Plinkermostly Posted January 5, 2024 at 07:48 PM Share Posted January 5, 2024 at 07:48 PM (edited) News is out -- so is Wayne. Edited January 5, 2024 at 07:55 PM by Plinkermostly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted January 5, 2024 at 07:55 PM Author Share Posted January 5, 2024 at 07:55 PM https://home.nra.org/statements/nra-evp-wayne-lapierre-announces-resignation-from-nra/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted January 5, 2024 at 08:08 PM Share Posted January 5, 2024 at 08:08 PM So, when will the NRA move their corporation from NY to a ruby red state? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnwfan3 Posted January 5, 2024 at 08:52 PM Share Posted January 5, 2024 at 08:52 PM Wow!! I didn't see that coming. Happy days!! Hopefully whoever take his place will be much better and lead the NRA in the direction it needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fife Posted January 5, 2024 at 08:54 PM Share Posted January 5, 2024 at 08:54 PM Get well Wayne! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 5, 2024 at 08:56 PM Share Posted January 5, 2024 at 08:56 PM Now let's see if they change the rules so this can't ever happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted January 5, 2024 at 09:02 PM Share Posted January 5, 2024 at 09:02 PM On 1/5/2024 at 2:56 PM, davel501 said: Now let's see if they change the rules so this can't ever happen again. THIS right here........I'm guessing the donations are down to absolutely cataclysmic levels given how SAF,NSSF,GOA,FPC and others have shown how irrelevant the FuddRA has become. Suggestion for the next leader........Do more than sell ads in Rifleman and working behind the scenes to make sure all your country club buddies don't lose their investment on pre-86 transferables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted January 5, 2024 at 10:23 PM Share Posted January 5, 2024 at 10:23 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp Posted January 5, 2024 at 11:34 PM Share Posted January 5, 2024 at 11:34 PM As a life member since my early twenties, I've been profoundly disappointed in recent years, as the NRA has seemingly abandoned us here in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted January 6, 2024 at 12:39 AM Share Posted January 6, 2024 at 12:39 AM Still not getting a penny from me until they get rid of everyone else in the upper echelons and reboot the entire organization from the ground up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith44 Posted January 6, 2024 at 01:41 AM Share Posted January 6, 2024 at 01:41 AM About time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangerdeepv Posted January 6, 2024 at 01:44 AM Share Posted January 6, 2024 at 01:44 AM He needed to go 15 years ago.............hope his health improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted January 6, 2024 at 02:22 AM Share Posted January 6, 2024 at 02:22 AM On 1/5/2024 at 4:23 PM, lilguy said: So I'm looking at the above preview of the Hallelujah Chorus, and I'm taken aback by the name change of the choir. Will it always be the Mormon Tabernacle Choir to others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted January 6, 2024 at 02:25 AM Share Posted January 6, 2024 at 02:25 AM On 1/5/2024 at 7:44 PM, Rangerdeepv said: He needed to go 15 years ago... We would have remembered him fondly. Now, we're just going to remember him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomKoz Posted January 6, 2024 at 03:04 AM Share Posted January 6, 2024 at 03:04 AM I do believe they used to donate quite a bit to Republicans running for office. That is why NY went after them. Now donating not so much. 😢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 6, 2024 at 03:09 AM Share Posted January 6, 2024 at 03:09 AM On 1/5/2024 at 6:39 PM, Flynn said: Still not getting a penny from me until they get rid of everyone else in the upper echelons and reboot the entire organization from the ground up... There are some good folks there. I've talked to several over the years that knew what was wrong and what needed to change. I just hope there's enough of them to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bob Posted January 6, 2024 at 04:39 AM Share Posted January 6, 2024 at 04:39 AM It's kind of ironic that Letitia James wanted to stick it to the gun owners, and she ended up doing us a huge favor. I know this lawsuit has and will cost a ton of money, but Wayne needed to go bye bye, and this was probably the only way to get rid of him . I don't buy the health excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted January 6, 2024 at 07:17 PM Share Posted January 6, 2024 at 07:17 PM Leadership lost sight of the NRA mission. A political lobby was absolutely necessary but shooters created and supported the organization. Competition and training became an unwanted stepchild. They were the NRA biggest fans and sales people. The CMP has filled the vacuum. I am not sure if or how new leadership can bring back it's once dominance. I am still rooting for it. Sadly USAShooting leadership has also shot itself in the foot. Gun people are our own worst enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted January 6, 2024 at 08:56 PM Share Posted January 6, 2024 at 08:56 PM They lost me when they went to their online training crap, and expect us to take them to the range hoping they were the one that actually did the training. They were so money hungry to cut us out they blew up the program. The last day I taught an NRA class was the day they rolled that turd out. If I'm going to step on a range with a new shooter, it will ONLY be after I have taught them proper gun safety and fundamentals. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted January 6, 2024 at 11:38 PM Share Posted January 6, 2024 at 11:38 PM On 1/6/2024 at 1:17 PM, Smallbore said: Sadly USAShooting leadership has also shot itself in the foot. Can you elaborate on that or point me to any info sources please? That’s something I hadn’t heard about and would like to learn more. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted January 7, 2024 at 01:11 AM Share Posted January 7, 2024 at 01:11 AM This explains a lot: https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ny-ag-letitia-james-flips-nras-former-second-in-command/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted January 7, 2024 at 03:43 AM Share Posted January 7, 2024 at 03:43 AM On 1/6/2024 at 5:38 PM, Yeti said: Can you elaborate on that or point me to any info sources please? That’s something I hadn’t heard about and would like to learn more. Thanks! Kind of complicated. USAShooting was created by congress approximately 30 years ago. Congress in effect took away from the NRA the Olympic national governing body authority for the summer Olympics shooting events. They gave the authority to USAShooting promising the NRA shooting coaches financial support for supporting the new organization. The money never happened. Anyone surprised. USAShooting continued using the NRA coaching department to train and certify coaches. They still do but the NRA has dropped the ball on that too. Back in the late 90s and early 2000s NRA, Cmp and USAShooting leadership were working well together to promote grassroots competition as a building program for our Olympic shooting team. The army at Fort Benning was also involved. All good things must come to end. Good people retire or die. Replacements had their agenda to get all the credit. Cooperation was replaced by competition. USAShooting and their coaching program was being helped by the NRA and the Cmp. USAShooting has continually been short on money. They happened to walk on to a new double decker 50 meter shooting ranged built by the NRA. The NRA kept helping after losing the NGB. USAShooting continued to use the NRA coach program, leaders and coaches to maintain consistency. None of us coaches out here in the grassroots know what is going. Several years ago USAShooting decided to start their own coach training program on line giving some lip service to existing NRA program. This throw everything in turmoil including the NRA training department. They all became stupid. The USAShooting coach program failed. There is nobody at the NRA qualified to run the coaches program especially to keep the teaching materials updated. As a USAShooting level 3 coach for rifle and pistol and a NRA Training Counselor and a member of the National Coaches Development Staff I used to have leadership names and numbers to call to answer questions. That structure is no more. It is a mess. Why can't we all work together for a common objective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted January 7, 2024 at 04:59 AM Share Posted January 7, 2024 at 04:59 AM Wow, a mess. Thanks for sharing that background, appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingc Posted January 7, 2024 at 06:53 AM Share Posted January 7, 2024 at 06:53 AM On 1/5/2024 at 8:22 PM, mikew said: The name was changed to get away from referring to their church by short hand names such as Mormon and LDS, names both used in and out of the church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinelgin Posted January 8, 2024 at 03:09 AM Share Posted January 8, 2024 at 03:09 AM On 1/5/2024 at 6:39 PM, Flynn said: Still not getting a penny from me until they get rid of everyone else in the upper echelons and reboot the entire organization from the ground up... This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunCollector Posted January 8, 2024 at 08:31 PM Share Posted January 8, 2024 at 08:31 PM About time. I stopped being a member years ago solely because of Wayne - corrupt, self-serving, narcissist. I believe he belongs in jail. Unfortunately he hand-picked his successor, and "his" board remains largely in place, so don't expect anything to change. Also, the way he treated Ollie North was despicable, in my opinion. Where has the NRA been while IL politicians erode our 2A? I won't rejoin until I see real change at the NRA. I know there are life time members etc. on this board, but this is how I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ddiver Posted January 8, 2024 at 09:22 PM Share Posted January 8, 2024 at 09:22 PM On 1/6/2024 at 2:56 PM, John Q Public said: They lost me when they went to their online training crap, and expect us to take them to the range hoping they were the one that actually did the training. They were so money hungry to cut us out they blew up the program. The last day I taught an NRA class was the day they rolled that turd out. If I'm going to step on a range with a new shooter, it will ONLY be after I have taught them proper gun safety and fundamentals. Period. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windchaser Posted January 8, 2024 at 10:59 PM Share Posted January 8, 2024 at 10:59 PM On 1/5/2024 at 6:39 PM, Flynn said: Still not getting a penny from me until they get rid of everyone else in the upper echelons and reboot the entire organization from the ground up... +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hceuterpe Posted January 9, 2024 at 12:39 AM Share Posted January 9, 2024 at 12:39 AM (edited) At this point I think the best and most feasible outcome that could happen for NRA, is for the 501c3 Foundation wing to split off and focus solely on gun safety, competitions, and training. Basically getting back to their roots. I think the lobbying is what started all the corruption currently plaguing the NRA. Besides in recent times, other organizations have fared far better in legislative/lobbying efforts, and also court cases (like SAF). Leave these efforts to others and the NRA should cease this activity altogether. Edited January 9, 2024 at 12:40 AM by hceuterpe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted January 9, 2024 at 12:41 AM Share Posted January 9, 2024 at 12:41 AM On 1/8/2024 at 4:59 PM, Windchaser said: +1 +2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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