Jump to content


Photo

Biden pushes gun control after attempted assassination on deputies


  • Please log in to reply
24 replies to this topic

#1 InterestedBystander

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 7,852 posts
  • Joined: 15-March 13

Posted 13 September 2020 - 08:20 PM

full article at link...

https://www.foxnews....ion-on-deputies

...Biden pushes gun control less than 24 hours after attempted assassination on deputies

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden on Sunday called for gun control less than 24 hours after two Los Angeles County sheriffs deputies who were critically wounded in Compton after a gunman opened fire on their squad car in an apparent ambush.

Weapons of war have no place in our communities, the former Vice President tweeted. We need to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines....

Edited by InterestedBystander, 13 September 2020 - 08:21 PM.

NRA Life Member; ISRA Member
FFL-IL Supporter
SAF Member; GOA Member
🇺🇸

#2 TriumphRider

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 634 posts
  • Joined: 19-June 10

Posted 13 September 2020 - 08:24 PM

He's an idiot. 


The Problem is not the problem.  The Problem is your Attitude about the problem.


#3 ragsbo

    Member

  • Members
  • 1,849 posts
  • Joined: 11-August 05

Posted 13 September 2020 - 08:30 PM

Typical liberal, never let a tragedy go to waste, abuse it to further your anti American agenda



#4 Lou

    Resident Old Guy

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 14,327 posts
  • Joined: 18-May 04

Posted 13 September 2020 - 08:48 PM

full article at link...

https://www.foxnews....ion-on-deputies

...Biden pushes gun control less than 24 hours after attempted assassination on deputies

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden on Sunday called for gun control less than 24 hours after two Los Angeles County sheriffs deputies who were critically wounded in Compton after a gunman opened fire on their squad car in an apparent ambush.

Weapons of war have no place in our communities, the former Vice President tweeted. We need to ban assault weapons and high-capacity magazines....

He used a handgun- not a cruise missile.  What weapon of war is he talking about? Biden is pandering but not being coherent. 


People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. -  George Orwell

A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again. 


#5 Bubbacs

    #Fear The Clown

  • Members
  • 4,324 posts
  • Joined: 14-November 14

Posted 13 September 2020 - 09:29 PM

I so wanted to post that LOU but seriously why a assault weapon ban when all the killings in Chicago, LA, New York etc are close up handgun ****?

And the high capacity mags! What is a high capacity mag anyway?



#6 2A4Cook

    Old and Cranky

  • Members
  • 3,872 posts
  • Joined: 17-April 14

Posted 13 September 2020 - 10:40 PM

Ban Biden voters, into whose hands the NRA magically makes the guns appear and shoot other Biden voters. Dammit, I forgot: facts is racist.

#7 Flynn

    Member

  • Members
  • 3,549 posts
  • Joined: 20-August 18

Posted 14 September 2020 - 01:28 AM

And the high capacity mags! What is a high capacity mag anyway?

 

Anything over a single round if they get their way


Anonymous leakers, leak anonymously about the anonymous leak.
 
—Anonymous

#8 soundguy

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 7,188 posts
  • Joined: 27-February 05

Posted 14 September 2020 - 09:01 AM

And the high capacity mags! What is a high capacity mag anyway?

 
Anything over a single round if they get their way

Before John Brownings incorporation of the double stack magazine in the High Power, which held 13 rounds in the magazine, hand guns typically carried 5 to 8 rounds. The High Power was a game changer due to its higher capacity. That was nearly 100 years ago. And it was designed as a military and police weapon.

While I absolutely do not agree with banning standard issue magazines due to higher round capacity than standard hand guns from 100 years ago, and my High Powers generally see use with the improved 15 round magazines, that’s where “High Capacity Magazine” came from. They were born with the designation.
Life is a cooperative venture... That's what makes it work.

#9 Bitter Clinger

    Member

  • Members
  • 1,479 posts
  • Joined: 05-February 14

Posted 14 September 2020 - 09:30 AM

The term High Capacity Magazine has become a political term which meaning changes depending on the political winds. It could be ten rounds here, fifteen there or seven over there, depending on what a politician feels for the day.

 

The term is similar to "assault weapon".



#10 Jeffrey

    Member

  • Members
  • 6,572 posts
  • Joined: 10-January 08

Posted 14 September 2020 - 10:11 AM

Joe fails to mention we should get criminals off the street.  He didn't have a problem remembering to castigate the law abiding.  November's election is the choice between the two.


...and justice for all

YOUR WALLET, the only place Democrats care to drill

#11 Lou

    Resident Old Guy

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 14,327 posts
  • Joined: 18-May 04

Posted 14 September 2020 - 10:21 AM

The term High Capacity Magazine has become a political term which meaning changes depending on the political winds. It could be ten rounds here, fifteen there or seven over there, depending on what a politician feels for the day.

 

The term is similar to "assault weapon".

As other states have proven if they ban 15 round magazines the next step will be 10 rounds and then 7. 

Their strategy is death by 1000 cuts.  The more we give in the more they will demand. 


People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. -  George Orwell

A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again. 


#12 MagSlap

    Member

  • Members
  • 2,641 posts
  • Joined: 06-January 15

Posted 14 September 2020 - 10:35 AM

He used a handgun- not a cruise missile.  What weapon of war is he talking about? Biden is pandering but not being coherent.

THREAD WINNER!!

Please collect your prize in the lobby.

Your VERY OWN missile launcher!!

NOTE: We take no responsibility when feds visit you to ensure the projectiles have a velocity of less than 7FPS.

mtc82003.jpg

 

 

 



#13 soundguy

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 7,188 posts
  • Joined: 27-February 05

Posted 14 September 2020 - 10:36 AM

The term High Capacity Magazine has become a political term which meaning changes depending on the political winds. It could be ten rounds here, fifteen there or seven over there, depending on what a politician feels for the day.
 
The term is similar to "assault weapon".


I agree... “sturmgewehr”/assault weapon is another name born of its inception for use in war.

It seems to be a washing of history to think the gun banners invented these terms rather than co-opting them for their own purpose. I think our job is to change their minds and have them, and us, focus on the causes of violence rather than our tools.
Life is a cooperative venture... That's what makes it work.

#14 steveTA84

    Member

  • Members
  • 8,671 posts
  • Joined: 14-December 15

Posted 14 September 2020 - 11:00 AM

Reminder to that C&R’s like 76 year old M1 Carbines aren’t safe, so word of warning to people who think their weapon of choice is exempt

https://www.outdoorl...ne-owner-felon/

#15 mauserme

    Eliminating the element of surprise one bill at a time.

  • Admin
  • 22,082 posts
  • Joined: 20-February 09

Posted 14 September 2020 - 11:19 AM

I agree... “sturmgewehr”/assault weapon is another name born of its inception for use in war.

It seems to be a washing of history to think the gun banners invented these terms rather than co-opting them for their own purpose. I think our job is to change their minds and have them, and us, focus on the causes of violence rather than our tools.


I think, though, that "sturmgewehr" translates to "assault rifle", that term having a very specific military meaning at the time.

The term "assault weapon" is a political construct meant to play on the German word in order to associate images of war with typically non-military firearms. It has meaning only in the moment, changing as the politics of gun control change.



#16 steveTA84

    Member

  • Members
  • 8,671 posts
  • Joined: 14-December 15

Posted 14 September 2020 - 12:13 PM

Oh, and have an AR/AK pistol or any pistol that weighs more than 3.125 pounds? Felony under the current proposed AWB

https://www.congress...te-bill/66/text

B8C272CA-3AA3-4AFE-8784-FE27E66E0E94.jpeg

For the love of god, if the dems get full control, theyll ram this through. Hold your nose and vote R if you must and if you care about gun rights and dont want to be worrying about drawn out legal battles and possibly becoming a felon

#17 mauserme

    Eliminating the element of surprise one bill at a time.

  • Admin
  • 22,082 posts
  • Joined: 20-February 09

Posted 14 September 2020 - 12:27 PM

For the love of god, if the dems get full control, theyll ram this through. Hold your nose and vote R if you must and if you care about gun rights and dont want to be worrying about drawn out legal battles and possibly becoming a felon


It's true, however, that at the Federal or Illinois State level, both parties have looked for bi-partisan support in order to avoid any single party taking the exclusive blame for gun control. Unfortunately, it isn't terribly hard to find a few Republicans who will go along with almost anything proposed (even if they don't sign on as a sponsor).



#18 soundguy

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 7,188 posts
  • Joined: 27-February 05

Posted 14 September 2020 - 12:28 PM

 

I agree... “sturmgewehr”/assault weapon is another name born of its inception for use in war.

It seems to be a washing of history to think the gun banners invented these terms rather than co-opting them for their own purpose. I think our job is to change their minds and have them, and us, focus on the causes of violence rather than our tools.


I think, though, that "sturmgewehr" translates to "assault rifle", that term having a very specific military meaning at the time.

The term "assault weapon" is a political construct meant to play on the German word in order to associate images of war with typically non-military firearms. It has meaning only in the moment, changing as the politics of gun control change.

 

 

A good reminder to stop using the term "weapon" to refer to your guns... I have handguns, rifles and shotguns. There is not a single "weapon" in my home.


Life is a cooperative venture... That's what makes it work.

#19 steveTA84

    Member

  • Members
  • 8,671 posts
  • Joined: 14-December 15

Posted 14 September 2020 - 01:07 PM

For the love of god, if the dems get full control, theyll ram this through. Hold your nose and vote R if you must and if you care about gun rights and dont want to be worrying about drawn out legal battles and possibly becoming a felon

It's true, however, that at the Federal or Illinois State level, both parties have looked for bi-partisan support in order to avoid any single party taking the exclusive blame for gun control. Unfortunately, it isn't terribly hard to find a few Republicans who will go along with almost anything proposed (even if they don't sign on as a sponsor).
Oh yeah no doubt, however one party makes it a part of their platform

Edited by steveTA84, 14 September 2020 - 01:08 PM.


#20 mauserme

    Eliminating the element of surprise one bill at a time.

  • Admin
  • 22,082 posts
  • Joined: 20-February 09

Posted 14 September 2020 - 01:19 PM

Oh yeah no doubt, however one party makes it a part of their platform


Very true. And being able to control committees certainly counts for a lot.

#21 WitchDoctor

    Member

  • Members
  • 1,366 posts
  • Joined: 08-March 16

Posted 14 September 2020 - 02:20 PM

 

 

I agree... “sturmgewehr”/assault weapon is another name born of its inception for use in war.

It seems to be a washing of history to think the gun banners invented these terms rather than co-opting them for their own purpose. I think our job is to change their minds and have them, and us, focus on the causes of violence rather than our tools.


I think, though, that "sturmgewehr" translates to "assault rifle", that term having a very specific military meaning at the time.

The term "assault weapon" is a political construct meant to play on the German word in order to associate images of war with typically non-military firearms. It has meaning only in the moment, changing as the politics of gun control change.

 

 

A good reminder to stop using the term "weapon" to refer to your guns... I have handguns, rifles and shotguns. There is not a single "weapon" in my home.

 

Thank you Sound Guy!


IC Sponsor

ISRA Member

Proud Parent to  wonderful, most times, kids...

Tired of Chicago B.S.

Violence and force is what criminals understand!

"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787


#22 2A4Cook

    Old and Cranky

  • Members
  • 3,872 posts
  • Joined: 17-April 14

Posted 14 September 2020 - 03:58 PM

"Assault rifles" are military primary infantry long arms with a cartridge between a pistol and high-powered rifle in power and capable of full auto (later 3 round burst) fire.

AR-15's are neither designed for military use nor capable of anything other than semiautomatic fire. The only other "assault weapons" were 75mm infantry support self-propelled artillery pieces which have largely been obsolete since the German surrender in 1945.

Dems just make it up as they go along, clueless but with a determined and nefarious agenda.

#23 steveTA84

    Member

  • Members
  • 8,671 posts
  • Joined: 14-December 15

Posted 14 September 2020 - 04:34 PM

It doesnt matter what you call them or what they call them. Terminology is not the issue. They want ALL guns and will start with semi-auto rifles and pistols that take detachable mags


It doesnt matter what you call them or what they call them. Terminology is not the issue and plays into the antis. They want ALL guns and will start with semi-auto rifles and pistols that take detachable mags. Just like how an AR is classified as a sporting rifle by us, its stupid. Its a semi auto magazine fed rifle and f their lables and opinions of them.

Edited by steveTA84, 14 September 2020 - 04:36 PM.


#24 2A4Cook

    Old and Cranky

  • Members
  • 3,872 posts
  • Joined: 17-April 14

Posted 14 September 2020 - 04:43 PM

And technically, the 2A MANDATES the people be allowed to keep and bear standard infantry weapons, meaning M-16's! Limiting the people to sporting arms is in and of itself unconstitutional!

#25 JTHunter

    Member

  • Members
  • 2,048 posts
  • Joined: 29-November 13

Posted 14 September 2020 - 09:51 PM

He's an idiot. 

So what else is new? :pinch:


“We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution.” - - Abraham Lincoln

“Small minds adhere to the letter of the law; great minds dispense Justice.” - - S. C. Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes

Life member NAHC, Endowment member NRA




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users