Molly B. Posted January 27, 2023 at 01:05 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 01:05 AM https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/breaking-illinois-state-police-look-to-consolidate-federal-gun-ban-challenges/article_902b0968-9daa-11ed-8adf-577e5b513413.html Quote (The Center Square) – Illinois State Police are looking to consolidate several federal cases challenging Illinois' gun ban into one. The Crawford County state-level case filed earlier this month was the first case to be filed in state court after Gov. J.B. Pritzker enacted the ban on more than 170 semi-automatic guns and magazines over a certain capacity. The measure also requires gun owners to register the banned guns they own with Illinois State Police no later than Jan. 1, 2024. Langley et al v. Kelly et al. alleges the law violates the Second, Fifth and 14th amendments to the U.S. Constitution. That’s the right to keep and bear arms, the right to not incriminate yourself which plaintiffs attorney says is done by requiring registration of guns the government defines as banned “assault weapons,” and the right to equal protection under the law. Since the Crawford County case was filed, there have been two other state-level cases filed and at least three other federal cases filed challenging the ban. Earlier this week, the Crawford County state-level case was moved from state court to the Illinois southern district federal court. The case is now in the hands of Chief Judge Nancy Rosentengel of the U.S. Southern District of Illinois, an appointee of former President Barack Obama. Thursday, Illinois State Police motioned to consolidate Langley et al v. Kelly et al. with three other cases filed in federal court: Illinois State Rifle Association's case Harrel, et al. v. Raoul, et al.; Illinois Gun Rights Alliance’s Federal Firearms Licensees of Illinois, et al. v. Pritzker, et al; and the National Shooting Sports Foundation’s Barnett, et al. v. Raoul, et al. The ISP motion says similar cases are typically combined into lower-numbered cases, which ISP says is the Langley case that was filed Jan. 1, 2023. "Consolidating the cases will prevent unnecessary duplication of litigation in four different cases, promoting judicial economy. And as each case is at the initial stages of litigation, no party will be prejudiced by the consolidation," ISP's motion says. . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 27, 2023 at 01:51 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 01:51 AM I see judge appointed by Obama that's why. Are they sure no party would be prejudiced, too cute by half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:17 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:17 AM Bad idea all around, Brandon Kelly is hoping to get all cases dismissed or knocked down in one move by an Odumbo stooge judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:27 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:27 AM On 1/26/2023 at 8:17 PM, G214me said: Bad idea all around, Brandon Kelly is hoping to get all cases dismissed or knocked down in one move by an Odumbo stooge judge. If that happens, you can thank Democrat voters 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:29 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:29 AM On 1/26/2023 at 8:17 PM, G214me said: Bad idea all around, Brandon Kelly is hoping to get all cases dismissed or knocked down in one move by an Odumbo stooge judge. If that's the case, they can hope all they want. This isn't going away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:44 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:44 AM Even if the new district court judge denies a TRO or preliminary injunction, even those can be appealed to CA7 before the district court case is resolved. It's probably not too wise to paint yourself into a corner, hoping for an injunction. There could be some pain before this whole thing is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:45 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:45 AM This move along with the strange recusals and reassignments is to deny injunctions. I haven't been able to confirm, but in the case of a recusal, who decides which judge gets the case? Is it randomly assigned again, or does the Chief assign it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt B Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:01 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:01 AM On 1/26/2023 at 8:44 PM, Euler said: Even if the new district court judge denies a TRO or preliminary injunction, even those can be appealed to CA7 before the district court case is resolved. It's probably not too wise to paint yourself into a corner, hoping for an injunction. There could be some pain before this whole thing is over. Yeah I’m annoyed and frustrated by what happened today but.. let’s be real. This is going up on appeal regardless of the district court outcome. We will get the opportunity for a broader panel ruling on this. And hey who knows.. some liberal judges have been faithfully applying Bruen. One can hope for that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:07 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:07 AM Different cases with different merits. Since when do they care about judicial economy or saving taxpayers money, if they cared they wouldn't have created this bureaucratic monstrosity on false premises and are attempting to create a police state by ignoring Constitutional rights and judicial authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G214me Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:41 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:41 AM Pigster lies into the microphone with his horse**** about the bill being well planned and constitutional and says it will pass court scrutiny while his stooge Brandon Kelly tries to pull stunts like this behind the scenes. They both know this is garbage and will fail in the end. I think Pigster honestly thought he could pull a fast one and the zombie majority in this state would clop along like the cattle they are. He so full of himself and thinks he's better and smarter than everyone else. Half the fun of our upcoming win(s) will be watching him look like a fool in front of everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 27, 2023 at 04:35 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 04:35 AM On 1/26/2023 at 9:41 PM, G214me said: Pigster lies into the microphone with his horse**** about the bill being well planned and constitutional and says it will pass court scrutiny while his stooge Brandon Kelly tries to pull stunts like this behind the scenes. They both know this is garbage and will fail in the end. I think Pigster honestly thought he could pull a fast one and the zombie majority in this state would clop along like the cattle they are. He so full of himself and thinks he's better and smarter than everyone else. Half the fun of our upcoming win(s) will be watching him look like a fool in front of everyone. Don't you know Pigster is a Constitutional lawyer too. Doubt that pathological liar has even read it and shows complete disregard for the Constitution and people's rights. He is a hypocrite and wants people defenseless and under his thumb while he has military weapons and museums and builds private shooting ranges and sets the criminals free and calls our rifles which are made for civilians weapons of mass destruction and machine guns but lets the criminals buy machine guns on Google (switches). Typical sociopath, do as I say not as I do. I hope you're right, he thinks he can rig everything and always get his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted January 27, 2023 at 05:32 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 05:32 AM "Consolidating the cases will prevent unnecessary duplication of litigation in four different cases, promoting judicial economy. And as each case is at the initial stages of litigation, no party will be prejudiced by the consolidation," Conveniently leaving out the fact that Obama judges have zero respect for the Constitution or a SCOTUS not controlled by the left, and are essentially political activists masquerading as "judges." Funny how they delighted in throwing Roe vs. Wade in your face constantly, though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357 Posted January 27, 2023 at 05:59 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 05:59 AM Not exaggerating, everything I wrote is true. Just googled switches again, strangely the results have been moved to page two of google from the first page previously. The state of Illinois used to threaten retailers not to ship ammunition to Chicago to law abiding people for lawful purposes, how come switches are still being allowed to be sold openly for $150? More proof that it doesn't have anything to do with safety but advances an agenda. Rifles are almost never used to commit crimes and according to statistics only 455 people a year in the whole country are killed by rifles, less than hands and feet so not an epidemic which is propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 27, 2023 at 06:20 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 06:20 AM Keep filing new cases with new plantiffs, but also add a complaint against another IL gun law like FOID or CCL making it a distinct case with distinct claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted January 27, 2023 at 11:53 AM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 11:53 AM So when you file against the state the defendants get to pick a friendly judge? Now there’s a rigged system if I’ve ever seen one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted January 27, 2023 at 12:40 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 12:40 PM My guess, is none of these moves take the various legal teams by surprise. Just listening to Todd in his videos and reading articles, I would say that this was not unexpected move by the State and that the pro-2nd teams are prepared for the long haul even though us commoners would like to have seen this done and over with last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave D Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:29 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:29 PM On 1/27/2023 at 5:53 AM, lilguy said: So when you file against the state the defendants get to pick a friendly judge? Now there’s a rigged system if I’ve ever seen one. Yes, the courts wont save us forever.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScopeEye Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:41 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:41 PM Corruption runs deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:48 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 02:48 PM On 1/27/2023 at 8:41 AM, ScopeEye said: Corruption runs deep you misspelled communism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yettiblood Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:20 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:20 PM The anti American, socialist , bleeding heart hypocrites know exactly which swashbuckling shenanigans to use, and which cronies to pay, to make this drift through our slow judicial swamp for 10-15 years. I hate to be so negative but I see this all taking a very long time. Hopefully I’m wrong. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:24 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:24 PM On 1/26/2023 at 9:01 PM, Matt B said: Yeah I’m annoyed and frustrated by what happened today but.. let’s be real. This is going up on appeal regardless of the district court outcome. We will get the opportunity for a broader panel ruling on this. And hey who knows.. some liberal judges have been faithfully applying Bruen. One can hope for that here. Yep, that’s true. Liberal judges, the ones that are truly liberal (you know, the true meaning of “liberal”, which is enhancing the rights we have), are not the problem. Wacko statist judges that are oppressive and toe-the-line with the DNC are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:46 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:46 PM On 1/27/2023 at 8:48 AM, yurimodin said: you misspelled communism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felixd Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:59 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 03:59 PM I hate showing how naive I am, but does ISP have the ability to request anything in this matter? I would have presumed that AG represents the state in legal matters and not the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted January 27, 2023 at 04:52 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 04:52 PM On 1/27/2023 at 9:46 AM, bmyers said: Joseph McCarthy was right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warped Posted January 27, 2023 at 05:14 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 05:14 PM Joseph McCarthy was a drunken joke ! Also a Democrat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 27, 2023 at 05:30 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 05:30 PM The biggest reason there were separate lawsuits was the Federal limit on briefing length. I see this as a good thing because they get everything in and they are now working from the same page so somebody like the ISRA doesn't go and screw everything up. I'm sure the dems are hoping for infighting but if that can be avoided the dems will lose badly. They are basically choosing to assemble the Avengers and fight them all at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozencpu Posted January 27, 2023 at 06:28 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 06:28 PM Just a dumpster fire that is patiently waiting for some gasoline to be added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDW Posted January 27, 2023 at 07:41 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 07:41 PM On 1/27/2023 at 11:30 AM, davel501 said: The biggest reason there were separate lawsuits was the Federal limit on briefing length. I see this as a good thing because they get everything in and they are now working from the same page so somebody like the ISRA doesn't go and screw everything up. I'm sure the dems are hoping for infighting but if that can be avoided the dems will lose badly. They are basically choosing to assemble the Avengers and fight them all at once. I hope your thinking is correct. Everything coming from Pritzger and the Elites lately is enough to make me vomit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted January 27, 2023 at 10:06 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 10:06 PM On 1/27/2023 at 10:59 AM, Felixd said: I hate showing how naive I am, but does ISP have the ability to request anything in this matter? I would have presumed that AG represents the state in legal matters and not the police. I'm not sure the point of the question, but both the AG and the ISP are sued because they enforce the law that plaintiffs seek to enjoin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted January 27, 2023 at 11:27 PM Share Posted January 27, 2023 at 11:27 PM On 1/27/2023 at 6:20 PM, imagineallthekarma said: When can we expect to find out if the judge is going to consolidate? Judges set their own schedules. There are also motions for temporary restraining orders and preliminary injunctions in the mix. It depends on priorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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