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There's a city ordinance on the books in Chicago making body armor contraband for anyone who isn't a cop or a movie star. Chicago decided not to enforce it as soon as the city council passed it, because the city council thought that the ILGA would make it a felony to possess armor under any conditions. (There was a bill once upon a time, but it died of neglect in committee.)

 

Currently it is illegal in IL to possess body armor only while committing some other crime with a firearm. Most states have laws like that. Of course, legislatures can always decide to make body armor illegal-er.

 

BTW, the law in IN doesn't specify what kind of crime makes possession of body armor illegal. Theoretically if you run a red light in IN with body armor, the body armor could make it a felony, although I doubt anyone has ever been charged that way.

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On 5/17/2022 at 7:03 AM, soundguy said:

I have been required to wear body armor a couple of times. It sucks! No normal person would ever wear it… 

I wear them all the time weather permitting, I have a vest, and two coats formal and casual, I also have plates but those are just in case insanity prevails.

I keep the vest strapped to my drivers seat so I'm never without it.   I don't wear them to the range because it's my range, I make the rules. 

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On 5/17/2022 at 12:04 PM, SiliconSorcerer said:

I wear them all the time weather permitting, I have a vest, and two coats formal and casual, I also have plates but those are just in case insanity prevails.

I keep the vest strapped to my drivers seat so I'm never without it.   I don't wear them to the range because it's my range, I make the rules. 

If I take a job where I have to go into Chiraq, I might want to wear body armor to get to the office and back.
Are school children in Chicago with body armor plates in their back packs criminals? 
 

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On 5/17/2022 at 11:10 PM, mab22 said:

If I take a job where I have to go into Chiraq, I might want to wear body armor to get to the office and back.
Are school children in Chicago with body armor plates in their back packs criminals? 
 

I believe they are required to use only clear bags. If so, yes.

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On 5/18/2022 at 10:24 AM, Birddog38 said:

I believe they are required to use only clear bags. If so, yes.

Only Chicago.  Clear bags to make sure they aren't bringing guns into the school.  No one told them there are other ways to carry it.  Armor should be part of the school uniform inside Chitcago.

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NY Post

NY Post said:

Gov. Kathy Hochul is pushing executive orders and legislation to combat gun crimes and domestic terrorism following the deadly, racist-fueled mass shooting in Buffalo last weekend.

 

The package includes an executive order that would require State Police to seize weapons under the state's red flag law from potentially dangerous people "whenever they have probable cause to believe that an individual is a threat to themselves or others," Hochul is announcing Wednesday afternoon.

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Hochul is also targeting online extremism by ordering State Police to dedicate a unit to monitoring social media for potential threats by extremists.

 

The governor is also directing state Attorney General Letitia James to investigate how [the perpetrator] leveraged social media to spread so-called "replacement theory," which claims a cabal of Democrats is conspiring to replace white Americans with non-white immigrants.

 

Hochul -- who just hours before the shooting suggested to The Post that her anti-crime legislative efforts were done for the year -- is also pushing for state lawmakers to pass several pieces of legislation.

 

One bill would require that semi-automatic handguns made or sold in New York include features that would mark ammunition with a microstamp after it is fired, which would help law enforcement better investigate gun crimes.

 

Other legislation would require law enforcement to report within 24 hours any firearm they recover from a crime scene. Hochul is also pushing a new bill that would expand the definition of firearms to include additional types of guns.

 

Notes:

  • There has been no mention of body armor (which was the original concern of this thread).
  • Police already have the power to act when there's probable cause. Red flag laws are used when there's less than probable cause.
  • Were the state police not already monitoring social media for extremism? (They might not have been doing a very good job, but I'd bet they were doing something.)
  • Microstamping won't suddenly start working by legislation in NY any more than it would anywhere else. (I believe that CA is the only state with a microstamping law currently.)
  • Have police been keeping firearms seized at crime scenes a secret in NY? (Also, why do people keep saying that firearms were "recovered" when nobody lost them?)
  • Are airguns and spring guns about to become "firearms" in NY? The perpetrator had a Mossberg 500, a Savage Axis XP, and a Bushmaster XM-15. All of them are already considered firearms.

 

Except for banning all firearm sales, since nothing supports microstamping, (good luck with that, too) these actions don't do anything that isn't already being done. The non-firearm firearm restriction is pretty nebulous. I haven't found any details in any news report anywhere.

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On 5/18/2022 at 11:46 AM, BennyDR said:

I'm really surprised that they haven't attempted anything substantial this far into the Biden presidency. I expected them to at least attempt another awb or something similar.

 

(Lifts rock you have been sleeping under...)

 

24 March 2021

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56509481

 

March 1, 2022

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-ban-assault-weapons-high-capacity-magazines-sotu-speech

 

May 17, 2022

https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20220517401/biden-renews-push-for-assault-weapons-ban-after-buffalo-shooting-but-analyst-says-senate-unlikely-to-pass-new-gun-control-laws

 

 

Well 'push' as in...he 'expresses' it....he wants it...

Any legislation? Well..of course there is the gallery of misfits/commies/socialists/democrats (but I repeat myself) that I suspect are putting in the 4 hours of work a day to bring this about in the most obfuscated back door manner to get such things enacted...

 


 

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On 5/18/2022 at 9:28 PM, DoYouFeelLucky said:

I had real body armor when I was in KS.  Made in KS and legal at that time to be sold in KS.  It was fairly comfortable.  The plate carriers seem like they are really heavy and would slow a person down.  Unfortunately there's no common sense when it comes to the ban and cancel culture.

I remember when Sams Club sold soft body armor.  
I don’t know how popular it was but I remember them having it on display 

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On 5/19/2022 at 8:19 AM, Lou said:

I remember when Sams Club sold soft body armor.  
I don’t know how popular it was but I remember them having it on display 

I bought a very nice CZ 550 in .375 H&H in the Anchorage Sam's Club.  Took it over to Wild West Guns to have a scope put on it.  Those days are long gone.

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