bmyers Posted February 1, 2014 at 10:44 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 10:44 PM Rosewood Care Nursing Home in Alton posted GFZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WtJen Posted February 1, 2014 at 10:55 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 10:55 PM I'm somewhat confused about this thread. What is to prevent any and all private establishments in your part of IL from posting these signs? Does that effectively prevent concealed carry for you? The media is constantly bashing gun owners and casting us in a negative light, so I can only foresee more of these signs going up everywhere. Nothing prevents any business from posting signage except to understand the financial repercussions from doing so. Business people understand the bottom line. Politely give them a "No Guns, No cash" card and inform them that you can do no business with them as long as the signs remain. Also inform them that their business will be put on a app that other concealed carriers in their county can search and they will avoid their business as well. A few thousand concealed carry folks in a county can make quite a hit to your bottom line, especially in the more rural counties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt555gs Posted February 1, 2014 at 11:07 PM Share Posted February 1, 2014 at 11:07 PM Well stated WTJen. Signature line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted February 2, 2014 at 02:33 AM Share Posted February 2, 2014 at 02:33 AM Absolutely! Funny thing, though. The only penalties for NOT POSTING as required by law are for establishments getting >50% of their gross receipts from alcohol sales. There are no penalties for anyone else NOT POSTING as required. But what is the penalty for carrying into one of the 23 prohibited places even if they neglected to post signage as required by law? Anyone? Anyone? -- Frank Frank I believe I have the answer here for your question at least for hospitals. Probably have answers to a few questions once I find were is best to post this crap ton of paper work dropped on my desk here at the hospital. If you carry here they state:The Adventist policy is that any individual (including patients, visitors, vendors and staff) entering the Hospital Property with possession of a weapon will be informed that weapons are not permitted on Hospital Property, and will be asked to immediately:leave the building, and secure the firearm in his or her vehicle, or take the firearm home, orturn the weapon over to a person accompanying them, who then leaves the Hospital PropertyWhat if the person refuses to remove the firearm?Any Main Hospital Campus: If the individual refuses to comply, and you are on the main campus of a Hospital, immediately notify the Security Department staff who will notify the local police department and request assistance as needed.Physician Office or Other Offsite Location: Local police will be called immediately and assistance will be requested if the patient does not leave the premises in a timely manner.We are not required to provide non-emergency care to patients who refuse to comply with these requests. Im going to go with this will apply to most of the 23 places. --Justin I am glad to hear that your hospital has a sensible policy, Justin. However my question in my post was rhetorical. I would not rely on the last line of your post I have highlighted in red. As stated in the Firearms Concealed Carry Act, violating any of the prohibited areas listed in the FCCA is a Class B Misdemeanor, which is punishable by up to 180 days in jail and/or up to a $1500 fine. And that's just for the first offense. I wish more businesses and other prohibited areas would develop a policy such as the one you shared above. But I certainly wouldn't count on it. -- Frank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAS3987 Posted February 2, 2014 at 01:58 PM Share Posted February 2, 2014 at 01:58 PM With all these places posting, I really hope that they do not invite crime into their establishments. But history shows how gun free zones work so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb01 Posted February 2, 2014 at 08:23 PM Share Posted February 2, 2014 at 08:23 PM ADM offices in Quincy, IL - signs at every entrance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axel2078 Posted February 2, 2014 at 11:26 PM Share Posted February 2, 2014 at 11:26 PM Maybe this is a dumb question, but if every private establishment posted one of these signs, wouldn't that effectively make it illegal to carry everywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted February 2, 2014 at 11:52 PM Share Posted February 2, 2014 at 11:52 PM No, you still have your car, roads, sidewalks. Also many forest preserves, state and national parks and waterways. It would certainly put a cramp in carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+P+ Posted February 3, 2014 at 06:50 AM Share Posted February 3, 2014 at 06:50 AM I recently went to Glenview, IL for work, was driving along and saw an E-Cig place, and needing some new vape juice, I stopped. I spent about $40.00 in the store and was talking to the manager about how much of the stuff I buy to support my "habit" On my way out, I noticed that the store is posted with the correct (anti CCW) sign. I went right back in and talked with the manager again, politely telling him that I was going to be receiving my CCW permit (hopefully) soon, and if he continued to display the sign then I would not feel the same about spending my money in his store next time. He seemed very interested, and said he would talk to the owner about it. If I had a NGNM card (havent bought any yet), I would have left it. I think they are receptive to common sense, and if a few more of you use e-cig's and are in the neighborhood, it might be a good idea to stop by and check this place out as they have great flavors and products. While you're there, maybe mention the sign, and/or leave a card. http://cignew.comADDRESS: 611 MILWAUKEE AVE #101 GLENVIEW IL 60025 http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/laserred97gt/cignew_zps7a727d61.jpg Carry on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scots Posted February 3, 2014 at 01:09 PM Share Posted February 3, 2014 at 01:09 PM Caliendo's in Winfield is posted. I wouldn't be surprised if they are more than 50% alcohol sales, but I don't know for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted February 4, 2014 at 05:40 PM Share Posted February 4, 2014 at 05:40 PM Tiger DirectComputer and software vendor in Vernon Hills.Spoke with manager, he stated it was a corporate policy, but then stated all stores but Illinois were told to remove their (non-ISP) signage up.Explained training and background check procedures for here, he seemed impressed.Got info for corporate, will contact them later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBarnacles9mm Posted February 4, 2014 at 06:11 PM Share Posted February 4, 2014 at 06:11 PM My place of employment just posted today. Technically the Hospital that owns/shares the property we are located on posted it at our main entrance. I obviously was anticipating this as we are a medical facility on hospital property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannyH Posted February 5, 2014 at 03:33 AM Share Posted February 5, 2014 at 03:33 AM Had the CCW got the posted today Thanks for the best App. I have for my IPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borgranta Posted February 5, 2014 at 03:23 PM Share Posted February 5, 2014 at 03:23 PM Fannie May candy store in Rockford is posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspgundog Posted February 5, 2014 at 10:42 PM Share Posted February 5, 2014 at 10:42 PM Best Ribs one block east of Sayre on 79th, Bedford Park is posted. I stopped in to have lunch when I saw the sign. Happen to have some no guns = no cash cards with me so I went in asked for the manager and told her that I was planning on having lunch but since they had posted the sign I would not eat there that day or any other until it come down and handed her the card. She read it and did not say anything but looked at me like I had a third eye so I turned and left. I was very polite but no response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstrom99 Posted February 6, 2014 at 05:49 PM Share Posted February 6, 2014 at 05:49 PM I recently went to Glenview, IL for work, was driving along and saw an E-Cig place, and needing some new vape juice, I stopped. I spent about $40.00 in the store and was talking to the manager about how much of the stuff I buy to support my "habit" On my way out, I noticed that the store is posted with the correct (anti CCW) sign. I went right back in and talked with the manager again, politely telling him that I was going to be receiving my CCW permit (hopefully) soon, and if he continued to display the sign then I would not feel the same about spending my money in his store next time. He seemed very interested, and said he would talk to the owner about it. If I had a NGNM card (havent bought any yet), I would have left it. I think they are receptive to common sense, and if a few more of you use e-cig's and are in the neighborhood, it might be a good idea to stop by and check this place out as they have great flavors and products. While you're there, maybe mention the sign, and/or leave a card. http://cignew.com ADDRESS: 611 MILWAUKEE AVE #101 GLENVIEW IL 60025 http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c99/laserred97gt/cignew_zps7a727d61.jpg Carry on.... I think I would've turned right around and returned the stuff and got my $40 back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstrom99 Posted February 6, 2014 at 07:13 PM Share Posted February 6, 2014 at 07:13 PM I'm somewhat confused about this thread. What is to prevent any and all private establishments in your part of IL from posting these signs? Does that effectively prevent concealed carry for you? The media is constantly bashing gun owners and casting us in a negative light, so I can only foresee more of these signs going up everywhere. Nothing prevents any business from posting signage except to understand the financial repercussions from doing so. Business people understand the bottom line. Politely give them a "No Guns, No cash" card and inform them that you can do no business with them as long as the signs remain. Also inform them that their business will be put on a app that other concealed carriers in their county can search and they will avoid their business as well.A few thousand concealed carry folks in a county can make quite a hit to your bottom line, especially in the more rural counties.If somewhere is "posted" or carrying is otherwise prohibited, what are the legal repercussions (to them) if a crime/violence happens there, after they took away MY right to protect myself/family? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted February 6, 2014 at 07:31 PM Share Posted February 6, 2014 at 07:31 PM they open themselves up to a lawsuit that would have the licensee victim arguing that they disarmed him/her, did not afford armed security or metal dectors as a means of protecting patrons and thus created the dangerous enviroment that led to such injuries or death by ensuring the robber was the only one armed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted February 6, 2014 at 07:48 PM Share Posted February 6, 2014 at 07:48 PM Continental Acura in Naperville is posted. Too bad. I bought my last 2 cars there. Other than prepaid service, I won't be back. Don't have any cards, but I'm sending an e-mail to management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted February 7, 2014 at 02:45 PM Share Posted February 7, 2014 at 02:45 PM Continental Acura in Naperville is posted. Too bad. I bought my last 2 cars there. Other than prepaid service, I won't be back. Don't have any cards, but I'm sending an e-mail to management. I saw that one just get added to "Posted!". One of my family members has bought 8 cars there; I'll have to see if he wouldn't mind calling them and letting them know what it'll do to business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted February 7, 2014 at 03:19 PM Share Posted February 7, 2014 at 03:19 PM Continental Acura in Naperville is posted. Too bad. I bought my last 2 cars there. Other than prepaid service, I won't be back. Don't have any cards, but I'm sending an e-mail to management. I saw that one just get added to "Posted!". One of my family members has bought 8 cars there; I'll have to see if he wouldn't mind calling them and letting them know what it'll do to business. I added it from my iPad as I was sitting in their waiting room for my car to be serviced. I was surprised when I got there and saw the signs. Unfortunately I have prepaid servicing, so I'll use them to fulfill what I've already paid for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoTom Posted February 7, 2014 at 03:25 PM Share Posted February 7, 2014 at 03:25 PM Quigleys Irish Pub in Naperville posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverpilot Posted February 7, 2014 at 09:50 PM Share Posted February 7, 2014 at 09:50 PM they open themselves up to a lawsuit that would have the licensee victim arguing that they disarmed him/her, did not afford armed security or metal dectors as a means of protecting patrons and thus created the dangerous enviroment that led to such injuries or death by ensuring the robber was the only one armed Just curious if there is any documented suits of such? Or, rather, an actual win by the person bringing the suit? Big world, but I've never heard of any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem870 Posted February 7, 2014 at 10:53 PM Share Posted February 7, 2014 at 10:53 PM The Illinois Department of Agriculture building at the Illinois State Fairgrounds in Springfield is posted. Every door had the signage. The doors are tinted, so they are hard to see from the outside. I actually didn't notice them until I was leaving, I was not carrying though so it didn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POAT54 Posted February 8, 2014 at 12:37 AM Share Posted February 8, 2014 at 12:37 AM Flossmoor Station Restaurant1035 Sterling Ave, Flossmoor, IL Sign is on inside door (after you climb the stairs and go inside) . The place is a Brewery but most business seems to be food. Yes added to Posted app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdnshoots Posted February 8, 2014 at 04:37 PM Share Posted February 8, 2014 at 04:37 PM Wife said Aldi in Elgin posted. I thought they reversed their no carry policy in 2012 to following state law. We might shop there twice a year but will go talk to the manager sometime this week or shoot corporate an email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted February 10, 2014 at 06:17 AM Share Posted February 10, 2014 at 06:17 AM I saw 2 today that had signs saying no weapons but they weren't the legal signs. The "Just Tires" on Broadway just north of Lawrence "no weapons" sign had a revolver and none of the required language, and the Uptown Lounge around the corner had a sign on one window (not the door) with the proper circle/red slash around the Beretta but none of the required language, they had their own language instead. But I don't think they sell anything but alcohol there, weird. The Bridgeview Bank branch across the street had a legal "no guns" sign however. First one I've seen on a bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomG Posted February 10, 2014 at 02:40 PM Share Posted February 10, 2014 at 02:40 PM and the Uptown Lounge around the corner had a sign on one window (not the door) with the proper circle/red slash around the Beretta but none of the required language, they had their own language instead. But I don't think they sell anything but alcohol there, weird. Maybe that's their protest of the law. They "attempted" to comply and avoid fines, but any CCL holder will know it's not a statutory sign, so it doesn't carry the force of law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solareclipse2 Posted February 10, 2014 at 03:25 PM Share Posted February 10, 2014 at 03:25 PM South Side YMCA on 63rd and Stony Island is posted everywhere. Their signs were 4x6 and had the language but the gun was a Glock not the Beretta. Added to posted app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martho Posted February 12, 2014 at 03:29 PM Share Posted February 12, 2014 at 03:29 PM I was out in Rockford for work yesterday. I was surprised to find a traffic control sign being changed to a no Beretta sign. If you look at the picture, the sign at the end of the lane with <--> was being covered over with a solid white background. Then, the 4x6 sign was being bolted in the middle of the sign. I was driving away from the sign when I realized what I had seen and didn't get a picture. However, it was very hard to see being so small on that big sign. Forest Plaza (Simon Mall property so that explains it) between the Outback Steakhouse and Kohls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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