arising from that arrest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted September 9, 2023 at 04:05 PM Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 04:05 PM Gun control mouthpieces have shown their cards and are cheering this on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted September 9, 2023 at 04:15 PM Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 04:15 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted September 9, 2023 at 04:16 PM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 04:16 PM On 9/8/2023 at 9:20 PM, DoYouFeelLucky said: So no open carry of firearms, so no hunting allowed? The silly edict applies to the city of Albuquerque, not the whole state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted September 9, 2023 at 05:01 PM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 05:01 PM On 9/9/2023 at 11:16 AM, Quiet Observer said: The silly edict applies to the city of Albuquerque, not the whole state. One small step for now. Take out larger bites later. Then move to take the entire state. And all the while they already know that the Pro Gun groups are NOT going to spend money on this stuff anymore. As an example most of us here will be dead and gone by the time they get around to solving the current lawsuits in Illinois! Soros doesn't need a GoFundMe page or have a raffle to raise funds. Our deep pockets have zippers at the tops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starwatcher Posted September 9, 2023 at 05:23 PM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 05:23 PM COVID restrictions and shutdowns gave politicians a play book on how to suspend rights. It's a shame the majority of the nation just went along with those extraordinary emergency powers politicians granted themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouFeelLucky Posted September 9, 2023 at 05:52 PM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 05:52 PM I guess they are ignoring the emergency powers granted to the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted September 9, 2023 at 08:41 PM Author Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 08:41 PM She’s being canceled. She went too far too fast and the result is it will pump the breaks on gun control for a bit. Her own side is throwing her to the curb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted September 9, 2023 at 08:58 PM Share Posted September 9, 2023 at 08:58 PM (edited) When these individuals declare that no Amendment to the Constitution is absolute (or in this case, the governor says that her oath isn't absolute....which in itself is an incredibly stupid statement), I want to ask them how they feel about the 13th. Legal challenges are apparently in the works. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/opponents-prepping-court-challenges-impeachment-after-governor-michelle-lujan-grisham-imposes-emergency-carry-ban/ Edited September 9, 2023 at 09:51 PM by springfield shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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