InterestedBystander Posted February 6, 2019 at 02:38 AM Posted February 6, 2019 at 02:38 AM full story at link https://www.ilnews.org/news/state_politics/facing-costly-new-regulations-some-gun-shops-close/article_93a46f46-28b3-11e9-a51d-2f1804ce74de.html ...Several gun dealers in Central and Southern Illinois are closing their businesses rather than pay what theyre saying is thousands of dollars in costs to comply with a law enacted last month. When he signed the bill into law last month, Gov. J.B. Pritzker said the Gun Dealer Licensing Act was about stopping straw buyers. The reason for it is to deter straw purchases so that we can prevent someone from buying a gun for someone else who is not legally allowed to own a gun, he said at the signing ceremony in Chicago. For Jim Barnard, 69, couldnt see a way to afford the cost of compliance with the new law. After more than 4 decades of operation, the owner of Fishmans Sporting Goods in Girard had to make a tough decision. Im just going to retire, I guess, he said. I hope that I can live off of what Ive saved over the years. He made the decision to close his business in late January. Mick Moore made the same decision for Walnut Creek Shooters Supply in Brownstown after seeing not only the cost of the license and the camera system. but also the uncertainty additional regulations and more fees. Its just not worth it, he said. Ive fought it and fought it but Im just not up to the fight much longer...
Flynn Posted February 6, 2019 at 02:45 AM Posted February 6, 2019 at 02:45 AM Time for them to become plaintiffs in second amendment civil rights violations.
ragsbo Posted February 6, 2019 at 02:49 AM Posted February 6, 2019 at 02:49 AM This is exactly what the intent of the law was, to drive dealers out of business so folks have no were to buy them
MagSlap Posted February 6, 2019 at 02:54 AM Posted February 6, 2019 at 02:54 AM American Businessmen :"For Jim Barnard, 69, couldnt see a way to afford the cost of compliance with the new law. After more than 4 decades of operation, the owner of Fishmans Sporting Goods in Girard had to make a tough decision." "Mick Moore made the same decision for Walnut Creek Shooters Supply in Brownstown after seeing not only the cost of the license and the camera system. but also the uncertainty additional regulations and more fees." Democrats:"Mission Accomplished"
transplant Posted February 6, 2019 at 03:49 AM Posted February 6, 2019 at 03:49 AM Time for them to become plaintiffs in second amendment civil rights violations. It's inevitable.
transplant Posted February 6, 2019 at 03:51 AM Posted February 6, 2019 at 03:51 AM Large companies that have multiple stores across the state are only required to pay the new annual fee for 27 locations, which would put the corporations at the $40,000 cap, the rest essentially amounting to what Vandermyde called a tax break. So the big box stores - whose management teams are squishier and easier to manipulate - are kept around, and the small stores, whose owners tend to take a firmer stand, are pushed out of business.
Weed Posted February 6, 2019 at 04:18 AM Posted February 6, 2019 at 04:18 AM There are two in my area that I know of that are closing.
BobPistol Posted February 6, 2019 at 12:24 PM Posted February 6, 2019 at 12:24 PM When he signed the bill into law last month, Gov. J.B. Pritzker said the Gun Dealer Licensing Act was about stopping straw buyers. That's BS. If he wanted to stop straw buyers, he would have signed a bill that dealt with straw buyers, such as a minimum 20 year sentence for straw sellers/buyers. That didn't happen.His intention was to put gun shops out of business plain and simple.
G214me Posted February 6, 2019 at 12:55 PM Posted February 6, 2019 at 12:55 PM When he signed the bill into law last month, Gov. J.B. Pritzker said the Gun Dealer Licensing Act was about stopping straw buyers. That's BS. If he wanted to stop straw buyers, he would have signed a bill that dealt with straw buyers, such as a minimum 20 year sentence for straw sellers/buyers. That didn't happen.His intention was to put gun shops out of business plain and simple. +1
G214me Posted February 6, 2019 at 12:57 PM Posted February 6, 2019 at 12:57 PM My local small shop isn't sure what he's going to do yet, he still trying to figure this mess out as far as alarms and cameras and such.
jkdkaliman101 Posted February 6, 2019 at 01:18 PM Posted February 6, 2019 at 01:18 PM Local store in my neck of the woods has been there for 56 years. Said last week they most likely are closing shop.
357 Posted February 6, 2019 at 04:30 PM Posted February 6, 2019 at 04:30 PM When he signed the bill into law last month, Gov. J.B. Pritzker said the Gun Dealer Licensing Act was about stopping straw buyers. That's BS. If he wanted to stop straw buyers, he would have signed a bill that dealt with straw buyers, such as a minimum 20 year sentence for straw sellers/buyers. That didn't happen. His intention was to put gun shops out of business plain and simple.Dealers follow the law and they can't show one dealer who hasn't followed the law. They give straw purchasers probation. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailyherald.com/amp-article/20170414/news/170419171/
evilbrownrifle Posted February 6, 2019 at 05:07 PM Posted February 6, 2019 at 05:07 PM Lost my local transfer dealer. Found another one though.
IH8IL Posted February 6, 2019 at 05:43 PM Posted February 6, 2019 at 05:43 PM Large companies that have multiple stores across the state are only required to pay the new annual fee for 27 locations, which would put the corporations at the $40,000 cap, the rest essentially amounting to what Vandermyde called a tax break.So the big box stores - whose management teams are squishier and easier to manipulate - are kept around, and the small stores, whose owners tend to take a firmer stand, are pushed out of business.Pretty much. Big stores, I’m pretty sure will send a copy of the 4473 straight to the state. They are already automated with computers and do the background online.
thedrickster Posted February 6, 2019 at 06:56 PM Posted February 6, 2019 at 06:56 PM Local store in my neck of the woods has been there for 56 years. Said last week they most likely are closing shop. That's a feature not a bug.
Tvandermyde Posted February 6, 2019 at 07:00 PM Posted February 6, 2019 at 07:00 PM if you know of stores or shops closing please forward their info to me
Xwing Posted February 6, 2019 at 09:26 PM Posted February 6, 2019 at 09:26 PM This is Pritzker and the other gun-grabbers goals. Their only purpose is to make it more expensive and more difficult to legally buy a firearm.
Lou Posted February 6, 2019 at 09:50 PM Posted February 6, 2019 at 09:50 PM This is Pritzker and the other gun-grabbers goals. Their only purpose is to make it more expensive and more difficult to legally buy a firearm. Incremental banning. AKA death by 1000 cuts.
JTHunter Posted February 7, 2019 at 03:49 AM Posted February 7, 2019 at 03:49 AM Does anybody know about two stores in Pinkneyville, Mann's and Hick's?
Raw Power Posted February 7, 2019 at 04:02 PM Posted February 7, 2019 at 04:02 PM Time for them to become plaintiffs in second amendment civil rights violations.It's inevitable. And I hope that we will step up and help donate to their legal funds when the time comes.
GWBH Posted February 8, 2019 at 09:24 PM Posted February 8, 2019 at 09:24 PM Todd,The Ridge Gun Shop - Herod Il will be closing his doors because of the gun dealer licensing act.If you need the owner's name and contact info let me know... Tried to send to you in a PM but I guess your box is full.
lee n. field Posted February 8, 2019 at 10:24 PM Posted February 8, 2019 at 10:24 PM The guy I've deal with mostly, for the last 25 years (him and his Dad), I suspect will bail. Not happy about it.
Flynn Posted February 8, 2019 at 10:49 PM Posted February 8, 2019 at 10:49 PM Todd,The Ridge Gun Shop - Herod Il will be closing his doors because of the gun dealer licensing act.If you need the owner's name and contact info let me know... Tried to send to you in a PM but I guess your box is full. Click on Todd's profile his email is there and then email him, from what I have read he doesn't do private messaging on here...
GWBH Posted February 9, 2019 at 01:16 AM Posted February 9, 2019 at 01:16 AM Todd,The Ridge Gun Shop - Herod Il will be closing his doors because of the gun dealer licensing act.If you need the owner's name and contact info let me know... Tried to send to you in a PM but I guess your box is full. Click on Todd's profile his email is there and then email him, from what I have read he doesn't do private messaging on here... Ok - thanks my man!!
tkroenlein Posted February 9, 2019 at 03:14 AM Posted February 9, 2019 at 03:14 AM if you know of stores or shops closing please forward their info to meSent to your email @aol address.
Bird76Mojo Posted February 9, 2019 at 07:15 AM Posted February 9, 2019 at 07:15 AM I relayed this info about Todd wanting names of FFL's closing to a buddy of mine that is thinking of closing. He said he'd be contacting FFL-IL and asking for Todd.
ScottFM Posted February 11, 2019 at 07:21 PM Posted February 11, 2019 at 07:21 PM Well there is always the big box stores like Dick's!
steveTA84 Posted February 11, 2019 at 07:40 PM Posted February 11, 2019 at 07:40 PM Well there is always the big box stores like Dick's! Dick’s can go and........oh nevermind
Hatchet Posted February 11, 2019 at 07:46 PM Posted February 11, 2019 at 07:46 PM · Hidden by Lou, February 11, 2019 at 07:55 PM - No reason given Hidden by Lou, February 11, 2019 at 07:55 PM - No reason given Well there is always the big box stores like Dick's! Dick’s can go and........oh nevermind beat it? Ba-Dum-Tis
ScottFM Posted February 12, 2019 at 12:00 AM Posted February 12, 2019 at 12:00 AM Well there is always the big box stores like Dick's! Dick’s can go and........oh nevermind I hear ya. Don't ever forget that the carve outs in this bill for big box stores like Dick's was what Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms wanted because with a smaller market they could keep their prices right where they could maximize revenue margins. If they had to sell to lots of little guys it would be a PITA for them and they would have to worry about all the different market channels under selling each other. Like TYM said they are either traitors or morons. Either way, they certainly do not deserve our business
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