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Can a sword be legally carried openly in IL?

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vito Member

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I looked at some material concerning knife law here in IL, but saw nothing pertaining to swords. If swords are just considered long knives, wondering if it would be legal to have a sword in a scabbard worn openly in this state. Not sure if I ever would want to do so, but a saw an ad for a short Roman soldier type sword, 1.6 inch blade, and it sure looked cool. 

BobPistol Member

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Sikhs carry a weapon at all times for self defense - some wear a sword around their neck in a necklace (similar to a Christian wearing a cross) - while others carry a usable weapon.   

mikew Member

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On 2/16/2024 at 4:02 PM, BobPistol said:

Sikhs carry a weapon at all times for self defense - some wear a sword around their neck in a necklace (similar to a Christian wearing a cross) - while others carry a usable weapon.   

The bracelet is a vestigial shield.

Euler Member

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Swords are considered long knives, for the purposes of law. There is no state law for non-"throwing," fixed-blade knives. There are lots of municipal laws for knives. There might be some county laws. If you carry one, expect to get hassled by the cops for disturbing the peace (misdemeanor) or intimidation (felony).
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I just thought it might be fun to wear a sword on my belt while out and about. But it would not be worth the hassle of getting arrested. 

solareclipse2 Member

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On 2/16/2024 at 6:26 PM, mikew said:

When the COVID hit, I put a tennis ball on the end of a foil and called it
"The Sword of Social Distancing".

I needed it at WalMart.

 

 

So weird, I put a bayonet on the end of my 590A1 and did the same thing. 

JTHunter Member

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As I am now using a cane for balance and back support, I looked into the possibility of getting a "sword cane" instead of just a wooden cane.

No dice.  They are also considered to be a "concealed weapon". 🤢 🤮

Yeti Member

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On 2/17/2024 at 8:09 PM, JTHunter said:

As I am now using a cane for balance and back support, I looked into the possibility of getting a "sword cane" instead of just a wooden cane.

No dice.  They are also considered to be a "concealed weapon". 🤢 🤮

Would you mind sharing your source on that?  I cannot find a link to clear law there.  There is a thread about “Cubs Rooftops” in this Forum where a clear law was not turned up if I recall.  Sword canes can be shipped to IL but maybe it depends on where it is carried or maybe there was a recent law change?

 

This app says they’re legal in IL:

 

https://kniferights.org/resources/legal-blade/

Yeti Member

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On 2/19/2024 at 8:27 PM, JTHunter said:

Yeti,  I believe the information I got was from a LGS and that the canes were considered "concealed weapons".  That was the problem.

Thank you.  I’d like to verify that with text of a law but haven’t been able to.  Not that your LGS source is wrong but others certainly have been in certain cases.  Will have to keep digging…

papa Member

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On 2/19/2024 at 10:22 PM, Yeti said:

Thank you.  I’d like to verify that with text of a law but haven’t been able to.  Not that your LGS source is wrong but others certainly have been in certain cases.  Will have to keep digging…

 You may have already seen this but just what I found .    https://www.andrewnickel.com/blog/2021/october/illinois-knife-laws/

mikew Member

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On 2/17/2024 at 8:09 PM, JTHunter said:

As I am now using a cane for balance and back support, I looked into the possibility of getting a "sword cane" instead of just a wooden cane.

No dice.  They are also considered to be a "concealed weapon". 🤢 🤮

I've thought about a cane with a reinforcing "truss rod", like an electric guitar.

 

rmart Member

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My understanding is that a telescoping baton is also illegal to carry.

I have an old East German telescoping attitude adjuster that fits in the pocket I'd like to carry sometimes.

mikew Member

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On 2/20/2024 at 4:06 PM, ragsbo said:

I see where Cold Steel is making a cane that has a cable "whip" in it instead of a sword. Wonder if that would be legal where a sword might not be

Dayum!  Thanks, I'll have to look.

I come from sword fighters, Mom and Dad met at the fencing club. (RIP * 2)
something like a 0.25" piece of music wire spring stock in the middle of the "cane" would be ideal, it does not even need a pointed end.

 

 

 

 

lilguy Member

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Are we searching for alternatives for guns now. I know gun ownership is a challenge in Illinois but regressing to the dark ages seems a bit extreme.

Seeing someone carrying a sidearm 

does not concern anyone here. Some one walking out in public with Excalibur strapped to his side would 

cause me to do a double take.

mikew Member

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On 2/21/2024 at 11:36 AM, lilguy said:

Are we searching for alternatives for guns now. I know gun ownership is a challenge in Illinois but regressing to the dark ages seems a bit extreme.

Seeing someone carrying a sidearm 

does not concern anyone here. Some one walking out in public with Excalibur strapped to his side would 

cause me to do a double take.

pocket knife vs claymore.

Glock 42 vs AR-15 at low ready...

Odinson Member

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On 2/21/2024 at 6:44 AM, rmart said:

My understanding is that a telescoping baton is also illegal to carry.

I have an old East German telescoping attitude adjuster that fits in the pocket I'd like to carry sometimes.

Not sure about that. I had a CPD detective in my Chicago office getting some video footage of just another crime on my block. He noticed the telescoping baton on my bicycle. I told him I am not carrying it to commit a crime or to do anyone harm. He smiled and acknowledged that since I was aware of the law, no problem.

Euler Member

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On February 21, 2024 at 12:55 PM CST, mikew said:→
pocket knife vs claymore.
...

As vito said in the opening post, gladius. It conquered Europe, Asia Minor, and North Africa. It should be good for city goblins and the occasional coyote (quadruped type).
JTHunter Member

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On 2/20/2024 at 3:42 PM, mikew said:

I've thought about a cane with a reinforcing "truss rod", like an electric guitar.

 

Perhaps, if the cane can't be separated and the "truss" exposed, you might get by.

Odinson Member

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A bit off topic as this sword and cutting was in the house - but it's still a sword story and we really don't hear enough of these.

 

Sword-Wielding Elmhurst Woman Arrested: Cops | Elmhurst, IL Patch

 

Collette Bajic, 54, of Elmhurst, was arrested about 11:30 p.m. Sunday at her house on charges of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon, misdemeanor domestic battery (two counts) and resisting a police officer.

RECarry Member

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I once visited the home of a Japanese family whose umbrella stand next to the front door contained several katanas at the ready. 

Perhaps they just enjoyed performing ceremonial greetings when guests arrived.

Smallbore Member

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On 2/22/2024 at 8:39 PM, JTHunter said:

 

Perhaps, if the cane can't be separated and the "truss" exposed, you might get by.

The opinion from:

https://www.andrewnickel.com/blog/2021/october/illinois-knife-laws/

"Other legal knives in Illinois include pocket/folding knives, bowie knives, dirks/daggers, swords, machetes, and disguised knives such as belt knives, cane knives, and lipstick knives."

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