mauserme Posted February 22, 2014 at 07:42 PM Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 at 07:42 PM Those wanting to debate the nature of our rights can find those posts here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 22, 2014 at 07:44 PM Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 at 07:44 PM I've searched the forum and don't find any reference to this. I know that hospitals are statutorily prohibited locations but what about "animal" hospitals. I don't see anything in the act that actually defines "hospital". There are definitions for "mental health facilities" treating "people" but I didn't see anything for hospitals in general. Reason for my question is that the Orchard Road Animal Hospital in Montgomery is now a Posted location. The technician stated that the sign just went up but she wasn't really sure why. I'm going to go out on just a little bit of a limb and say veterinary offices are not within the intent of the hospital prohibition even if the word "hospital" is included in the name. They can still post voluntarily, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnbill Posted February 22, 2014 at 08:16 PM Share Posted February 22, 2014 at 08:16 PM My thoughts also. I'm hoping to get a chance to talk with the vets and find out their reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill618 Posted February 23, 2014 at 09:32 PM Share Posted February 23, 2014 at 09:32 PM This bill Illinois SB 2669 will make this thread a non issue!!! Unbelievable!!! It says no sign No CC. Property owners must post a sign that firearms are welcome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted February 23, 2014 at 09:51 PM Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 at 09:51 PM Bill, I moved your previous post over to the Spring Session Bills thread so we can better keep track of things. Don't lose hope. I don't think this one will see much movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shield Posted February 24, 2014 at 06:30 PM Share Posted February 24, 2014 at 06:30 PM Just went for an oil change and Crystal Lake Chrysler is posted. Talked to owner and he told me the police came and posted them, dam I bought my last four vehicles from them and have lifetime oil changes on my truck for $10. We talked for like fifteen minutes and he just gave me the run around salesman crap. Let him know I wouldn't be back as long as signs are up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 24, 2014 at 06:32 PM Share Posted February 24, 2014 at 06:32 PM Does it really piss anybody off except me when the government prints and hands out signs or posts them themselves in private businesses? I get it for the places required to post that are run by the government, but to do it for a business? They need to mind their own damn business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotabb Posted February 24, 2014 at 06:41 PM Share Posted February 24, 2014 at 06:41 PM Pisses me off till no end. I don't know where they get off on doing that type of crap but it needs to stop. Same with them using private property even more so during business hours of a place to set up there radar traps. Not there property to post signs or sit in either. Far as I would think that's lottering. And if you or I did it you bet your rear end you get a ticket for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shield Posted February 24, 2014 at 06:51 PM Share Posted February 24, 2014 at 06:51 PM It bothers me to no end and don't know if he is lying, but I would have to bet I would not get a true response if I called pd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurt555gs Posted February 24, 2014 at 09:12 PM Share Posted February 24, 2014 at 09:12 PM Louis Joliet Mall is posted. State approved sign. Bottom of inner entrance doors. I added this including a picture to the Posted! App. FYI the Panera Bread store has both an outside entrance and access into the mall. Neither of these are posted. Lastly, putting the GFZ signs at the bottom corner of the inner doors is not "conspicuous" in my opinion. Kurt on G+ http://goo.gl/EX4gL2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstrom99 Posted February 25, 2014 at 12:53 AM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 12:53 AM Does it really piss anybody off except me when the government prints and hands out signs or posts them themselves in private businesses? I get it for the places required to post that are run by the government, but to do it for a business? They need to mind their own damn business.If a government body is really doing that, I'd sure like to hear about it. That's crossing the line. (Like they care anymore...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarf Posted February 25, 2014 at 01:14 AM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 01:14 AM Please remove First Bankers Trust, Quincy IL (all locations). We convinced them to remove the signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted February 25, 2014 at 01:16 AM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 01:16 AM Woot! Tapa-what? Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb01 Posted February 25, 2014 at 01:56 AM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 01:56 AM Please remove First Bankers Trust, Quincy IL (all locations). We convinced them to remove the signs. Great news, I sent them a letter as I have my mortgage there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ddiver Posted February 25, 2014 at 02:08 AM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 02:08 AM This just shows that talking to people works sometimes. We had talks with them also. They may not be "anti", they might just think that they are supposed to or that their customers want them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarf Posted February 25, 2014 at 02:14 AM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 02:14 AM They (we) originally posted on advice from legal council, but reconsidered after phone calls from both customers and media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw45 Posted February 25, 2014 at 03:54 AM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 03:54 AM Unfortunately I have had to add to the posted app, signs are showing up in the last few days, some just as I was driving around (I was looking for those that needed it like local bars).Even our Post Office has been posted with an IL sign since last Thursday. Posted in Manteno (60950)BP/dunkin Donuts at division/45Shell at I-57 (southcreek Dr)- 2 gas station doors posted, but McDonalds Entrance not posted, share the same building, did not go in and see if there are signs between McD's and the Gas station side.Homestar Bank on DivisionCentrue Bank on Division All added to posted, I will be looking for more 'voluntary' posted locations, afraid I will be seeing more.We still have a few gas stations not posted, but no other banks. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpapageorgio Posted February 25, 2014 at 04:46 PM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 04:46 PM Went to Edible Arrangements in Oak Park to pickup a birthday gift I bought online. Saw the sign posted, I couldn't really back out of the transaction as I paid online to do a pickup but will be writing a email to the store as to why I won't be going to their place again. I know EA franchises so I don't know if it applies to all stores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstrom99 Posted February 25, 2014 at 05:08 PM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 05:08 PM They (we) originally posted on advice from legal council, but reconsidered after phone calls from both customers and media.What was the reason given by "legal council"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlockShooter Posted February 25, 2014 at 08:04 PM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 08:04 PM I just got back from the State Bank of the Lakes in Antioch (a Wintrust bank). Sometime between Friday and today they posted. I will add them when I get home from work. Sent from a satellite in low orbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scots Posted February 25, 2014 at 08:08 PM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 08:08 PM Caliendo's in Winfield is posted. I wouldn't be surprised if they are more than 50% alcohol sales, but I don't know for certain. By the way, Caliendo's has a separate bar from the restaurant. Do they HAVE to post the entire place - the restaurant and the bar both, or is there anything that says they could post the bar but not the restaurant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt B Posted February 25, 2014 at 08:18 PM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 08:18 PM Caliendo's in Winfield is posted. I wouldn't be surprised if they are more than 50% alcohol sales, but I don't know for certain. By the way, Caliendo's has a separate bar from the restaurant. Do they HAVE to post the entire place - the restaurant and the bar both, or is there anything that says they could post the bar but not the restaurant? Did Caliendos also post their carry out section off to the right of the main entrance? It's really a separate section separated from the bar and restaurant area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scots Posted February 25, 2014 at 08:18 PM Share Posted February 25, 2014 at 08:18 PM If memory serves correctly, yes, they posted the bar, the restaurant, and the carryout entrances all. I will look when I drive past it on my way home today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scots Posted February 26, 2014 at 12:09 AM Share Posted February 26, 2014 at 12:09 AM Correction - the takeout door is NOT posted. But the restaurant and bar doors both are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snarf Posted February 26, 2014 at 02:42 AM Share Posted February 26, 2014 at 02:42 AM Legal council thought that our insurance premiums would go up if we didn't post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asfried1 Posted February 26, 2014 at 02:45 AM Share Posted February 26, 2014 at 02:45 AM Legal council thought that our insurance premiums would go up if we didn't post. Did anyone think to ask the actual insurance company? The actuaries don't have a political dog in this fight. They just try to manage risk. If there is no risk to not posting a sign there won't be a rate increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erno Posted February 26, 2014 at 03:34 AM Share Posted February 26, 2014 at 03:34 AM Buffalo Wild Wings in Woodridge on Route 53 has a non-compliant no firearms sign. I stopped in and gave a NGNM card to the gal and explained that the sign will accomplish two things, 1. It turns the restaurant into a kill zone and 2. It will keep law abiding, responsible customers like me from spending my money in their establishment. I asked her to please give the card to the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted February 26, 2014 at 01:28 PM Share Posted February 26, 2014 at 01:28 PM Buffalo Wild Wings in Woodridge on Route 53 has a non-compliant no firearms sign. I stopped in and gave a NGNM card to the gal and explained that the sign will accomplish two things, 1. It turns the restaurant into a kill zone and 2. It will keep law abiding, responsible customers like me from spending my money in their establishment. I asked her to please give the card to the manager. At least you did not mention that it was non-compliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impostor71 Posted February 26, 2014 at 04:38 PM Share Posted February 26, 2014 at 04:38 PM These signs means no CC and no transporting of a firearm right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt B Posted February 26, 2014 at 04:46 PM Share Posted February 26, 2014 at 04:46 PM Correction - the takeout door is NOT posted. But the restaurant and bar doors both are. Well maybe I can at least carry when I pick up a pizza! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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