029416 Posted November 22, 2022 at 10:09 PM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 10:09 PM Goofy question... I renewed my CCL and received the card back in 11/2021, before they started changing cards and combining things. I'm pretty sure I never received an updated FOID card with the same expiration as my CCL, even though they are supposed to be synced. I was cleaning out my wallet and noticed that my FOID card expires 11/2022 while my CCL card expires 02/2026. When I login to the ISP portal, everything is fine; my CCL and FOID both expire 02/2026. I can print an eCard which has all the correct information on it. Should I contact ISP to see if I can receive an updated combined card, as I only have an expired official old-style FOID card? Should ISP be automatically sending updated cards out? Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
029416 Posted November 22, 2022 at 10:26 PM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 10:26 PM (edited) On 11/22/2022 at 4:09 PM, 029416 said: Goofy question... I renewed my CCL and received the card back in 11/2021, before they started changing cards and combining things. I'm pretty sure I never received an updated FOID card with the same expiration as my CCL, even though they are supposed to be synced. I was cleaning out my wallet and noticed that my FOID card expires 11/2022 while my CCL card expires 02/2026. When I login to the ISP portal, everything is fine; my CCL and FOID both expire 02/2026. I can print an eCard which has all the correct information on it. Should I contact ISP to see if I can receive an updated combined card, as I only have an expired official old-style FOID card? Should ISP be automatically sending updated cards out? Thank You! I went through the 10 pages of the thread so if anybody is looking for an answer... From what I can gather, it sounds like ISP should send you an updated combined FOID and CCL card in the mail. I don't recall seeing one, but I have to check with the wife. In the mean time, it sounds like you can carry the CCL and the FOID eCard and it should be good enough. Edited November 22, 2022 at 10:27 PM by 029416 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeper13 Posted November 22, 2022 at 10:59 PM Share Posted November 22, 2022 at 10:59 PM ISP sent out an email explaining that you will get an all in one card. Check your spam folder. I know a few that have received the email and the card showed up a few weeks later. I would print out anything you can from the ISP and keep it on you. I would also contact ISP. We know they never make mistakes..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanook Posted December 13, 2022 at 04:21 PM Share Posted December 13, 2022 at 04:21 PM I just received my new card with the extended date for the FOID. They sent a letter first a few months ago stating the extended date for the FOID. Then another letter telling me to expect the new card in the 'next few days'. The new card showed up late last week, Friday I believe. Since my original card showed expired since earlier this year, I didn't know what to expect if I tried to purchase a gun. It so happened that I didn't try in that timeframe. The local dealer I usually buy from was aware of the extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinelgin Posted December 15, 2022 at 12:14 AM Share Posted December 15, 2022 at 12:14 AM Just got my all-in-one card last Saturday. Got the letter telling me to expect it about 3 days later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymond963 Posted December 15, 2022 at 01:24 AM Share Posted December 15, 2022 at 01:24 AM On 12/14/2022 at 7:14 PM, jackinelgin said: Just got my all-in-one card last Saturday. Got the letter telling me to expect it about 3 days later. Wow! Now they have a time warp! They must be using J(elly) B(elly) Prikzter's gravity well to bend space-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted December 15, 2022 at 05:10 AM Share Posted December 15, 2022 at 05:10 AM I have 5 years left on my FOID and around 18 months on my CCL. I just got a letter essentially calling me a scofflaw and telling me to expect a combined card in a few days. Uhm ... "yay." Not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkye Posted December 18, 2022 at 02:52 AM Share Posted December 18, 2022 at 02:52 AM I think what should be done is fight fire with fire. There was a big deal made of State police not confiscating FOID cards from convicted Felons, and them being able to use them to buy Ammo. This is basically the same problem with no expiration date on FOID cards, at face they can be used after expired. I would think the Anti gun nuts would be in a tizzy if they knew this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted December 18, 2022 at 03:29 AM Share Posted December 18, 2022 at 03:29 AM On 12/17/2022 at 9:52 PM, Sparkye said: I think what should be done is fight fire with fire. There was a big deal made of State police not confiscating FOID cards from convicted Felons, and them being able to use them to buy Ammo. This is basically the same problem with no expiration date on FOID cards, at face they can be used after expired. I would think the Anti gun nuts would be in a tizzy if they knew this. They're not supposed to be used at all without checking their status online first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmart Posted December 18, 2022 at 05:43 AM Share Posted December 18, 2022 at 05:43 AM Wait until they stop notifying you that you need to renew and put the full responsibility on you. You don't realize you're up for renewal, it lapses, and then they're knocking on your door to confiscate your property. Anyone having any issues with retailers refusing to sell ammo because they can't quickly see that your FOID is still current? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max503 Posted December 5, 2023 at 10:32 PM Share Posted December 5, 2023 at 10:32 PM (edited) Eleven pages to say the government pulled a fast one on us. No more visual verification to determine if a FOID card is valid. All verification will be tracked electronically by Big Brother. Now you see why Big Brother cut down on the number of FFL's in Illinois? Edited December 5, 2023 at 10:36 PM by max503 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMAC Posted January 18, 2024 at 12:19 AM Share Posted January 18, 2024 at 12:19 AM So, kind of reviving an old thread. My FOID is one without an expiration date. The other day I purchased a gun online, talked with the vendor, went to my FFL and filled out the paperwork. No problems. Then while at home yesterday evening, I get a text from 59138 which states "Your FOID license expiration date has been extended due to your recent firearm purchase. Please login to your dashboard to see your new expiration date." I thought that was a bid odd, no where does it say anything about the ISP, just says from the afore mentioned 59138. I haven't logged in the ISP website to view my "new" expiration date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 18, 2024 at 12:32 AM Share Posted January 18, 2024 at 12:32 AM On 1/17/2024 at 6:19 PM, BMAC said: So, kind of reviving an old thread. My FOID is one without an expiration date. The other day I purchased a gun online, talked with the vendor, went to my FFL and filled out the paperwork. No problems. Then while at home yesterday evening, I get a text from 59138 which states "Your FOID license expiration date has been extended due to your recent firearm purchase. Please login to your dashboard to see your new expiration date." I thought that was a bid odd, no where does it say anything about the ISP, just says from the afore mentioned 59138. I haven't logged in the ISP website to view my "new" expiration date. They will also send an email and a letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted January 18, 2024 at 12:52 AM Share Posted January 18, 2024 at 12:52 AM On 1/17/2024 at 6:19 PM, BMAC said: I haven't logged in the ISP website to view my "new" expiration date. Your new expiration date should be 10 years after the date of your most recent purchase. You should check online to be sure. Cheers, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunuser17 Posted January 18, 2024 at 05:18 AM Share Posted January 18, 2024 at 05:18 AM I made a purchase about two months ago. FOID expiration date has not updated and I have not received any email or letter or any other type of message. I do have a pending CCL renewal that was filed after the purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchet Posted January 18, 2024 at 12:07 PM Share Posted January 18, 2024 at 12:07 PM On 1/17/2024 at 11:18 PM, gunuser17 said: I made a purchase about two months ago. FOID expiration date has not updated and I have not received any email or letter or any other type of message. I do have a pending CCL renewal that was filed after the purchase. Do you have finger prints on file? The auto renewal with gun purchase is only if you fingerprints on file with the ISP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davel501 Posted January 18, 2024 at 08:14 PM Share Posted January 18, 2024 at 08:14 PM (edited) Correction. ISP did not send me a letter. They sent me a letter with a brand new copy of my FOID with CCL endorsement. Now to tell the wife that I have to buy a lot of guns to teach the state a lesson. I wonder how much it costs to send each of those cards...gotta at least get the money back I spent on infringements like prints, and training classes. Edited January 18, 2024 at 09:16 PM by davel501 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunuser17 Posted January 18, 2024 at 09:02 PM Share Posted January 18, 2024 at 09:02 PM Good catch. I had forgotten that the only fingerprint submission I had made was in another state for that state police and an FBI background check in relation to a non firearm licensing procedure. So I believe that state and the FBI have my fingerprints but not Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcreek Posted March 1, 2024 at 08:46 PM Share Posted March 1, 2024 at 08:46 PM My FOID and CCL both expire same date in may 2024. I took renewal class and went on the portal. There was a renew button for FOID and another for CCL. I completed the CCL application and now there is no renew FOID button. do I NOT have to renew FOID now that I completed the CCW renewal? I can’t find any answer anywhere and my renewal instructor told me I still have to renew FOID. this is crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDUC10 Posted March 1, 2024 at 08:52 PM Share Posted March 1, 2024 at 08:52 PM I just renewed my CCL in February. My FOID expiration moved to 10 years from the CCL renewal approval date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted March 1, 2024 at 09:34 PM Share Posted March 1, 2024 at 09:34 PM Renewing a CCL renews a FOID "for free." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcreek Posted March 2, 2024 at 12:49 AM Share Posted March 2, 2024 at 12:49 AM On 3/1/2024 at 2:52 PM, HDUC10 said: On 3/1/2024 at 3:34 PM, Euler said: Renewing a CCL renews a FOID "for free." So I don’t have to do anything else if I completed the CCL? I looked at all the FAQs on the ISP portal and found NO answers. So I clicked the link to contact them and submitted my question. Immediately got an auto reply saying “we have limited staff to respond to inquiries. Please refer to our FAQ page.” smfh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted March 2, 2024 at 01:57 AM Share Posted March 2, 2024 at 01:57 AM As long as your CCL is renewed before your FOID expires, you're good. If the FOID expires before the CCL is renewed, there could be trouble. You have until May, so it should work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted March 2, 2024 at 02:39 AM Share Posted March 2, 2024 at 02:39 AM On 3/1/2024 at 7:57 PM, Euler said: If the FOID expires before the CCL is renewed, there could be trouble. You have until May, so it should work out. 430 ILCS 65 (c) If the Firearm Owner's Identification Card of a licensee under the Firearm Concealed Carry Act expires during the term of the licensee's concealed carry license, the Firearm Owner's Identification Card and the license remain valid and the licensee does not have to renew his or her Firearm Owner's Identification Card during the duration of the concealed carry license. Unless the Illinois State Police has reason to believe the licensee is no longer eligible for the card, the Illinois State Police may automatically renew the licensee's Firearm Owner's Identification Card and send a renewed Firearm Owner's Identification Card to the licensee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted March 2, 2024 at 02:40 AM Share Posted March 2, 2024 at 02:40 AM That should have been 430 ILCS 65/5 (C) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted March 2, 2024 at 04:10 AM Share Posted March 2, 2024 at 04:10 AM That's the condition that updates the FOID expiration date to coincide with the CCL expiration date. Renewal of the CCL is a separate condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcreek Posted March 2, 2024 at 01:32 PM Share Posted March 2, 2024 at 01:32 PM On 3/1/2024 at 3:34 PM, Euler said: Renewing a CCL renews a FOID "for free." Thanks. So completing the renewal for CCL satisfies the FOID renewal process and fee. that was my first assumption since the FOID renewal button disappeared from the portal. But being Illinois, I hate to assume anything would work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted March 2, 2024 at 01:48 PM Share Posted March 2, 2024 at 01:48 PM On 3/2/2024 at 7:32 AM, Kingcreek said: Thanks. So completing the renewal for CCL satisfies the FOID renewal process and fee. that was my first assumption since the FOID renewal button disappeared from the portal. But being Illinois, I hate to assume anything would work like that. Not really a bonus but if you submitted fingerprints with your CCL application, they top your FOID up to 10 years every time you buy a gun through an FFL. Cheers, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingcreek Posted March 2, 2024 at 02:42 PM Share Posted March 2, 2024 at 02:42 PM No prints. And why would that matter to the FOID term anyway? Fingerprints don’t change. And why add 10 years of permission every time you buy a gun? is that law or isp policy? my FOID and CCL exp dates are the same since my last renewal 5 years ago. 5 years from now, I will probably be a resident of another state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Q Public Posted March 2, 2024 at 07:02 PM Share Posted March 2, 2024 at 07:02 PM On 3/2/2024 at 8:42 AM, Kingcreek said: No prints. And why would that matter to the FOID term anyway? Fingerprints don’t change. And why add 10 years of permission every time you buy a gun? is that law or isp policy? my FOID and CCL exp dates are the same since my last renewal 5 years ago. 5 years from now, I will probably be a resident of another state. Fingerprints do change over time, a lot depends on the work you do. When I was doing bodywork I had none! lol Makes holding a glass with sweat hard to do. Anyway this wasn't your point I know.... The 10 year extension is a bonus for having your prints in file as is the free renewal. Yes, it is policy. If you don't have fingerprints on file, you need to renew your FOID before it expires, or your CCL with be invalidated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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