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#1 mikew

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:43 PM

https://dailyillini....s-gun-problems/

America needs to resolve its gun problems

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The NRA and its affiliates are incredible at crafting arguments aimed to radicalize. They combine manipulated statistics difficult to directly disprove, instigatory language painting gun owners as an oppressed class desperately fighting for basic rights and fear-mongering morphing “far-left” legislators and illegal immigrants into the perfect monster under the bed.

 

What does the NRA gain from radicalizing these people? It’s fairly simple. It constantly reinforces two key ideas: The government wants to take away your guns, and it’s letting in violent criminals who are heck-bent on attacking you, specifically. This pushes the NRA’s bases to buy more firearms, and faster.



#2 steveTA84

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:58 PM

Yet the NRA isn’t the ones trying to ban AR’s and criminalize their ownership........

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:01 PM

https://dailyillini....s-gun-problems/

America needs to resolve its gun problems

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The NRA and its affiliates are incredible at crafting arguments aimed to radicalize. They combine manipulated statistics difficult to directly disprove, instigatory language painting gun owners as an oppressed class desperately fighting for basic rights and fear-mongering morphing “far-left” legislators and illegal immigrants into the perfect monster under the bed.

 

What does the NRA gain from radicalizing these people? It’s fairly simple. It constantly reinforces two key ideas: The government wants to take away your guns, and it’s letting in violent criminals who are heck-bent on attacking you, specifically. This pushes the NRA’s bases to buy more firearms, and faster.

 

Hmm.  Back when I was at UIUC, they referred to it as the "Daily Idiot".


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:13 PM

 

https://dailyillini....s-gun-problems/

America needs to resolve its gun problems

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The NRA and its affiliates are incredible at crafting arguments aimed to radicalize. They combine manipulated statistics difficult to directly disprove, instigatory language painting gun owners as an oppressed class desperately fighting for basic rights and fear-mongering morphing “far-left” legislators and illegal immigrants into the perfect monster under the bed.

 

What does the NRA gain from radicalizing these people? It’s fairly simple. It constantly reinforces two key ideas: The government wants to take away your guns, and it’s letting in violent criminals who are heck-bent on attacking you, specifically. This pushes the NRA’s bases to buy more firearms, and faster.

 

Hmm.  Back when I was at UIUC, they referred to it as the "Daily Idiot".

 

 

 

They did?  Somehow, it's nice to know that some traditions carry on over time. Is this the same 'kollich edjeked idjit' that will write how the earth is really flat next issue?



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Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:18 PM

Yeah I just left a nice comment on their fb page. SJW pos.



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Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:22 PM

Hmm

 

Modern journalists are opinionated morons that pass off opinion as fake news, even to the point of fabricating stories, sources, framing pictures for a narrative.

 

I can't imagine what that makes a STUDENT journalist.


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:29 PM

An educated person would know this is false:

“ There’s an example of the massive flaw in our system right here in Illinois. While Chicago has relatively strict gun regulations, those looking to buy a gun can pop over to Indiana and purchase a gun at a gun show — a purchase which will be entirely legal, go unrecorded and require no background check. They can then just drive that gun back into the city. “

No, it would not be “ entirely legal “. Yet he gets to print this.

The kid is a sophomore and if he is this uneducated, he should never graduate.

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:51 PM

An educated person would know this is false:
“ There’s an example of the massive flaw in our system right here in Illinois. While Chicago has relatively strict gun regulations, those looking to buy a gun can pop over to Indiana and purchase a gun at a gun show — a purchase which will be entirely legal, go unrecorded and require no background check. They can then just drive that gun back into the city. “
No, it would not be “ entirely legal “. Yet he gets to print this.
The kid is a sophomore and if he is this uneducated, he should never graduate.


Read the comment section ;)

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:52 PM

"Large donors with political interests such as the Koch brothers and conservative super PACs also contribute heavily, giving the NRA an edge over gun control groups that seek to raise grassroots funding. "

 

ROTFLMA

 

I mposted a few comments


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:55 PM

An educated person would know this is false:
“ There’s an example of the massive flaw in our system right here in Illinois. While Chicago has relatively strict gun regulations, those looking to buy a gun can pop over to Indiana and purchase a gun at a gun show — a purchase which will be entirely legal, go unrecorded and require no background check. They can then just drive that gun back into the city. “
No, it would not be “ entirely legal “. Yet he gets to print this.
The kid is a sophomore and if he is this uneducated, he should never graduate.


Read the comment section ;)

I thought that was you.

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Posted 16 April 2019 - 02:03 PM

No, it would not be "entirely legal". Yet he gets to print this.


Anti-2As regularly conflate FFL transfers, F2F transfers, and gun shows to create imaginary "legality." Some of them probably do it on purpose, but I suspect most of them just don't care enough to know.
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Posted 16 April 2019 - 02:05 PM

Comment sections never seem to disappoint. 


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 03:14 PM

Hmm

 

Modern journalists are opinionated morons that pass off opinion as fake news, even to the point of fabricating stories, sources, framing pictures for a narrative.

 

I can't imagine what that makes a STUDENT journalist.

 

 

Better stated

 

Opinon bloggers that pretend to be journalists are morons that try and pass off thier opinions as real news, generally fabricating stories, sources, framing pictures for a narrative they desire to push.


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 03:32 PM

Comment sections never seem to disappoint. 

I miss comments in the Trib.



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Posted 16 April 2019 - 07:11 PM

LWW's are radicalizing other LWW's. 


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Posted 16 April 2019 - 08:51 PM

Check the author's finances for grants from the anti organizations.

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Posted 17 April 2019 - 09:18 AM

Gun grabbers are radicalizing other gun grabbers.


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 10:10 AM

The kid has it all wrong!  I quit the NRA because they weren't radical enough and joined the GOA.  Wait till the little snowflake discovers them!    :rofl:


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Posted 17 April 2019 - 10:21 AM

Check the author's finances for grants from the anti organizations.

Why look?
Just read the titles from the last year's worth of columns.

 My bet is $0



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Posted 17 April 2019 - 10:55 AM

Just another zit faced punk trying to get a hottie.



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Posted 17 April 2019 - 11:05 PM

Just another zit faced punk trying to get a hottie.


Author is female.

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 06:49 AM

Just another zit faced punk trying to get a hottie.Author is female.

And?

She can't want a hottie?

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 03:50 PM

I love the standard liberal response "but this is an OPINION piece!", new flash idiot, ALL news 'articles' are opinion pieces, just because you put it in the 'opinion' section doesn't mean people won't read it and be misinformed.



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Posted 18 April 2019 - 03:58 PM

Kaeghl, I borrowed your 'kollich edjeked idjit' to use in a post on the articles site.

 

And Cybermgk, I read all the posts and upped most of them, esp. yours.  However, if you can, you might want to go edit one where you had some typos.  The one from 2 days ago to "Sigiloso".


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Posted 18 April 2019 - 04:12 PM

ˆˆˆˆˆˆWhat?
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Posted 26 April 2019 - 06:24 AM

UIUC Alumni commentator:

Kid, go take some history classes and then come spend some time in the real world

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Posted 26 April 2019 - 06:47 AM

More proof that universities have become LWW indoctrination centers. 


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Posted 30 April 2019 - 11:09 AM

Kaeghl, I borrowed your 'kollich edjeked idjit' to use in a post on the articles site.

 

kollich edekated idjit (corrected spelling) is the typical name given to second lieutenants by sergeants Army-wide.

 

The most hated words sergeants can hear is when Top would say "we're getting a new 'looie', get him squared away and up to speed, Sergeant." We could look forward to upwards of seven months or more of work, with no idea if the K.E.I. would be worth it.

 

West point grads and ROTC's  weren't too bad, and OCS grads at least had a few years of "Real Army time experience to work with. Officers from VMI needed to be busted out and sent to the Air Force, where they could do no harm to real soldiers.


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Posted 03 May 2019 - 08:51 AM

This is actually pretty funny...because I've been immersed in the "gun culture" for a while and my experience is that most gun owners are FAR more "radical" than the NRA....not the other way around. At various times we have been very upset with the NRA giving up ground on issues.  The NRA isn't "radicalizing" anyone. 

 

I'm also not sure how the NRA can influence gun owners more than gun owners influence the NRA. The NRA is a membership organization. If you pay dues, you can vote for the leadership. Therefore, the leadership should be doing what the members want. Compare that to the Brady Campaign or whatever they're calling themselves now. How can I become a member? How can I vote on the leadership? You can't. They're more than happy to take your donations, but you can't influence their policies or positions on anything. And, that, is precisely why Brady will never be on the scale of the NRA. It's a non-participatory organization.


Edited by soylentgreen, 03 May 2019 - 08:52 AM.


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Posted 03 May 2019 - 04:07 PM

While I don't belong to the nra any longer they are far from trying to radicalize anyone. Their scaremongering tactics are a huge turn off for me and I got tired of that, so I refused to renew. They are the only organization I know that nationally promotes gun safety(although they stopped telling anyone a few years ago). All the so-called gun safety people in the national media are not, their idea of safety is bans, they are simply anti-2A. 


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