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#1 DinDin

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 09:00 AM

More taxes, more freeloaders, fewer rights, newly minted rap sheet. We've just devolved. I've contemplated a move to WI for some time, but it seems they are beginning the slide too. Seriously, which direction North or East? Thanks for your informed opinions. 



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 09:13 AM

Why not consider other nearby gun friendly states such as Missouri and Tennessee also? I keep recalling quote from the "Bob Lee Swagger" character from the film Shooter, who says this notable quote:

 

"Welcome to Tennessee, patron state of shootin' stuff!" 



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 10:02 AM

When it comes to suggested States for leaving Illinois permanently? I'd say "Yes", with a few obvious exceptions like CA, NJ and NY


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 10:29 AM

With the Democrats now in control of  both house and  the governors mansion, I too am now looking to relocate, probably somewhere over the State line in Indians. Pritzger has made it very clear as to what he wants to do regarding Second Amdt and there is now nothing we can realistically do to stop it. I am too old and the shooting sports have been a part of my life for too long to live here much longer. Any indiana realtors here? 



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 10:35 AM

Indiana.  Wisconsin just went full retard.  

 

Indiana is one of the few states left where it's not changing any time soon.  


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 10:53 AM

Tennessee is looking better too me all the time

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 11:08 AM

You can always move to Arizona :)


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 12:46 PM

Indiana if you need to stay near, Tennessee if not.   We moved to Lake county Indiana  several years ago and like it much better than Illinois.   Sadly, Lake county is solid 2/3 Dem.  My daughter and family moved to Texas two years ago and she mentioned if Texas goes blue they will look at Tennessee.

 

I have a good friend who moved to Tennessee several years ago and loves it.



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 12:53 PM

Been thinking the same also. Indiana would be the haven for me as it is close to the kids and grandbabies.



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 01:05 PM

Out of the two states you inquired about, I'd clearly choose Indiana. Free state and seems to be 2A strong. While I certainly love the beauty of Wisconsin, there are many pockets of the state with large populations that are ultra anti 2A and far left progressives. Heck, a guy I worked with for 25 years who was 100% conservative moved to Madison to open a new business. We're still great friends, however, truth be told, I hardly recognize him when we chat on the phone. He's been completely converted to an anti 2A and even worse, an outright progressive. But hey, if we were all the same, it'd be a pretty boring world. Like I said, we're still great friends, and will be until we die. We just see things differently. That's the beauty of living in a free country. 



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 02:52 PM

Move south. Taxes are way too high in Wisconsin and it's always in danger of going blue. Indiana doesn't really have anything great.

Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, or West Virginia. In WV the Dem's are actually tolerable, I went to a recently opened free to the public shooting range that had Joe Manchin at its opening ceremony.

Even further but Georgia is very 2a friendly as well and has a lot of other stuff going for it.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 03:32 PM

I am really enjoying Ohio.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 04:09 PM

Missouri has chiggers, and I can't stand chiggers.

 

For the last 15 years I've been working downtown with people who fled to Indiana decades ago.

 

Indiana seems to be the way to go.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 05:05 PM

What about Iowa? While we're discussing the surrounding states, what's some opinions on Iowa? That's not a far move for me, and I have friends in Savanna. 



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Posted 10 November 2018 - 06:26 PM

Tennessee is looking better too me all the time

Been here a couple months, and it's really looking good to me!  Nashville and Memphis tried to screw things up, but Dems only gained 1 seat in the state legislature, and got kicked just about everywhere in the state.  Maybe the legislature is now down to 80% or so Republican. 


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 06:27 PM

Indiana is a great state to consider moving to. Very strong on 2A. I'd move back there myself (I'm from Warsaw). But with working at Scott AFB, I'll be heading to Missouri.

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 08:04 PM

I am really enjoying Ohio.


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Posted 10 November 2018 - 09:20 PM

And with Indiana, last time I checked once yiu get your carry permit it's lifetime (may have changed last year) and you can open carry too (if that's your thing).

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Posted 10 November 2018 - 09:42 PM

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 07:28 PM

Missouri has chiggers, and I can't stand chiggers..
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Posted 11 November 2018 - 08:11 PM

What about Iowa? While we're discussing the surrounding states, what's some opinions on Iowa? That's not a far move for me, and I have friends in Savanna.


I always heard Iowa was marginal for shooters. Is that true?

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Posted 11 November 2018 - 09:28 PM

 

What about Iowa? While we're discussing the surrounding states, what's some opinions on Iowa? That's not a far move for me, and I have friends in Savanna.


I always heard Iowa was marginal for shooters. Is that true?

 

 

Years ago, being able to get a carry permit depended on the mindset of your county Sheriff, who had the power to not issue.  I believe that all changed before Illinois had carry. I used to check in periodically at IowaCarry. It's been awhile...


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Posted 12 November 2018 - 01:06 AM

South man, at least get some better weather out of it.


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Posted 12 November 2018 - 06:50 AM

IIRC to buy a handgun in Iowa you first have to buy a permit to buy a handgun from the sheriff.
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Posted 12 November 2018 - 06:59 AM

I lived in Missouri about 20 years ago.  Kick myself regularly that I moved back to IL.  If the time comes to relocate, I am looking more at southern Tennessee. I figure if I am going to leave, I might as well drive a little farther than the area I lived in Missouri, and get a little shorter winter.



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Posted 12 November 2018 - 07:07 AM

IIRC to buy a handgun in Iowa you first have to buy a permit to buy a handgun from the sheriff.

 

There may be new rules in 2017... this sounds similar to a FOID.

The application has FOID like questions but you obtain one from your County Sheriff. Must have valid state ID and $25.

 

In Iowa, no handgun may be transferred until the transferee obtains a five-year permit to acquire a handgun, which becomes valid three days after the date of application. After the permit is issued, the holder may purchase additional handguns without a waiting period for five years (the duration of the permit).Sep 13, 2018

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Posted 12 November 2018 - 05:22 PM

IIRC to buy a handgun in Iowa you first have to buy a permit to buy a handgun from the sheriff.

 
There may be new rules in 2017... this sounds similar to a FOID.
The application has FOID like questions but you obtain one from your County Sheriff. Must have valid state ID and $25.
 
In Iowa, no handgun may be transferred until the transferee obtains a five-year permit to acquire a handgun, which becomes valid three days after the date of application. After the permit is issued, the holder may purchase additional handguns without a waiting period for five years (the duration of the permit).Sep 13, 2018

But their CCL waives this. It looks like they have really cleaned up their laws in the last few years - first shall issue, then preemption and now SBRs. Iowa is on my short list, at least I wouldn’t have to drive around the bottom of the lake.

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Posted 21 November 2018 - 10:08 AM

We are not in a position to move.  The only thing I got going for me is I live about 5 miles from Missouri.  I would rent a storage space over there if I had to.  Plus, I live in a sanctuary county.  Don't know if that will help, though.  Chicago politics sucks pond water.



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Posted 21 November 2018 - 03:39 PM

If we weren't in a position of needing to stay here for about ten more years, we'd be heading to Tennessee or southern Indiana..



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Posted 24 November 2018 - 09:28 PM

Check out Post #68 on Page 3.  http://illinoiscarry...=3#entry1182558

 

There are 4 links there that might help in deciding where to go.

 

Also, remember that both AZ and WY are OC although WY is for "residents only" last I heard.  If you can stand the heat of southern AZ and don't mind having to learn a second language, it has a lot of amenities.  Northern AZ is pretty cold and barren, as is a good portion of WY.

 

As for state sales taxes, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Tennessee seem to be dancing around each other to see who can be the highest.  Over the last three years that I have checked, those three have alternated being #1 - #3 for the highest taxes.


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