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The Ridge Gun Shop Herod, IL Closed permanently. Shawnee Gun Service Elizabethtown, IL Closed Permanently.

That is correct. The two databases do "co-operate" somewhat with each other and you cannot change name / address on one "permit" without changing the name / address on the other.

That's what I did...

I feel - well... dunno!! "Special"? The ISP likes me!! Phil was a good friend of mine. He had a bad year on his second tour. He was on the LRRP team RT Georgia - too many casualties and too many missions. I miss him too.

OK - I have to eat some crow... Got my revised FOID card today (change of address) and it only took 23 days... The new card number has the same 8 digit number as my old card, but now has 14 preceding that number. In other words it has the same number now that my CCL card has. I ran a private transfer including the 14******** and it showed approved.

Just check the status of my FOID / CCL address change. The FOID states - ACTIVE so should be getting my new card in 2 to 3 years... CCL - Still Under Review - I'd guess for local LE review and time to file an opposition.

I changed my address as well. After I log into the ISP, it shows my new address at the top left of the page and the FOID (and CCL) are "Under Review" If your FOID has not expired, you can still buy a firearm / ammunition - but make sure you update your address with the DMV - Driver's license and all your registrations. No new card- yet, but when I run a private transfer it tells me I'm "APPROVED" I believe they are supposed to send you a new FOID (and CCL - if that applies) but it's probably going to take a while. If you call back, good luck getting in touch with a human being at that place!

Gamma, I went ahead and researched some other sites and you are correct. Was just getting ready to post that. Thanks for the clarification and information!!!

There's some confusing reciprocity with Alabama on the USCCA and USA Carry websites as far as if they will honor only an Illinois permit. USCCA states Alabama will NOT honor only an Illinois CCW. (Nor honor a non-resident permit from Florida) USA Carry states Alabama WILL honor an Illinois permit. Arkansas is a toss up!! FANTASTIC!! WE NEED NATIONAL RECIPROCITY!!!!

Don't know what to tell you other than call them - and that's always lots of fun...

Thanks for all the work you put into this! Much appreciated and very interesting!!

Go get 'em Molly!! (Mr. Molly too!)

Mine came today - EDIT - Hardin CO

Maybe the CCW bill should have a provision that states you can start carrying if a processed permit is not in your possession within 30 days after application. You carry 30 days after the date submitted via an insured letter receipt from the USPS. And this would be better than abolishing the FOID... how? Didn't say it would be better... The context of the discussion I was speaking to was about the ISP intentionally dragging it's feet getting CCW permits out to applicants who've met the required elements to receive the permit.

Maybe the CCW bill should have a provision that states you can start carrying if a processed permit is not in your possession within 30 days after application. You carry 30 days after the date submitted via an insured letter receipt from the USPS.

We are a bunch of nice guys!! A little rough around the edges, but for the most part harmless http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg490/pmcman2/ArmedRednecks.jpg

They got caught wearing their underoos. David - they need a new "proof reader"...

uhhhhh - conceptual relativity??? I say - theory! (Maybe not! I'm so confused these days!) Sorry...rambling again...

I saw it. It's the same maneuver they have used at every juncture in the case at every opportunity. Their last request for more time was basically denied. This is on the second page of the petition: 3. Moreover, given the stay of the mandate currently in place, the requested extension of time would not delay the effective date of the panel’s judgment. If a rehearing petition were filed and denied, the mandate still would issue 180 days after the December 11, 2012 filing date of the Court’s opinion, regardless of whether the Court allows this request. I would love to get your take on this Molly but my opinion is that Lisa is waiting to see if the Conn. Tragedy will somehow sway members of the 7th into ruling in her favor. Its a hail mary play no doubt but its probably her best chance for a positive ruling at this point. They'd have to express a "legal" ground for any deviation from the previous ruling. Law is Law. Lady Justice is blindfolded and emotional sympathy does not warrant a reversal - Here's an example: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0 If anyone deserved "emotional consideration, it was this woman!

That is EXACTLY right! Indiana verbiage - "License to Carry a Handgun"

Good Lord what kind of a sham is he attempting to put on.. "Fundamental legal principles"?? What the heck is he talking about? I thought the Bill of Rights kinda covered that?? "Make laws to protect themselves" - Uhhhhhhh - that's what this is about - what a boneheaded statement. What specific "conditions" related to public safety are only relevant to Illinois???

Well stated GF - you beat me to the punch. (I love the way you think!) Blackstone's description of the right of Englishmen to "bear and carry" arms because of a fundamental right of self-preservation against violence is key. Additionally, the base of American law, at the time of the writing of the Constitution / Bill of Rights was English law of the period. The 2A follows Blackstone's writing and is why it is in the Bill or Rights. The ruling of the 7th court is sound and is in line with the Heller / McDonald decisions. I'm far from a legal scholar but with the numerous references to past SCOTUS decisions that the 7th used in writing their decision, SCOTUS will just refuse to hear the case. Lisa is free to appeal but SCOTUS is free to refuse to review it. Well said Lou - my take as well - SCOTUS has already basically decided this- no need to retrace footsteps..

Well stated GF - you beat me to the punch. (I love the way you think!) Blackstone's description of the right of Englishmen to "bear and carry" arms because of a fundamental right of self-preservation against violence is key. Additionally, the base of American law, at the time of the writing of the Constitution / Bill of Rights was English law of the period. The 2A follows Blackstone's writing and is why it is in the Bill or Rights. The ruling of the 7th court is sound and is in line with the Heller / McDonald decisions.