High capacity magazines

[vito]

As I understand the new law, sales are no longer legal for what are defined as "high capacity" magazines, but if we already have such there is no illegality in keeping them. Is this correct?

[2A4Cook]

That is my understanding, as well.  Try to keep receipts.

[ealcala31]

On 5/26/2023 at 2:06 PM, 2A4Cook said:

That is my understanding, as well.  Try to keep receipts.

That's what sucks, how is the state going to enforce the magazine ban? Are they going to request receipts during certain traffic stops? I sell quite a bit of my products at gun shows. Firearms ALWAYS get a receipt but accessories, rarely. I offer receipts to most of my customers at the gun shows but most of them refuse. I am betting there is going to be a significant amount of gun owners who don't have receipts for their "assault" parts. Then what: confiscation, arrest, confiscation & arrest? Can't wait to see how this unfolds next year...

[davel501]

The burden of proof is on the state to prove you acquired the banned item after the date. As long as you don't have something that didn't exist at the time they are going to have a hard time making their case. 

[2A4Cook]

On 5/26/2023 at 6:33 PM, davel501 said:

The burden of proof is on the state to prove you acquired the banned item after the date. As long as you don't have something that didn't exist at the time they are going to have a hard time making their case. 

True, but they'll still confiscate it, so you still lose.  And if they DO charge you even if they have no case, they can try to take your firearms, as well.  This tyrant state just doesn't care about the law, let alone our rights.

[davel501]

On 5/26/2023 at 6:38 PM, 2A4Cook said:

True, but they'll still confiscate it, so you still lose.  And if they DO charge you even if they have no case, they can try to take your firearms, as well.  This tyrant state just doesn't care about the law, let alone our rights.

 

I would spend the money to destroy those tyrants financially and professionally. I know that's not the choice everyone would make but people like us are out there. 

[Rmac702]

It's too bad you are considered guilty until you prove your own innocence.  Somehow that got twisted around over the past 30 years.

[Bitter Clinger]

So, can I still take my handgun with a 17 round mag to the range, at least until next year?

Can I bring my AR to the range with a 30 round mag, at least until next year?

 

I guess we really could use a list of what we can and cannot do at this point.

[Tvandermyde]

On 5/28/2023 at 6:50 AM, Bitter Clinger said:

So, can I still take my handgun with a 17 round mag to the range, at least until next year?

Can I bring my AR to the range with a 30 round mag, at least until next year?

 

I guess we really could use a list of what we can and cannot do at this point.

At this point you can take a "high cap" mag to the enumerated places in section 1.10 if unloaded and enclosed in a case as if they were a gun

you can keep them at home -- loaded or unloaded. 

 

you can not carry a gun with a high cap mag, and in my reading of the law that means any mag that can be converted to more than 15 rounds due to add on base plates or removeable base plates. intent is not a condition in the law. 

[John Q Public]

That's a can of worms because most basepads are removable and could be fitted with an extension and longer spring, so as written, virtually all mags can be extended.

[Tvandermyde]

On 5/28/2023 at 9:09 AM, John Q Public said:

That's a can of worms because most basepads are removable and could be fitted with an extension and longer spring, so as written, virtually all mags can be extended.

 

 

you must not be following my channel from 4/2

 

 

 

Or

 

 

[JTHunter]

On 5/26/2023 at 2:06 PM, 2A4Cook said:

That is my understanding, as well.  Try to keep receipts.

 

That's going to be hard when you bought them over 20 years ago.

[Bitter Clinger]

This "law" needs to be struck down.

The whole thing is ridiculous.

 

[cybermgk]

On 5/26/2023 at 6:26 PM, ealcala31 said:

That's what sucks, how is the state going to enforce the magazine ban? Are they going to request receipts during certain traffic stops? I sell quite a bit of my products at gun shows. Firearms ALWAYS get a receipt but accessories, rarely. I offer receipts to most of my customers at the gun shows but most of them refuse. I am betting there is going to be a significant amount of gun owners who don't have receipts for their "assault" parts. Then what: confiscation, arrest, confiscation & arrest? Can't wait to see how this unfolds next year...

Doesn't the Unconstitutional law say, though legal to own them, if you did before, but only at home   

[Max Liberty]

Most of these questions may be answered by simply finding and reading the law as passed... 

 

Max

[ealcala31]

On 5/30/2023 at 6:55 AM, cybermgk said:

Doesn't the Unconstitutional law say, though legal to own them, if you did before, but only at home   

They allow you to take them to other private property with the express permission of the owner. Also, if you shoot outside of the state like I do, you would be bringing those "dangerous" magazines back. The Indiana gun club that I am a part of, has so many IL residents that they stopped accepting IL residents a few years back until IN residents catch up 😆. I am sure other IL gun owners near any of our borders cross over to shoot or shoot on private farms within the state. Get caught speeding on the way back, that is going to be interesting...

[ragsbo]

We can what if it all day with different scenarios but we won't know for sure until someone gets arrested and goes through court to set a precedent. Hopefully this garbage of a law will be tossed in the garbage can long before that. 

[max503]

On 5/28/2023 at 7:55 PM, Bitter Clinger said:

This "law" needs to be struck down.

The whole thing is ridiculous.

 

My feelings exactly, but it won't be.  If other states have gotten away with it, then Illinois will too.  I look for handgun registration next.

[Wild Bill]

Liberal run states will continue to pass unconstitutional laws that they KNOW are unconstitutional because it will take YEARS for them to be corrected, and in the meantime everyone in the state has to play by their rules - which are unconstitutional. There is no repercussions for the states to continue doing exactly what they're doing now. In blue states I'd expect this to get worse before it gets better.

 

I think it's safe to say most on this forum didn't vote for the politicians passing this legislation, but the majority in your state did, so .....

Edited July 24, 2023 at 10:35 PM by Wild Bill

[jpearson]

Watch out for you Magpul pmags they all have a production date ..

 

If you were to have one examined by Leo  and the production date is after enactment you might have an issue ....

[spanishjames]

On 7/24/2023 at 7:50 PM, jpearson said:

Watch out for you Magpul pmags they all have a production date ..

 

If you were to have one examined by Leo  and the production date is after enactment you might have an issue ....

Sandpaper. 

[Black Flag]

On 7/24/2023 at 7:50 PM, jpearson said:

Watch out for you Magpul pmags they all have a production date ..

 

If you were to have one examined by Leo  and the production date is after enactment you might have an issue ....

Rebranding.

 

[ragsbo]

I do NOT have any "high capacity" magazines, all I have is normal capacity magazines. Don't let them change the name to fit their agenda;

[JTHunter]

On 7/25/2023 at 4:50 PM, ragsbo said:

I do NOT have any "high capacity" magazines, all I have is normal capacity magazines. Don't let them change the name to fit their agenda;

 

😁 😆 🤩

[CZ John]

You can legally retain "high capacity" magazines, but no longer purchase them (or have them transferred to you) after the effective date of the new statute.  You can use and possess them on your property, or property of others with their permission, including gun ranges.  However, you must transport the "high capacity" magazines unloaded, and the transport must be as you are going to a lawful place they can be possessed.  So, you cannot drive around with high capacity magazines on your person or vehicle if you are not enroute to a place you can lawfully possess them.  And, you cannot conceal carry a "high capacity" magazine.