anonymous too Posted August 5, 2016 at 03:23 PM Posted August 5, 2016 at 03:23 PM Why do you have to make an announcement that you're not voting for Trump? I understand the way he feels to a point. The establishment Republicans are gonna wreck what's left of the party in my opinion.
spec5 Posted August 5, 2016 at 03:39 PM Posted August 5, 2016 at 03:39 PM http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/adam-kinzinger-donald-trump-226643 Here is a link for your thread.
Kaeghl Posted August 5, 2016 at 03:50 PM Posted August 5, 2016 at 03:50 PM Smooth move, Kinz. I saw that you want to make your non-vote for Trump into a vote for Hitlery. And at the same time, he's making noises like he needs to support that a$$hat Kirk....just cuz. Sheesh. Kinz is descending into that swamp called RINO land.... a pity, we had such hopes for him.
Xwing Posted August 5, 2016 at 04:40 PM Posted August 5, 2016 at 04:40 PM Great. So he's basically saying he want Hillary for president. He might as well put "Go Hillary" signs in his yard. It's one thing to not be a fan of Trump, but quite another to take action which will help Hildabeast win....
mic6010 Posted August 5, 2016 at 04:56 PM Posted August 5, 2016 at 04:56 PM Politics. Money grubbing power hungry elites that want to get re elected. That's all. They should be voted out but people are to stupid to do it probably.
sctman800 Posted August 5, 2016 at 05:17 PM Posted August 5, 2016 at 05:17 PM Another establishment "R" showing why the average person is fed up with the establishment elites. This is why trump got so many primary votes and the elites don't want him. Screw the crybaby establishment elites!!! Jim.
Nanook Posted August 5, 2016 at 07:35 PM Posted August 5, 2016 at 07:35 PM To think I voted for this guy. I'm so embarrassed. It does make it easier to hang up on his robo calls. Support the party's candidate, is that so hard to ask? After all, we supported McCain and Mittens when they ran. Many of us had to hold our noses for those two. I guess Duckworth is going to walk all over Kirk. Kirk is no great loss, but it may help tip the control of the Senate by losing his seat to the Duck.
Jeffrey Posted August 5, 2016 at 07:50 PM Posted August 5, 2016 at 07:50 PM I don't want to vote for Kirk, but I'd rather have him than a D. Same goes for the POTUS. What good does it do for the party when a guy like this says he won't vote for Trump. If you cared enough about your party, you would support it. If you didn't support your party, have the cajones to change parties.
GWBH Posted August 5, 2016 at 07:56 PM Posted August 5, 2016 at 07:56 PM He's just another career politician that's scared to death they'll lose their hold on a place in the government if outsiders like Trump start getting elected.I have some problems with the Donald, but he's a heckuva lot better than Clinton.All the party "elites" had better take notice. How can they be so naive? Trump got the nod from the people in the party primary - not from them.
Hipshot Percussion Posted August 5, 2016 at 09:25 PM Posted August 5, 2016 at 09:25 PM I was going to send an email to say the reason he should support Trump is because that's what this Country's Republican constituents want! It doesn't make a darn bit of difference what he wants, what do your Constituents say?! Lo' and behold, he only accepts email from those in his District. So, he will happily use the national media to send his message, but only receive from his small number of voters.
BobPistol Posted August 5, 2016 at 10:18 PM Posted August 5, 2016 at 10:18 PM Another crony enriching elite whining like a baby, nothing new.
DonP Posted August 6, 2016 at 12:04 AM Posted August 6, 2016 at 12:04 AM When he first ran against Debbie Halvorson I voted for him and sent a small check. Veteran, said all the right things, pro 2nd etc. Then we were redistricted (thanks Madigan, aka Skeletor) and now in Frankfort, Bobby Rush is my invisible representative. We donlt see him and neither do the halls of Congress. Now Kinzinger sounds more like Kirk and Durbin every day, trying to suck up to the Chicago pols and money and get the lefties to think; "Oh he's not one of those "hard core" conservative types". Behavior like that is the reason candidates like Jeb!, Kasich and the rest of the GOP weenies are out in the cold now.
fenris Posted August 6, 2016 at 03:34 AM Posted August 6, 2016 at 03:34 AM Why do you have to make an announcement that you're not voting for Trump? I understand the way he feels to a point. The establishment Republicans are gonna wreck what's left of the party in my opinion. Or Trump is going to destroy the party, which is more likely. To the points in different posts - Trump was not the choice of the Republican constituency. He did not win a majority, he won a plurality with most of his wins when the race was still competitive coming in Open primary states where non-republicans could vote. Kinzinger also said he would not vote for Clinton either. Hopefully he will vote for Johnson. As both Hillary and Trump continue to show that they are egomaniacal, statist, mentally deficient scum, hopefully Johnson can rise in the polls to get in the debates so we can have a candidate who is thoroughly pro 2A, not someone, like Trump, who has supported AWBs before. Trump even walked back from the list of POTUS nominees he posted, which was the only reason one could support him. You can't trust a thing Trump says - he has changed his position on almost everything, sometimes in the same night. Everyone one torn over Trump and Hillary needs to give Johnson a serious look.
spec4 Posted August 6, 2016 at 12:10 PM Posted August 6, 2016 at 12:10 PM Another benefit of a Trump win is the GOP will have to transform itself to that which it claims to be. Trump will push it. Ferris, IMO the very best Johnson could do is become a spoiler and help Hillary. IIRC his VP choice is on record as anti2A.
anonymous too Posted August 6, 2016 at 04:45 PM Author Posted August 6, 2016 at 04:45 PM My point is that alot of people who voted for Kinzinger also voted for Trump. Kinzinger has every right to do what he wants, but he doesn't have to say it in August for a November election. My brother and Adam are friends to a point and Adam always puts a very large sign on one of our properties. Can ya guess who's sign just as big or bigger will be next to it?
Hipshot Percussion Posted August 7, 2016 at 03:38 AM Posted August 7, 2016 at 03:38 AM Kinzinger has every right to do what he wants, but he doesn't have to say it in August for a November election.Although I agree with the concept, in reality, to my mind, no, he doesn't have a say in it. He is there to do the bidding of the people who put him in office. Those same people voted Trump as their Republican Representative. I think he has a moral and ethical duty to do exactly as the Republicans of this Country have decided. Once these guys start thinking they know better than us, is when the trouble starts. And when he starts believing he doesn't need to do what we want, then he needs to resign and change parties. Simple as that. If you can't do the job you've been charged with by the Citizens of this State, then move it along, get another job.
BobPistol Posted August 8, 2016 at 10:48 AM Posted August 8, 2016 at 10:48 AM He is there to do the bidding of the people who put him in office. Who are the cronies that paid for those nice expensive fundraisers. Follow the money and you'll see who he is beholden to. Definitely not to the ordinary People who voted him in.
Hipshot Percussion Posted August 8, 2016 at 04:23 PM Posted August 8, 2016 at 04:23 PM He is there to do the bidding of the people who put him in office. Who are the cronies that paid for those nice expensive fundraisers. Follow the money and you'll see who he is beholden to. Definitely not to the ordinary People who voted him in. No argument there, it is what it is. But I won't just throw my hands up in the air and say "ahh well..." He's not there to give his opinion, he is there to give the opinion of his constituents.
Xwing Posted August 8, 2016 at 06:15 PM Posted August 8, 2016 at 06:15 PM Everyone one torn over Trump and Hillary needs to give Johnson a serious look. ... if they want Hillary to win... Doing anything other that voting for Trump just hands the election to Hillary. There is a huge difference between bad (Trump) and worse (Hillary). Anyone who values freedom needs to do anything possible to prevent a Hillary win. And the only option possible at this time is Trump.
GWBH Posted August 9, 2016 at 01:40 AM Posted August 9, 2016 at 01:40 AM Everyone one torn over Trump and Hillary needs to give Johnson a serious look. ... if they want Hillary to win... Doing anything other that voting for Trump just hands the election to Hillary. There is a huge difference between bad (Trump) and worse (Hillary). Anyone who values freedom needs to do anything possible to prevent a Hillary win. And the only option possible at this time is Trump. There's more to that than meets the eye.Republicans are notorious about voting on issues and concerns. Democrats, for the most part, just pull the "D" lever.At least that's how it is in mine and my wife's family - that's what I'm basing the statement on.Trump could be disastrous - or could be great. I'll take my chances on him rather than the "known" disaster from Hildebeast.That said - Trump and Sanders both may have opened a floodgate for outsiders to get elected - we can only hope!!
anonymous too Posted August 9, 2016 at 02:59 PM Author Posted August 9, 2016 at 02:59 PM Definitely not to the ordinary People who voted him in. Lots like my mother supported his local events and she's p***** at him now. Not big money, but tickets to those events get more expensive every election cycle.
Smallbore Posted August 9, 2016 at 03:35 PM Posted August 9, 2016 at 03:35 PM Used to like Kinzinger. Power does corrupt.
bigwilli Posted August 11, 2016 at 03:03 AM Posted August 11, 2016 at 03:03 AM Supporting Trump in a state that is honestly now one of the country's most liberal is political suicide. I get that. However, the Republicans that are saying they support a woman who seems to be a perpetual liar and potentially a felon... that is ridiculous. Meg Whitman, NY Congressman Hanna and the others supporting Hillary should be drummed out of the Republican party. If you do vehemently oppose Trump, you could at least support Gary Johnson.
vito Posted August 11, 2016 at 03:44 PM Posted August 11, 2016 at 03:44 PM I am in Kinzinger's district, and have communicated to him my grave disappointment in his decision. Regardless of your doubts about Trump, he is still a better choice for America than Clinton. And as I told him, any vote NOT for Trump is a vote for Clinton. Any fool who thinks he is being "true to his values" by voting for another candidate that has NO CHANCE of possibly winning the Presidency is, very directly, making it easier for Hilary to end up in the White House. I am still a bit hopeful that Kinzinger will get enough communications like mine that he will reverse his position on Trump. I know that until and unless he does I will not send him a dime for his re-election effort. If I can "hold my nose" and vote for Kirk, because as bad as he is he is still preferable to Duckworth, then he can do the same and support Trump for the good of America.
CAPTN JAXN Posted August 11, 2016 at 03:54 PM Posted August 11, 2016 at 03:54 PM Everyone one torn over Trump and Hillary needs to give Johnson a serious look.Uhhhh, NO It has been said 85 bazillion times...A 3rd party vote is a vote for Hillary. Just put on your "I stand with Hillary" t-shirt before you head out to vote...
mikew Posted August 13, 2016 at 04:16 AM Posted August 13, 2016 at 04:16 AM Everyone one torn over Trump and Hillary needs to give Johnson a serious look.Uhhhh, NO It has been said 85 bazillion times...A 3rd party vote is a vote for Hillary. Just put on your "I stand with Hillary" t-shirt before you head out to vote... What about a 3rd party vote for the Greens? That's a vote for Trump
markthesignguy Posted August 13, 2016 at 06:14 AM Posted August 13, 2016 at 06:14 AM I was the recipient of a Libertarian Party (Gary Johnson) phone "push" poll Thursday night. It got quite obvious and embarrassing. But they at least have to TRY to get him into the debates.
TomKoz Posted August 13, 2016 at 11:53 AM Posted August 13, 2016 at 11:53 AM Actually those that vote for any third party guy in this election, THEY are the SELFISH ones. They would rather vote for who makes them "feel" better even though that person has ABSOLUTELY no chance of winning, selfish!! Everyone else will be detrimentally effected by a win be Hillary, but you only care about voting for who makes you feel good - SELFISH. You don't care about your kids (if you have them), neices, nephews, or others children/grandchildren - beacause you know a President Hillary will NOT be good for their future. But you're gonna vote for the Libiterian candidate because that will make You feel good - SELFISH. And disgusting !!
anonymous too Posted August 13, 2016 at 03:32 PM Author Posted August 13, 2016 at 03:32 PM My family will hold our noses, but mother says absolutely no Kinzinger sign on her property. Turns out my brother is pretty unhappy too.
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