Vodoun da Vinci Posted October 2, 2023 at 05:28 PM Share Posted October 2, 2023 at 05:28 PM Perhaps so....we'll see. VooDoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted October 2, 2023 at 06:26 PM Share Posted October 2, 2023 at 06:26 PM On 10/2/2023 at 12:28 PM, Vodoun da Vinci said: Perhaps so....we'll see. VooDoo I believe VooDoo is correct. They are going to want to make examples out of people to show the law is working. Especially after only a tiny percentage of people register their stuff. If IL gets away with the 5th amendment violation, they'll amend the FOID act to require us to waive our 4th amendment rights to privacy to obtain a FOID so that police can do random compliance searches. It is time for people to stop assuming this was done out of stupidity or ignorance. Time for people to realize that this was all done because they have terrible intentions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitter Clinger Posted October 2, 2023 at 06:34 PM Share Posted October 2, 2023 at 06:34 PM This whole thing is ridiculous. How long until they ban my King James bible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty425 Posted October 2, 2023 at 06:47 PM Share Posted October 2, 2023 at 06:47 PM On 10/2/2023 at 1:34 PM, Bitter Clinger said: This whole thing is ridiculous. How long until they ban my King James bible? Probably sooner than you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted October 3, 2023 at 01:58 AM Share Posted October 3, 2023 at 01:58 AM On 10/2/2023 at 12:22 PM, Tip said: Never attribute to deliberate actions or intent that which is easily explained by ignorance or stupidity. Methinks you are reading way more intent into this than is actually there. This law was drafted by those completely ignorant of the subject matter and it clearly shows. If this law was written by Illinois’ leadership in a vacuum, I’d side with you as many of are truly “a special kind of stupid”. However, it seems as if the law was built on a foundation carefully crafted by the gun ban groups and then somewhat obfuscated by the ignorant rulers in IL who choose to dictate to us. I cannot assume ignorance from the “control” groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yurimodin Posted October 3, 2023 at 02:42 PM Share Posted October 3, 2023 at 02:42 PM If anything trying to make examples will just expedite the court's overthrow. As it stands the precedent is that the southern district HAS ruled this unconstitutional but Eastercrook just threw a wrench into the injunction while the state appeals. Also remember the 11th Commandment "Thou shalt not ask gubmint employee to do more work". Best part about most of these modern communists is that they are lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max503 Posted October 4, 2023 at 01:42 PM Share Posted October 4, 2023 at 01:42 PM Can the barrel shroud be removed from a Mini-14 and thus take it off the banned list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted October 4, 2023 at 01:51 PM Share Posted October 4, 2023 at 01:51 PM On 10/2/2023 at 1:34 PM, Bitter Clinger said: This whole thing is ridiculous. How long until they ban my King James bible? The will just replace the KJV with a modified Message Bible written by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yas Posted October 4, 2023 at 04:21 PM Share Posted October 4, 2023 at 04:21 PM GSL announced Quote We’re told that on or about December 5th, the governor will announce a 78% compliance rate to the gun registration scheme currently underway in the Land of Lincoln. He’ll urge the remaining gun owners to go ahead and register their guns before the end of the year. Folks, it’s all just be a bald-faced lie. At that point it will all be about psychological operations to coax gun owners to register their guns, mags and accessories. “Peer pressure” in simpler terms. https://www.gunssavelife.com/2023/10/04/coming-on-or-about-december-5-gov-pritzker-78-compliance-rate-on-gun-registration/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted October 4, 2023 at 04:44 PM Share Posted October 4, 2023 at 04:44 PM On 10/4/2023 at 11:21 AM, Yas said: GSL announced https://www.gunssavelife.com/2023/10/04/coming-on-or-about-december-5-gov-pritzker-78-compliance-rate-on-gun-registration/ This wouldn’t surprise me coming from the round governor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanook Posted October 4, 2023 at 04:47 PM Share Posted October 4, 2023 at 04:47 PM Ex Post Facto means nothing to these people. It's amazing that a congress at both levels, filled with lawyers, ignore the constitution as freely as they do. Things made illegal by the stroke of a pen, that were legal for decades. Meanwhile, criminals can't be forced to register, since it would make them bear witness against themselves. But regular, completely legal gun owners, line up and sign up, citizen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbore Posted October 4, 2023 at 05:20 PM Share Posted October 4, 2023 at 05:20 PM On 10/4/2023 at 11:44 AM, Jeffrey said: This wouldn’t surprise me coming from the round governor. I think this would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted October 4, 2023 at 07:29 PM Share Posted October 4, 2023 at 07:29 PM On 10/4/2023 at 11:21 AM, Yas said: GSL announced https://www.gunssavelife.com/2023/10/04/coming-on-or-about-december-5-gov-pritzker-78-compliance-rate-on-gun-registration/ Their "sources" in JB's inner circle? False flag operators maybe. I seriously doubt that the 2A side has a mole in JB's inner circle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted October 4, 2023 at 09:24 PM Share Posted October 4, 2023 at 09:24 PM Considering the ATF only got 8% by giving away $200 tax stamps this would make JB quite the leader. We shall have no choice but to promote him to el presidente. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted October 4, 2023 at 10:57 PM Share Posted October 4, 2023 at 10:57 PM Well, they've got a budget for social media indoctrination... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted October 5, 2023 at 02:36 AM Share Posted October 5, 2023 at 02:36 AM On 10/4/2023 at 5:57 PM, Tango7 said: Well, they've got a budget for social media indoctrination... I'm going to log in to FB for the first time in a year just to read the comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted October 5, 2023 at 11:25 AM Share Posted October 5, 2023 at 11:25 AM On 10/4/2023 at 9:36 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said: I'm going to log in to FB for the first time in a year just to read the comments. I just skimmed through them. I only saw one in favor, calling everyone commenting cry baby snowflakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukemason Posted October 5, 2023 at 03:22 PM Share Posted October 5, 2023 at 03:22 PM Does anyone know what accessories they expect people to register? Flash hiders, stocks, grips, spare parts/barrels? The law offers no examples, from what I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumak_from_arfcom Posted October 5, 2023 at 04:22 PM Share Posted October 5, 2023 at 04:22 PM On 10/5/2023 at 10:22 AM, dukemason said: Does anyone know what accessories they expect people to register? Flash hiders, stocks, grips, spare parts/barrels? The law offers no examples, from what I can tell. All of the above, stripped lowers, uppers, charging handles - pretty much anything that can be used to build a rifle. I'd even include backup iron sights in that. Some people are saying banned mags need to be registered, but the ISP website Q/A page for PICA states they do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted October 5, 2023 at 05:16 PM Share Posted October 5, 2023 at 05:16 PM We need to come up with a way to quickly reference the various laws within threads. It's so painful to go look them up every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted October 12, 2023 at 10:13 PM Share Posted October 12, 2023 at 10:13 PM On 10/5/2023 at 12:16 PM, davel501 said: We need to come up with a way to quickly reference the various laws within threads. It's so painful to go look them up every time. For the "Misleading sheep into thinking Illinois is Protected" act? https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/102/PDF/102-1116.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max503 Posted October 25, 2023 at 07:40 PM Share Posted October 25, 2023 at 07:40 PM Watch the opening of Schindler's List, keeping this gun registration thing in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard Roark Posted October 27, 2023 at 01:03 AM Share Posted October 27, 2023 at 01:03 AM On 10/2/2023 at 1:26 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said: If IL gets away with the 5th amendment violation, they'll amend the FOID act to require us to waive our 4th amendment rights to privacy to obtain a FOID so that police can do random compliance searches. I am quite sure your prediction is correct. Other possible enhancements to the IL Donks gun control regime could be an annual fine of $200 per registered banned gun. And a transportation ban so banned guns cannot be taken to the range. And simultaneous possession of ammo for the gun to be a felony. They will likely amend and enhance the statute to say banned guns can no longer be passed by inheritance to anyone. They will make it a felony to sell banned guns out of state. They will certainly publish the names and addresses of everyone who registers. They will make possession even in the home of mags over 10 rounds a felony like in California thus forcing people to modify and block existing mags. They will make it a felony to attempt to purchase 5.56 233 ammo unless you are law enforcement or retired Leo. They will do civil asset forfeiture to take the home owned where they find an unregistered banned gun. They will change the criminal penalty for a first offense to a mandatory 3 year prison sentence. They would enjoy total destruction of any person caught with an unregistered banned gun. Really, the sky is the limit with the gun hating Donks in Springfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RECarry Posted October 27, 2023 at 01:27 AM Share Posted October 27, 2023 at 01:27 AM Who are the sociopaths we need to be concerned about? The ones who seek to control every aspect of our lives and who relish endless emergency powers, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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