State wants my age/ocupation/purpose of firearm ?

[flw]

I did a transfer the other day (first this year). After I did the 4473. w/FOID and DL. Then asked me my age/occupation and the purpose of the firearm. I asked was this just the state or new federal thing. They told me it was just the state of Illinois.

 

So my question is the State of Illinois maintaining a list of gun purchases by owner by age by occupation by purpose ? Who gets to view this database and how long is data held?

 

Sorry if I'm the last to notice this change on the buyer's side of the transaction.

[kster]

it's been on the illinois laws for years. only recently brought into light

[Euler]

See New questions for IL handgun purchase? in the Back room.

[Bird76Mojo]

Simple.. Supply these three things:

Accurate age
Taxpayer
For shooting

[Bubbacs]

Age 64

Occupation Retired

Reason Personal Use

 

 

 

Been doing this for years in Illinois

Some FFL’s haven’t been doing it for years

Some have now started to do it as it’s part of the paper work

My LGS says it’s kept in house with the 4473

 

Not sure why it’s a big deal, everyone has their info out there

You’re on camera everywhere

You're on paper everywhere

You're on the internet everywhere

 

Ex wife

Ex girlfriend/boyfriend

 

It’s just a questionnaire.......

[Jeffrey]

Would constitutional motivator be a red flag for an occupation?

 

 

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[Reaper]

I've seen that question for years.

[RandyP]

As has been mentioned Illinois has required that info for years. I suspect with the new laws and procedures for FFls, everyone is making extra sure to dot their "I's" and cross their "T's" on all paperwork? Especially those FFL's who have not been following that little detail prior?

[xrlke]

My response for reason for purchase has always been: because I can. My FFL dealer has always loved it.

[ragsbo]

I have never been asked those questions any time I have bought a firearm in this state

[GLOCK22]

I have never been asked those questions any time I have bought a firearm in this state

Neither have I....

[mauserme]

Asking occupation and purpose is pretty much the rule in my neck of the woods.

 

I've never been asked age that I can remember - maybe because my date of birth is on my FOID card and is required on the 4473.

[SiliconSorcerer]

I have never been asked those questions any time I have bought a firearm in this state

 

Me either and well that's more then a few times.

[Quiet Observer]

Asking occupation and purpose is pretty much the rule in my neck of the woods.

 

I've never been asked age that I can remember - maybe because my date of birth is on my FOID card and is required on the 4473.

 

I do not see a problem either. In casual conversation I have told strangers my age (74) and occupation (retired from the Navy and retired RN) if asked.

 

I do not see a reason for the state to ask the reason for the gun purchase, but have no problem with stating the usual reasons: hunting, defense, collecting, etc.

No one is going to volunteer that he is going to use it to commit a crime.

[Glock23]

I don't recall age being one of the questions, but they do want your occupation, reason for purchase, and how much you paid.

[Yas]

Has the state regulated or stated what would be an incorrect answer for any of the 3 questions?

 

Example: If you answer "Drug Dealer" or "Meat popcycle " as an occupation is it grounds for a refusal?

[Terry 9595]

I always put

Firearm instructor

For use in class

 

Makes it tax deductable, or at least it was for years. Don't know if it is this year.

[Nanook]

The questions are just being enforced since the new stuff went into effect.

 

My last two purchases they asked the questions, never had before.

[InterestedBystander]

Many were not aware that requirement existed. As the ISP began doing Dealer Certification education I think it got brought up in those sessions so more are aware now.

[Bubbacs]

Mega Sports the LGS that everyone loves to hate has been doing this for years.

But it probably doesnt matter as no one really buys from there........

 

But some stores run a tighter ship than most.

[carry]

How about "any lawful Illinois use" ... similar to saying what your business is going to do in Illinois when incorporating a business - "any lawful Illinois business".

[capnbill]

I did an FFL transfer recently; the new Illinois form also asked for the value of the firearm.

 

Are they looking to tax it or assign a value for "buy back".

[tkroenlein]

Holy FUDDS Batman...

[Euler]

I did an FFL transfer recently; the new Illinois form also asked for the value of the firearm.

 

Are they looking to tax it or assign a value for "buy back".

Never assume malice when taxation is sufficient to explain motive.

[Black Flag]

I did an FFL transfer recently; the new Illinois form also asked for the value of the firearm.

What new Illinois form is that?

[Bubbacs]

Not sure it’s actually a form

Kind of a sheet of paper printed out with some legal ease and a place at the bottom to answer those questions.

I saw no Illinois or federal form number on either one.

Reminds me of the copy machine of your drivers license and FOID which is attached to the pile of forms they keep

 

 

More than likely a cya for dealers who want to NOT have issues with the Febs or Locals

[Glock23]

My FFL just has us write at the top of the ATF 4473... nothing formal about it lol.

[Mr. Fife]

Punching holes

[Black Flag]

I did an FFL transfer recently; the new Illinois form also asked for the value of the firearm.

$USD0.00 < value < $USD∞

[max503]

I have never been asked those questions any time I have bought a firearm in this state

I haven't either. Ever.