mauserme Posted June 15, 2021 at 11:44 AM Posted June 15, 2021 at 11:44 AM https://news.wttw.com/2021/06/14/cps-elected-school-board-foid-bill-set-votes CPS Elected School Board, FOID Bill Set for VotesAmanda Vinicky | June 14, 2021 9:13 pmIn the years since a man who should not have been able to legally have a gun in Illinois fatally shot five people at a manufacturing plant in Aurora in early 2019, state legislators have failed to reach a consensus on legislation to help prevent similar incidents.That may change come Wednesday, when the Illinois House is set to debate legislation (House Bill 562) that would establish a structure for law enforcement to remove guns from people whose Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) cards have been revoked....State Rep. Jay Hoffman, D-Swansea, said he plans to call the measure for a vote when the House returns for what’s scheduled to be a one-day special session....Hoffman said it’s the first time in memory that a gun measure has the blessing of principal gun-control groups like the Gun Violence Prevention Action Committee and the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence, even as the Illinois State Rifle Association, a gun rights group, is neutral....“There’s over 100 lawsuits about issues around FOID, and with the backlog as it exists, maybe one of these lawsuits will be successful,” Hoffman said. “If we don’t fix it then some of these lawsuits would be ripe for success, and getting rid of the FOID system would be awful in my mind.”...Illinois State Riffle Association President Richard Pearson confirmed the organization will not fight the bill....
EdDinIL Posted June 15, 2021 at 12:41 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 12:41 PM Illinois State Riffle Association President Richard Pearson confirmed the organization will not fight the bill. He said the ISRA is taking a neutral stance because the measure does both good and bad things for gun owners, like speeding up FOID card processing and mandating background checks for person-to-person sales. I wonder what words the IC filter will let me get away with.... Probably not the ones I'm contemplating.
bmyers Posted June 15, 2021 at 12:49 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 12:49 PM I won't be renewing my membership to ISRA
springfield shooter Posted June 15, 2021 at 01:11 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 01:11 PM I won't be renewing my membership to ISRANor will I.
springfield shooter Posted June 15, 2021 at 01:29 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 01:29 PM https://news.wttw.com/2021/06/14/cps-elected-school-board-foid-bill-set-votes CPS Elected School Board, FOID Bill Set for VotesAmanda Vinicky | June 14, 2021 9:13 pm In the years since a man who should not have been able to legally have a gun in Illinois fatally shot five people at a manufacturing plant in Aurora in early 2019, state legislators have failed to reach a consensus on legislation to help prevent similar incidents. That may change come Wednesday, when the Illinois House is set to debate legislation (House Bill 562) that would establish a structure for law enforcement to remove guns from people whose Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) cards have been revoked....State Rep. Jay Hoffman, D-Swansea, said he plans to call the measure for a vote when the House returns for what’s scheduled to be a one-day special session....Hoffman said it’s the first time in memory that a gun measure has the blessing of principal gun-control groups like the Gun Violence Prevention Action Committee and the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence, even as the Illinois State Rifle Association, a gun rights group, is neutral....“There’s over 100 lawsuits about issues around FOID, and with the backlog as it exists, maybe one of these lawsuits will be successful,” Hoffman said. “If we don’t fix it then some of these lawsuits would be ripe for success, and getting rid of the FOID system would be awful in my mind.”...Illinois State Riffle Association President Richard Pearson confirmed the organization will not fight the bill.... .......“There’s over 100 lawsuits about issues around FOID, and with the backlog as it exists, maybe one of these lawsuits will be successful,” Hoffman said. “If we don’t fix it then some of these lawsuits would be ripe for success, and getting rid of the FOID system would be awful in my mind.” (Emphasis mine.)..."Illinois State Riffle Association President Richard Pearson confirmed the organization will not fight the bill." (Emphasis mine.) Read Rep. Hoffman's stated purpose, then consider the gun rights group's position. Mr. Hoffman thinks it would be terrible to get rid of a system that requires an American citizen to pay a fee to exercise a Constitutionally protected right, and the ISRA is neutral about that.
RECarry Posted June 15, 2021 at 01:54 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 01:54 PM Illinois State Riffle Association President Richard Pearson confirmed the organization will not fight the bill. He said the ISRA is taking a neutral stance because the measure does both good and bad things for gun owners, like speeding up FOID card processing and mandating background checks for person-to-person sales. I wonder what words the IC filter will let me get away with.... Probably not the ones I'm contemplating. This is ILL-LIE-ANNOY. Anything that is promised to be "good" for gun owners will be DOA. You can't compromise with scoundrels.
mauserme Posted June 15, 2021 at 02:19 PM Author Posted June 15, 2021 at 02:19 PM https://news.wttw.com/2021/06/14/cps-elected-school-board-foid-bill-set-votes CPS Elected School Board, FOID Bill Set for VotesAmanda Vinicky | June 14, 2021 9:13 pm In the years since a man who should not have been able to legally have a gun in Illinois fatally shot five people at a manufacturing plant in Aurora in early 2019, state legislators have failed to reach a consensus on legislation to help prevent similar incidents. That may change come Wednesday, when the Illinois House is set to debate legislation (House Bill 562) that would establish a structure for law enforcement to remove guns from people whose Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) cards have been revoked....State Rep. Jay Hoffman, D-Swansea, said he plans to call the measure for a vote when the House returns for what’s scheduled to be a one-day special session....Hoffman said it’s the first time in memory that a gun measure has the blessing of principal gun-control groups like the Gun Violence Prevention Action Committee and the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence, even as the Illinois State Rifle Association, a gun rights group, is neutral....“There’s over 100 lawsuits about issues around FOID, and with the backlog as it exists, maybe one of these lawsuits will be successful,” Hoffman said. “If we don’t fix it then some of these lawsuits would be ripe for success, and getting rid of the FOID system would be awful in my mind.”...Illinois State Riffle Association President Richard Pearson confirmed the organization will not fight the bill.... .......“There’s over 100 lawsuits about issues around FOID, and with the backlog as it exists, maybe one of these lawsuits will be successful,” Hoffman said. “If we don’t fix it then some of these lawsuits would be ripe for success, and getting rid of the FOID system would be awful in my mind.” (Emphasis mine.)...Illinois State Riffle Association President Richard Pearson confirmed the organization will not fight the bill. (Emphasis mine.) Read Rep. Hoffman's stated purpose, then consider the gun rights group's position. Mr. Hoffman thinks it would be terrible to get rid of a system that requires an American citizen to pay a fee to exercise a Constitutionally protected right, and the ISRA is neutral about that. They are sabotaging their own lawsuit.
EdDinIL Posted June 15, 2021 at 04:33 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 04:33 PM They need 71 votes to concur and they need to concur on both amendments in order for the bill to pass, correct?
cls74 Posted June 15, 2021 at 04:57 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 04:57 PM Todd said this bill is in Judiciary and needs slipped. Also stated that ISRA is pushing the bill behind the scenes
Molly B. Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:07 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:07 PM Not seeing a witness slip available yet.
cls74 Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:07 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:07 PM Me neither, has 5 proponents on both amendments already
MRE Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:08 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:08 PM They need 71 votes to concur and they need to concur on both amendments in order for the bill to pass, correct? They would need 71 votes for it to become effective immediately upon being signed into law. If it only receives 60 it would not become effective until June 1, 2022.
Molly B. Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:09 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:09 PM Me neither, has 5 proponents on both amendments already Where are you seeing proponents?
cls74 Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:13 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:13 PM Here https://ilga.gov/legislation/witnessslip.asp?DocNum=562&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=128640&GAID=16&SessionID=110&GA=102&SpecSess= And here https://ilga.gov/legislation/witnessslip.asp?DocNum=562&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=128640&GAID=16&SessionID=110&GA=102&SpecSess=
cls74 Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:14 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:14 PM They may be old ones attached to original bill?
mauserme Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:21 PM Author Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:21 PM The amendments on HB562 were jsut assigned to the House Judiciary - Criminal Committee. HB1092 was approved for consideration.
JMike Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:37 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:37 PM Todd said this bill is in Judiciary and needs slipped. Also stated that ISRA is pushing the bill behind the scenesI don’t see how I can remain a member of the ISRA after this betrayal.
cls74 Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:39 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:39 PM Wonder if they removed the slip link? Both amendments have tomorrows hearing date with a few under it then the original date with the rest.
mauserme Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:55 PM Author Posted June 15, 2021 at 05:55 PM Wonder if they removed the slip link? Both amendments have tomorrows hearing date with a few under it then the original date with the rest. Screenshot_20210615-123622_Chrome.jpg Our Call to Action has links to the hearing.
Euler Posted June 15, 2021 at 06:13 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 06:13 PM https://news.wttw.com/2021/06/14/cps-elected-school-board-foid-bill-set-votes... Hoffman said it's the first time in memory that a gun measure has the blessing of principal gun-control groups like the Gun Violence Prevention Action Committee and the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence, even as the Illinois State Rifle Association, a gun rights group, is neutral. ... It may be the first time in memory that the ISRA was neutral, but I doubt it is the first time in anyone's memory that the Gun Violence Prevention Action Committee and the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence have supported gun control legislation.
springfield shooter Posted June 15, 2021 at 06:37 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 06:37 PM https://news.wttw.com/2021/06/14/cps-elected-school-board-foid-bill-set-votes .......“There’s over 100 lawsuits about issues around FOID, and with the backlog as it exists, maybe one of these lawsuits will be successful,” Hoffman said. “If we don’t fix it then some of these lawsuits would be ripe for success, and getting rid of the FOID system would be awful in my mind.” (Emphasis mine.)...Illinois State Riffle Association President Richard Pearson confirmed the organization will not fight the bill. (Emphasis mine.) Read Rep. Hoffman's stated purpose, then consider the gun rights group's position. Mr. Hoffman thinks it would be terrible to get rid of a system that requires an American citizen to pay a fee to exercise a Constitutionally protected right, and the ISRA is neutral about that. They are sabotaging their own lawsuit. And one has to think not unintentionally.
Colt guy Posted June 15, 2021 at 06:41 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 06:41 PM I am done with ISRA until there is a leadership change
mauserme Posted June 15, 2021 at 06:50 PM Author Posted June 15, 2021 at 06:50 PM And once again ISRA is filing neutral.https://my.ilga.gov/Hearing/WitnessSlipInfo/128640?hearingId=18741&LegislationDocumentId=171651&HCommittees6%2F22%2F2021-page=1&committeeid=0&chamber=H&nodays=7&_=1623777962850
ilphil Posted June 15, 2021 at 08:20 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 08:20 PM My ISRA membership was supposed to auto-renew on May 31st. It didn't happen. Saved me some $$. They won't see a dime from me until there is a leadership change. I don't have money to waste on groups that screw us over.
soundguy Posted June 15, 2021 at 09:23 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 09:23 PM My ISRA membership is due in the fall. Now that Im eligible, I probably will upgrade to the Senior Lifetime Membership. Its probably not the time to abandon friends, loyalties. Nor is it time to divide Illinois gun owners.
Lou Posted June 15, 2021 at 09:55 PM Posted June 15, 2021 at 09:55 PM My ISRA membership is due in the fall.Now that Im eligible, I probably will upgrade to the Senior Lifetime Membership. Its probably not the time to abandon friends, loyalties. Nor is it time to divide Illinois gun owners.Maybe the ISRA should have thought of that before taking the position they did.
EdDinIL Posted June 16, 2021 at 04:30 PM Posted June 16, 2021 at 04:30 PM So, what happens if HB0562 passes today and no FFL wishes to participate in the whole idiotic sensible and safe transfer process? Is that grounds for a legal challenge, or are we then just stuck conducting all transfers through traditional FFL methods?
MRE Posted June 16, 2021 at 04:37 PM Posted June 16, 2021 at 04:37 PM So, what happens if HB0562 passes today and no FFL wishes to participate in the whole idiotic sensible and safe transfer process? Is that grounds for a legal challenge, or are we then just stuck conducting all transfers through traditional FFL methods?As I posted in the other thread, the solution to this from gun control groups will be to mandate FFLs accept this paperwork. And theyll be able to do so, theyll say, through the authority the State now has to license dealers.
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