Smallbore

Just had a client receive his combined card from renewing last September. No expiration had him concerned. I will keep my old ccl card with the expiration date on it. I can look at it and do the math for future date. May keep the foid too to help keep track of 10 year intervals. My ccl renews in 2024, foid will then be in 2029. Nice if I still know my name then.

What confuses me and maybe shouldn't is the free auto renew with prints on file. To me this means still $10 every 10 years at time of ccl renewal w/o prints.

No argument from me.

I am not clear about the transition period. I interpret the new law to extend the foid expiration date out to your ccl expiration date. At renewal of ccl we pay the foid $10.00 fee on top of the $150.00 ccl fee. The renewed card will be combined foid and ccl. The state not putting an expiration date on a foid card whose holder does not possess a ccl will likely put that individual in jeopardy due to him forgetting the expiration date. Am I wrong on this? I too am having trouble with autocorrect changing foid and ccl. I proof and correct to then find autocorrect undid my corrections. Not sure how this will post.

The lawyers are doing all the work. I have no problem with them getting a big chunk of change.

This begs an off topic question. Which is the worst state: Ilinois or NY. Not having been in NY state I vote Illinois.

One of my reasons for not using a laser is that in low light it provides a nice target for the bad guy. It can allow the bad guy to find you first. Also I do not trust batteries. (Also a mechanical switch that "Murphy" can play with.) Just a personal choice.

In a real life shooting at a local mall I would rather the police found me with a gun then my attacker finding me without. A personal chose.

Since the physical card will not have an expiration date perhaps the digital version will.

At close range a gun may not be the best chose unless used as a bludgeon. At my age I can have a cane.

Only thing that forces me to Chicago is their high quality medical care.

As I interpret re-world outcomes one will (may) have to get 12 people to agree with you. The cost in time, court expense and worry may be much greater than just letting the police and insurance deal with it. Being smart can be wiser than being right.

Legislatures too lazy or stupid to up date? "shooting competitions at the 2016 Olympic and Paralympic Games and sanctioned test events leading up to the 2016 Olympic and Paralympic Games"

Are there witnesses? Would it not be easy to blame a two year old for the action of an adult?

Kentucky taking the lead is probably due to all the new residents from Illinois.

A business that I would be concerned about is one that sell alcoholic beverages who are mandated by statute. The statute also mandates a penalty. I believe it is a travesty of justice if this statute prevented armed security on the property. I am interested in others opinions on this.

Just helped a lady apply on line to renew a 10 year old card. When she created for the first time a log in with password the software stopped, directing her to call in to be able to use her new log in info. What is with the state police?

I resenting looked for info on the Fed judges ruling in Cook County Preserve. I checked the right topic but did not scroll down far enough to find what I was looking for. At the top was sticky older dated stuff as normal. For the back room I am used to scrolling way down to find current post. Do new people scroll down or see old dates thinking the forum is inactive. I admit thinking scrolling so much to find current post seems odd.

Thank you for the redirect.

So the judge ruled it unconstitutional but allowing it?

I have watching this forum to have the below confirmed. The ruling posted as last Monday seeing the below a couple days layer. IL: Gun Ban In Forest Preserve Is Unconstitutional, Judge Rules Submitted by: Mark A. Taff Website: http://www.marktaff.com There are no comments on this story Post Comments | Read Comments A state law that bans the concealed carry of firearms in the Cook County Forest Preserve District is unconstitutionally broad, according to a federal judge. U.S. District Judge Robert Dow issued a ruling Monday that found a section of the Illinois Firearm Concealed Carry Act violates the Second Amendment by forbidding people with concealed carry licenses, or CCLs, from carrying guns anywhere in the 70,000-acre forest preserve.

Saddly this is the result of the state police thinking they needed to tighten security. If Molly can not help we are sending people to our locsl state rep office. The girls in the office have a contact at the state police. I do not know if all reps are helping their constituents.

Sounds more like a restriction American gun owners.

Yes, it is up and running foid renewal people into the ground. We now have three clients this week who tried to renew their foid cards. They had forgotten their log in info. Tried several times using what they thought was might be right. System locked them out requiring a call in. We all know how futile that is. They came to my wife asking for help. Nothing she can do now. She could have gotten in if they had come to her first. Typical government that locks out people with no means provided to unlock them. The calls gets a two hour menu with many multiple choices. This morning my wife suffered through a long menu then waiting on line for 30 minutes just to have system drop the call. This is the government that so many people trust to protect them from crime and sickness.