Illinois Dems Target "Assault Weapons", Age of Gun Owners

[davel501]

On 12/8/2022 at 11:42 AM, mauserme said:

 

It's never been out of Rules.  So far, it's scheduled as subject matter only which doesn't require a committee assignment.

 

 

 

I could swear it was assigned to judicial when we did witness slips. It looks like all the witness slips are gone again.

[SiliconSorcerer]

JB also said he's also not a constitutional lawyer, I don't think he's a lawyer at all but you don't have to be a "constitutional" lawyer to understand the recent decisions from scotus and federal courts, if it happens the only question is how quickly the hits the court.   Like the CC licensing Illinois might be sorry for what they started, a smart lawyer would let sleeping dogs lie. 

[EdDinIL]

On 12/8/2022 at 11:46 AM, davel501 said:

 

I could swear it was assigned to judicial when we did witness slips. It looks like all the witness slips are gone again.

The slips are still there.

 

[Matt B]

On 12/8/2022 at 11:34 AM, Jeffrey said:

At what point do they(ISP) just start sending letters out to every FOID holder that it's no longer valid.  I guarantee they already have it written.  With 2mm+ FOID holders it really is upsetting that we don't get more to become involved in the fight.

I think about this too. How many of the 2mm+ FOID holders are even aware this is happening? There could be hundreds of thousands of people that don’t even realize it until the ISP sends out a letter sometime next year notifying them to register their “assault weapons” and oh by the way you are a felon now for those Glock 19 magazines.

[solareclipse2]

On 12/8/2022 at 11:55 AM, Matt B said:

I think about this too. How many of the 2mm+ FOID holders are even aware this is happening? There could be hundreds of thousands of people that don’t even realize it until the ISP sends out a letter sometime next year notifying them to register their “assault weapons” and oh by the way you are a felon now for those Glock 19 magazines.

 

Hmm...I wonder if we could get legislation passed that the ISP has to notify all FOID holders that there has been legislation that would impact their rights as it relates to firearms? I mean they are calling themselves the "Firearms Services Bureau" after all. 

[mauserme]

On 12/8/2022 at 11:46 AM, davel501 said:

 

I could swear it was assigned to judicial when we did witness slips. It looks like all the witness slips are gone again.

 

Judiciary - Criminal has the bill posted for subject matter.  The resolution, on the other hand, is assigned to Judiciary - Criminal and will probably be heard and approved for consideration.

 

The witness slip are there, but they're not transferring over to the bill status page on ILGA.Gov for some reason.  They're different systems that don't seem to be talking to each other right now.  It get's like that during the holidays with all the meal planning, in-laws visiting and such.  They'll work it out.

 

 

[JDW]

On 12/8/2022 at 10:41 AM, Matt B said:

People can talk about running to another state, but remember that we are one senator and a few house seats away from a national AWB. May as well stay and fight on the front lines to try to get all AWBs ruled unconstitutional. There is no hiding from these even in red states.

Apparently you missed the part where I said, "too late now" I'm not moving. Oh and as for D.C. with the RINOs and sellouts, I expect something big will be coming, just can't say when. Illinois taxes are a huge issue, along with the corruption. It's not just 2A why I wanted out. But hey, let's move along and stay on topic. 

[Jeffrey]

On 12/8/2022 at 12:00 PM, solareclipse2 said:

 

Hmm...I wonder if we could get legislation passed that the ISP has to notify all FOID holders that there has been legislation that would impact their rights as it relates to firearms? I mean they are calling themselves the "Firearms Services Bureau" after all. 

If it's something that could directly affect the card holder, that seems like it should be mandatory just not after the fact.  I don't think our legislators would sign on, including the R's.

[davel501]

On 12/8/2022 at 12:04 PM, mauserme said:

 

Judiciary - Criminal has the bill posted for subject matter.  The resolution, on the other hand, is assigned to Judiciary - Criminal and will probably be heard and approved for consideration.

 

The witness slip are there, but they're not transferring over to the bill status page on ILGA.Gov for some reason.  They're different systems that don't seem to be talking to each other right now.  It get's like that during the holidays with all the meal planning, in-laws visiting and such.  They'll work it out.

 

 

 

Yep, that's where I was looking.

[Dumak_from_arfcom]

On 12/8/2022 at 1:23 PM, Jeffrey said:

If it's something that could directly affect the card holder, that seems like it should be mandatory just not after the fact.  I don't think our legislators would sign on, including the R's.

They don't want people informed. They'll want to make arrests and have a big presser about how effective the law already is.  My local range always seems to have cops shooting there.  The average Joe who doesn't follow the news or politics will get arrested when the cops walk by and watch Mr. Average Joe load 15 rounds into his magazine.  

There is no grace period and anyone with standard capacity mags becomes an Instant felon for a reason.  The democrats never do anything without a plan. 

Edited December 8, 2022 at 07:50 PM by Dumak_from_arfcom

[Jeffrey]

motorboat accident rate gonna go up next year

[G214me]

On 12/8/2022 at 11:55 AM, Matt B said:

I think about this too. How many of the 2mm+ FOID holders are even aware this is happening? There could be hundreds of thousands of people that don’t even realize it until the ISP sends out a letter sometime next year notifying them to register their “assault weapons” and oh by the way you are a felon now for those Glock 19 magazines.

This commie idiot run state isn't going to send anyone anything. They can barely get FOID cards out even after getting the money for them. It's also sad that we have 2,000,000 + FOID card holders and less than 14,000 opponents to the bill. This VAST majority of gun owners in this state are FUDDS or they collaborate and vote for those who want to destroy their rights. 

[Capt_Destro]

All of my firearms are trans and now identify as bolt action rifles. My magazines also identify as 10 rounders. If anyone tries to call them assault weapons they are bigots. You are dead naming them. 

 

I didn't use purple because I am not joking.

[steveTA84]

Can someone ask JB if his family has scary guns at their museum? The Pritzker family (his cousins) have like the only FFL in Chicago LOL https://fflezcheck.atf.gov/FFLEzCheck/fflSearch

[steveTA84]

Check out this headline 

 

 

[solareclipse2]

On 12/9/2022 at 7:36 AM, steveTA84 said:

Check out this headline 

 

 

 

There really needs to be some stiff penalties both for politicians talking out their hind ends and proposing legislation they know is BS. I can't blame the news reporters too much for this because they're just reporting on this nonsense. 

[steveTA84]

Center Square taking notice on the lopsided witness slips. Also, the communist Catholic Conference of Illinois said they want a total ban of ALL semi-autos LOL 

 

https://www.thecentersquare.com/illinois/witness-slips-stack-up-as-illinois-house-committee-set-to-debate-more-gun-restrictions-monday/article_18caab00-7729-11ed-9b84-47ec1ed8a10b.html?utm_source=thecentersquare.com&utm_campaign=%2Fnewsletters%2Flists%2Ft2%2Fillinois%2F&utm_medium=email&utm_content=headline

Edited December 9, 2022 at 02:53 PM by steveTA84

[papa]

On 12/8/2022 at 11:34 AM, Jeffrey said:

At what point do they(ISP) just start sending letters out to every FOID holder that it's no longer valid.  I guarantee they already have it written.  With 2mm+ FOID holders it really is upsetting that we don't get more to become involved in the fight.

 

Unfortunately there are a lot of FOID holders who don't like the MSRs and wouldn't mind seeing them banned .  I have at least 4 FOID card holders in my own family who have revolvers and lever action rifles and don't like any semi-automatic firearm.   My sister even stated to me , " What does anyone need one of those AR things for ? You can't hunt with them and no one needs that many rounds in a CLIP! ".  I tried to educate her about the facts but it was kind of like water running off a ducks back. 

[Lou]

"Assault Weapon" is the new dog whistle for progressives.

[steveTA84]

Bob screwed up. By him encouraging witness slips, he is showing he’s watching them. On Monday, our side needs to push him hard on why he’s advancing a bill that is not popular with voters and use the “legislators not listening to the people partaking in democracy is dangerous to our democracy” line of thinking 

 

Edited December 9, 2022 at 03:22 PM by steveTA84

[crufflesmuth]

TBH..

 

You're not a Catholic if you support enabling the police state, which this bill does - you're a Vatican II secularist, heretic and should

be excommunicado..

 

Semi-auto ban? We need to respond to lies with truth: it's a right, and a right does not need justification. 

 

Like the DUI laws, once passed: the Assault Weapon Ban statute will be abused by the worst police against the best people. Some might turn a blind eye; a large

plurality will justify engaging in abusive behavior by the mere words, "I could lose my job". 

 

I'm confident in the litigation. The landscape has changed. California's handgun roster is going up in flames. The magazine and cosmetic feature bans are facing

increased scrutiny in states like Connecticut and Deleware. And when this law is challeneged, Don Harmon and Welch won't have the luxury of weighing it against

a municipal ordinance - it will be weighed against ALL the precedents being set, in addition to Bruen. 

 

The reality is progressives have redefined culture. They've made millennials into children, who are free - but not free and independent. People have very little to live for. Progressives destroyed community, with their immigration policies, which is why police can get away with more than in the past. Why do we have school shootings? because progressives, like conservatives have no limits on brutality: forgot to renew your driver's license? you're being arrested and charged and treated just like a hardened criminal.

 

Forgot to signal and cut a police car off? you're spending 3+ months out on bail and defending yourself against a person who never loses their job - with limited promise of justice. When you have these policies in place, you're incentivizing a cycle of destruction.

 

Our culture is so focused on LGBTQ+ and racial politics, men don't feel they have a say. Even worse, men don't feel they can have healthy relationships with women. If we want to reduce violence, we need to acknowledge sexuality and sexual identity. Legalizing prostitution does more to stop violence than this bill does. Looking at suburban culture, it's transiant. Nobody grows up in a neighborhood anymore - they either live in Chicago or they become an alumni of a transiant university community. 

 

Edited December 9, 2022 at 03:35 PM by crufflesmuth

[RECarry]

This Bob Morgan "Representative" absolutely needs to hear from our side. He claims his office has been contacted by numerous people concerned with gun-violence?  Well then Bob needs to account for ignoring my four polite attempts over the past month to enumerate how Gun Free Zone zealots created a public safety disaster and a target-rich environment at the Highland Park parade. They read what they want to read.

 

Gun Free Zones are bait for criminals, not a deterrent. Highland Park "visionaries" want to purge all law-abiding citizens who could stop a threat before it gets worse in the name of "public safety".  

 

 

Edited December 9, 2022 at 04:43 PM by RECarry

[EdDinIL]

5 "No Positions" giving oral testimony, or 5 "No Positions" who don't know how to fill out witness slips?

 

[Caveman2021]

anyone else having issues sleeping over this? heck.. i feel i gotta find a new state to live in 2 months and housing economy sucks...

[crufflesmuth]

Safe gun legislation ..

 

Being charged with a Class A Misdemeanor for having previously lawful magazine(s) - a Class A misdemeanor is one charge below a felony and just 

as easy to charge people with as a DUI charge is

 

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Safe gun legislation 

 

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Pitting the police against people 

 

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Wow Bob Morgan, that's such an accomplishment! 

 

 

Edited December 9, 2022 at 03:58 PM by crufflesmuth

[crufflesmuth]

On 12/8/2022 at 2:23 PM, G214me said:

This commie idiot run state isn't going to send anyone anything. They can barely get FOID cards out even after getting the money for them. It's also sad that we have 2,000,000 + FOID card holders and less than 14,000 opponents to the bill. This VAST majority of gun owners in this state are FUDDS or they collaborate and vote for those who want to destroy their rights. 

 

They essentially incorporated mandated training to obtain a FOID, when they came up with the combination card rule. But don't worry: wealthy lives at wealthy zip codes matter! 

[RECarry]

Here are the faces of NE Illinois anti-gun politicians milking the Highland Park 4th of July parade tragedy for all its worth. What is it with their expressions?

Gun Free Zone Champions D-House Bob Morgan and D-Senate Julie Morrison.

 

[Jeffrey]

He looks like a bad used car sales man

[davel501]

On 12/9/2022 at 10:47 AM, RECarry said:

Here are the faces of NE Illinois anti-gun politicians milking the Highland Park 4th of July parade tragedy for all its worth. What is it with their expressions?

Gun Free Zone Champions D-House Bob Morgan and D-Senate Julie Morrison.

 

 

Morrison is such unholy garbage. Just a complete narcissist.  I tried to work with her on the nightmare of the skier down flag law she rammed through after her nephew was killed in a boating accident. She wouldn't hear anything from anyone. The law she rammed through and still stands today is actually making the waters more dangerous according to the actual laws of most other states.

[Raygun F]

In case you missed it...

https://www.wlsam.com/2022/12/08/richard-pearson-challenges-to-pritzkers-proposed-assault-weapon-ban/

Richard Pearson: Challenges to Pritzker’s Proposed Assault Weapon Ban

Dec 8, 2022 | rwoodall

John Howell is joined by Richard Pearson, Executive Director of the Illinois State Rifle Association. Pritzker has proposed an assault weapons ban, and it is likely to face legal challenges. Pearson and Howell discuss the different pieces of the proposal and how Pearson plans to challenge each of them.