cybermgk

[sigh] EVEN if the tech worked flawlessly, it is useless for the stated purpose. WELL over 90% (depending on locale) of gun homicides are committed related to the drug trade and/or gang related activity. Again, well over 90% of those who have been incarcerated for a gun homicide, or gun related crime or shooting, say they used an illegally obtained gun. Microstamping, again, if it worked flawlessly, is only of use, if the person responsible for the shooting, legally bought the firearm, and thus there is a record somewhere associating that person to that microstamp. But, as we see, that is a tiny percentage of homicides. AND, that is assuming those few don't disappear, when this becomes a thing. Otherwise it is just an expensive means to match a shell casing to a firearm. It's not even as good of evidence as current ballistics matching which at least can match some fired projectiles to a gun. A matched shell at a scene is circumstantial evidence at best. "But, it will at least capture straw purchasers" some might counter. Doubtful. The only straw purchasers that matter in this regard, are those doing so to sell illegally by design. For this to stem that flow, assumes extremely stupid criminals in this regard. It assumes they wouldn't be smart enough (if not already doing this) and 'laundering' the guns. IOW, that they don't or wouldn't start selling first, illegally to a 'distributor' that then sells them individually on the black market. Of course, those that buy in other states that have no microstamping idiot laws, wouldn't have to change their ways at all. ALL of that assumes, that the criminal element doesn't just disable the microstamping and conduct business as usual. "But, we'll make that illegal". So is the illegal selling and using of guns, let alone homicide. If just making it illegal worked, you wouldn't need microstamping, now would you.? The only people this would 'catch', is the rare person, whom until the incident, were law abiding, and defended themselves, and fled the scene (fleeing the scene makes them no longer law abiding, not the defense of self), or the already slam dunk cases of law abiding owners killing a family member in a heat of the moment thing. In other words, it is a useless thing. Do I have to even mention the close to half a billion firearms already out there, without microstamping? Put microstamping in, and all you will do is make those MORE of a theft target, upping those crimes even more.

I didn't see this till today. We are not much ahead on too many of these.

Not even to the 90 day point, just planning ahead.

How long is it good for? I.E. my CCL is up last part of the year. If I take the course, how long is it 'valid' for? Does it's use for renewal expire? I.E. do I have to take it within X amount of time before renewing my license

Of course it is going to make some online sellers stop selling here. But even locally, it is going to be an impact. Go to Bass Pro Shop, want to buy some H-110. Before, you could check out at the front, quick check of FOID. Do you think that will continue? Just wait, you will only be ale to check out in the firearms area, as that will be the only place they will run the check.

My CCL will expire (in a little under a year) before my FOID by years. What will happen then?

Guess there will be nothing you can do, when your hand slips and votes for someone other than him.

"I'm sure all the calls to Sens. Durbin and Duckworth made a difference!" I did both emails and calls. Duckworth's office, get this, in answer to the email, spoke nada about this, and instead tried to sell me on the Build Back Better Money Printing Bill.

And on 'plans' proven not to work elsewhere.

Can have the stiffest penalties in the world. But, if the State's Attorney doesn't charge them, it is still moot.

Even more to the point (and I want to preface that the lawsuit crap added to the TX bill was ill-advised and stupid imho), it differs on fundamental basis. The Tx bill outlaws a service/procedure what have, you THEN allows for suit against those that provide said service, or aids and abetts. EVEN in it's absurdly broad definition of those that qualify, nowhere does it allow for suit against the manufacturer, sellers or similar of any tools used for said service. But, that is exactly what this idiotic Illinois bill does. In fact, it is this exact aspect of the Tx law, that I, imho (IAMNAL) will get it, or that part struck down in the courts. Uber drivers? really?

But that is the point. Under our Constitution, we have the freedom to, or not to buy products made wherever. THAT is exactly the point. I personally CHOOSE to not buy products made in China, and certainly by Chinese (CCP) owned companies. It is sometimes impossible, but I do what I can. THAT is my choice.. Your whole stance seems to be that Biden making royal Fiats, is ok, because the country involved is bad.

Yes. And although, technically this hurts Russia, it is really a minor degree. But, it was done, under that auspice. But, any objective person can see it was aimed at hurting gun owning Americans. Does anyone REALLY believe this was done to hurt Russia as stated? Particularly, after this Administration, for all intent and purpose greenlighted their oil pipeline?

According to Larry Keane of the NSSF, this likely won't impact us, for 2 years, because it only affects NEW applications from Sep 7 on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTeae6A8PL8