mikew Posted March 21, 2019 at 07:33 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 07:33 PM Great news. What other Constitutionally protected right do you have to pass a test and pay for?To operate a radio transmitter.
herrmannd Posted March 21, 2019 at 08:00 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 08:00 PM Great news. What other Constitutionally protected right do you have to pass a test and pay for?To operate a radio transmitter. That is federal, if I'm not mistaken.
herrmannd Posted March 21, 2019 at 08:03 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 08:03 PM Oh and back on the topic. This is great progress. Thanks for the update Molly. P.S. Could you check my supporting member status.
stockboyy Posted March 21, 2019 at 08:07 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 08:07 PM GOOD NEWSThis is Long----------------Long Over-Due.
Glock23 Posted March 21, 2019 at 09:02 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 09:02 PM Constitutional protected rights don't end at your doorway threshold, so if even if the wording of a final ruling is narrow it should be easy to expand upon. And even in the interm a ruling that no FOID is needed to own/possses guns in your residence is a HUGE step forward in this state.Yes, but until the FOID is gone completely, it's still a roadblock. So I don't need a FOID to have a gun at home, but without a FOID, I still can't go out and buy one, legally transport it to/from a range to practice, etc.
357 Posted March 21, 2019 at 09:04 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 09:04 PM Great news. What other Constitutionally protected right do you have to pass a test and pay for? To operate a radio transmitter.Operating a radio transmitter has to do with Federally regulated frequencies and electronic equipment and high voltages. Not the same thing and not free speech or right which shall not be infringed.
InterestedBystander Posted March 21, 2019 at 09:05 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 09:05 PM Out of curiousity, do we know what happened that got her charged?
Mr. Fife Posted March 21, 2019 at 09:10 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 09:10 PM Great news. What other Constitutionally protected right do you have to pass a test and pay for? To operate a radio transmitter. That is federal, if I'm not mistaken.The feds don't charge for an amateur radio license. Any fees are for the test and are charged by a Volunteer Examiner Coordinator. Find a VEC who will do it for free, and you're good to go. I'm not sure about other radio licenses though.
357 Posted March 21, 2019 at 09:23 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 09:23 PM Great news. What other Constitutionally protected right do you have to pass a test and pay for?Great news. What other Constitutionally protected right do you have to pass a test and pay for?Having to pay and ask for permission from the ISP makes it a privilege and is treated by politicians in this state as a privilege which can easily be revoked by the ISP and in some cases the right has been taken away for traffic offenses which have been discussed on this board. Can't wait for the Supreme Court to invalidate all these Unconstitutional laws paid by the anti Constitutional rights people who want total control.
Hipshot Percussion Posted March 21, 2019 at 09:52 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 09:52 PM (edited) Molly, is there any need to start a GoFundMe to help in this effort? I'm sure there a lot of people here who would be willing to kick in a few bucks - myself included Edited March 21, 2019 at 09:53 PM by Hipshot Percussion
Bird76Mojo Posted March 21, 2019 at 10:20 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 10:20 PM Now that I think about it, this could potentially have some far reaching effects. Such as anyone that gets "red flagged" having to turn their guns in to the police if their significant other doesn't have a FOID.
steveTA84 Posted March 21, 2019 at 10:59 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 10:59 PM Interesting on the date of the ruling. Just so happens to be 2/14/18 (date of Parkland shooting, which has turned into the biggest gun control push ever)
steveTA84 Posted March 21, 2019 at 11:18 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 11:18 PM Someone from out of state sees it exactly for what it is http://i.imgur.com/P6Ps7KA.jpg http://i.imgur.com/JAGbhc4.jpg
steveTA84 Posted March 21, 2019 at 11:29 PM Posted March 21, 2019 at 11:29 PM Someone from out of state sees it exactly for what it ishttp://i.imgur.com/P6Ps7KA.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/JAGbhc4.jpg FYI (you know who you are. Thank you for the suggestion) http://i.imgur.com/BZ34vCz.jpg
Tvandermyde Posted March 22, 2019 at 12:57 AM Posted March 22, 2019 at 12:57 AM A motion to appeal was filed on 11/20/18. An extension was requested on 1/23/19Another extention was requested on 3/12/19 with the court saying this is the final extension briefs due on 4/26 Then there will be the reply brief from the defandant and then, there will be a reply from the state to which they will dawdel and most likely ask for an extension. So may not get before the Court till October. Right about the time New York is being heard. So depending, we could go up after New York. And have the benefit of those orals. and depending on how long delayed, could even see a ruling in the interum. this may toss a monkey wrench into some of those things going on at the capitol.
Rangerdeepv Posted March 22, 2019 at 01:52 AM Posted March 22, 2019 at 01:52 AM Two pieces of good news in one day with regard to 2A?WOW!
McCroskey Posted March 22, 2019 at 02:19 AM Posted March 22, 2019 at 02:19 AM Top notch work! I'm glad we're helping her out with a new attorney and it's a shame the old one is retiring, sounds like they're great whoever they are.
Molly B. Posted March 22, 2019 at 02:22 AM Author Posted March 22, 2019 at 02:22 AM Molly, is there any need to start a GoFundMe to help in this effort? I'm sure there a lot of people here who would be willing to kick in a few bucks - myself includedRather than a go fund me, we would rather see donations to IllinoisCarry marked Brown case.
quackersmacker Posted March 22, 2019 at 02:43 AM Posted March 22, 2019 at 02:43 AM Molly, is there any need to start a GoFundMe to help in this effort? I'm sure there a lot of people here who would be willing to kick in a few bucks - myself includedme too. only in this context!
quackersmacker Posted March 22, 2019 at 02:44 AM Posted March 22, 2019 at 02:44 AM Molly, is there any need to start a GoFundMe to help in this effort? I'm sure there a lot of people here who would be willing to kick in a few bucks - myself includedRather than a go fund me, we would rather see donations to IllinoisCarry marked Brown case. Ah, that's good. thanks Molly
BobPistol Posted March 22, 2019 at 03:36 AM Posted March 22, 2019 at 03:36 AM This is awesome. I hope the plaintiff uses the other SCOIL ruling to help them out.
skinnyb82 Posted March 22, 2019 at 01:03 PM Posted March 22, 2019 at 01:03 PM I must note that this is AS APPLIED challenge. Not a facial challenge. It's not gonna void our the FOID. It'll just void out the FOID requirement for defendant Brown. I can't figure out why her lawyer would plead it that way but that's what happened. I suppose it could turn into a facial challenge, but...I dunno. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
loudes13 Posted March 22, 2019 at 01:42 PM Posted March 22, 2019 at 01:42 PM I’m following this one! Allen Skillicorn www.allenskillicorn.com
springfield shooter Posted March 22, 2019 at 02:22 PM Posted March 22, 2019 at 02:22 PM I must note that this is AS APPLIED challenge. Not a facial challenge. It's not gonna void our the FOID. It'll just void out the FOID requirement for defendant Brown. I can't figure out why her lawyer would plead it that way but that's what happened. I suppose it could turn into a facial challenge, but...I dunno. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk The next step (if it played out that way) would be to litigate the fact that if defendant Brown can't be legally required to have a FOID card, then neither can anybody else.
Hipshot Percussion Posted March 22, 2019 at 03:31 PM Posted March 22, 2019 at 03:31 PM Molly, is there any need to start a GoFundMe to help in this effort? I'm sure there a lot of people here who would be willing to kick in a few bucks - myself includedRather than a go fund me, we would rather see donations to IllinoisCarry marked Brown case. Done
Jeffrey Posted March 22, 2019 at 03:35 PM Posted March 22, 2019 at 03:35 PM Great news. What other Constitutionally protected right do you have to pass a test and pay for?Great news. What other Constitutionally protected right do you have to pass a test and pay for?Having to pay and ask for permission from the ISP makes it a privilege and is treated by politicians in this state as a privilege which can easily be revoked by the ISP and in some cases the right has been taken away for traffic offenses which have been discussed on this board. Can't wait for the Supreme Court to invalidate all these Unconstitutional laws paid by the anti Constitutional rights people who want total control. Exactly. Even those who yell fire in a movie theater never lose their right to free speech.
skinnyb82 Posted March 22, 2019 at 04:08 PM Posted March 22, 2019 at 04:08 PM The next step (if it played out that way) would be to litigate the fact that if defendant Brown can't be legally required to have a FOID card, then neither can anybody else.That's the logical process. I just don't know why her attorney challenged it as applied. Not like some felon restoration case where details are VERY important. It's gonna be interesting when it comes up on appeal. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
mauserme Posted March 22, 2019 at 05:09 PM Posted March 22, 2019 at 05:09 PM The next step (if it played out that way) would be to litigate the fact that if defendant Brown can't be legally required to have a FOID card, then neither can anybody else.That's the logical process. I just don't know why her attorney challenged it as applied. Not like some felon restoration case where details are VERY important. It's gonna be interesting when it comes up on appeal. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk My guess is that because this was a criminal case, her attorney's primary duty was to his client.
ragsbo Posted March 22, 2019 at 09:22 PM Posted March 22, 2019 at 09:22 PM Sounds like a move in the right direction but as we all know, the courts take their own sweet time and we all know the state will fight this with every method (legal or not) they can come up with. We must keep pushing it and keep their feet to the fire. I think we should demand all the money we had to pay for the FOID crap returned to us with interest!
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