Illinois General Assembly 1/8/2023

[mousegun6]

On 1/8/2023 at 3:16 PM, Just some guy said:

Isn't that what I said?

yes, just agreeing with you

[steveTA84]

On 1/8/2023 at 3:20 PM, Upholder said:

 

I was reading HFA3.  My apologies.

No need to apologize, this bill pasted pastes together by a chimpanzee high on crack that just downed a fifth of bourbon 

[Upholder]

On 1/8/2023 at 3:32 PM, steveTA84 said:

No need to apologize, this bill pasted pastes together by a chimpanzee high on crack that just downed a fifth of bourbon 

 

I had no idea Hunter was involved in the process!

[mauserme]

On 1/8/2023 at 2:22 PM, IH8IL said:

I know its hard but its been said so many times, there needs to be a stop to posting info cause it seems they’re listening and maybe even reading the forums, these are not gun people so how did they arrive at 15 rounds? It was probably brought to their attention.

 

Thanks for posting a reminder.

 

Several posts have been removed.

 

 

[cito]

I should already know this -  is there a video link to tonight’s proceedings? Thanks…

[Upholder]

On 1/8/2023 at 3:48 PM, cito said:

I should already know this -  is there a video link to tonight’s proceedings? Thanks…

 

The link to audio/video is always in masuerme's signature:  http://www.ilga.gov/houseaudvid.asp for the house, and http://www.ilga.gov/senateaudvid.asp for the senate.  Today. we're interested in the senate.

[AKS-74U]

Bohica ladies and gentlemen.

[spec5]

Good idea in this instance not to help those who can't help themselves Mauserme. Glad you are still putting forth the 110% effort to save us from them.

[mauserme]

On 1/8/2023 at 4:12 PM, spec5 said:

Good idea in this instance not to help those who can't help themselves Mauserme. Glad you are still putting forth the 110% effort to save us from them.

 

It's good to see you here my friend.  Been meaning to text you about things.

 

 

[Matt B]

Gun controllers not happy with the Senate version

[Upholder]

Quote

* The Speaker’s spokesperson says this statement is about both the gun bill and the reproductive rights bill passed by the House last week…

Speaker Welch’s Statement on Senate Proposals

“As Speaker of the House I will stand firm in our values and principles as Democrats. I will fight for the needs of Illinoisans and I will not accept a watered-down version of legislation that falls unacceptably short of the comprehensive solutions that the people of this state deserve.”

 

[davel501]

We should just ask them to pass the house version so we can get this fight started. 

 

In my perfect world all of the gun groups sign on as plaintiffs so they know how bad they messed up. 

[Evil Porkchop]

On 1/8/2023 at 4:26 PM, Upholder said:

 

Good, let them fight. 

[Matt B]

Someone’s gonna have to blink or they aren’t getting this done in the lame duck.

[Molly B.]

https://capitolfax.com/2023/01/08/speaker-welch-flatly-rejects-senate-proposals-on-guns-reproductive-rights/

* The Speaker’s spokesperson clarified that this statement is about both the gun bill and the reproductive rights bill passed by the House last week…

Speaker Welch’s Statement on Senate Proposals

“As Speaker of the House I will stand firm in our values and principles as Democrats. I will fight for the needs of Illinoisans and I will not accept a watered-down version of legislation that falls unacceptably short of the comprehensive solutions that the people of this state deserve.”

[Molly B.]

 

 

UPDATED x2 - Senate proposal introduced *** Advocates pressure Senators to support House-passed assault weapons ban as-is

Sunday, Jan 8, 2023 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Background on Dr. Baum is here. The Senate Democrats have shown some reluctance to support the House-approved assault weapons ban as-is, so this robocall is just one aspect of the proponents’ advocacy efforts. Other things are happening as well, but the main message is that the advocates want the bill passed as-is. The Senate has balked at House language requiring FOID holders to disclose serial numbers of their grandfathered assault weapons, apparently because this would be too much like formal gun registration, which Illinois doesn’t currently have. Advocates say deleting or altering the House language would gut the ban.

Anyway, here is one of the calls targeting Democratic voters in every Senate district yesterday and today…

 

[springfield shooter]

On 1/8/2023 at 4:35 PM, Molly B. said:

 

 

UPDATED x2 - Senate proposal introduced *** Advocates pressure Senators to support House-passed assault weapons ban as-is

Sunday, Jan 8, 2023 - Posted by Rich Miller

* Background on Dr. Baum is here. The Senate Democrats have shown some reluctance to support the House-approved assault weapons ban as-is, so this robocall is just one aspect of the proponents’ advocacy efforts. Other things are happening as well, but the main message is that the advocates want the bill passed as-is. The Senate has balked at House language requiring FOID holders to disclose serial numbers of their grandfathered assault weapons, apparently because this would be too much like formal gun registration, which Illinois doesn’t currently have. Advocates say deleting or altering the House language would gut the ban.

Anyway, here is one of the calls targeting Democratic voters in every Senate district yesterday and today…

 

 

It is formal gun registration. And they know it.

[ilphil]

On 1/8/2023 at 4:24 PM, Matt B said:

Gun controllers not happy with the Senate version

Cry me a river. Gun rights supporters aren't happy with any of this drivel.

[spec5]

On 1/8/2023 at 4:19 PM, mauserme said:

 

It's good to see you here my friend.  Been meaning to text you about things.

 

 

Thanks. You and Valinda are the best. Most have no idea how much you give of yourselves and your time for us. A commitment to us that would have most others committed. Lol.

[kevinmcc]

Video is up by the way.

 

https://www.ilga.gov/senateaudvid.asp#

[Upholder]

Senate will convene in 10 minutes.

[Molly B.]

Grab the popcorn and 3D glasses!!  This should be a good one!

[357]

Paid for by Bloomberg to push his agenda. This has nothing to do with protecting Illinois communities, who are they kidding. He is a Bloomberg paid propagandist.

[GunCollector]

my video feed shows an empty chamber.   Have they started yet?

 

[Upholder]

The 10 minute announcement was apparently premature.  The feed is not showing anything yet.

[GunCollector]

Thanks!

[ILgunguy]

And now Pritzger is upset about the senate bill.. From CapitolFax

 

https://capitolfax.com/2023/01/08/pritzker-says-enough-is-enough-claims-senate-gun-bill-falls-short/

 

From Gov. Pritzker…

Every time a weapon of war is used to inflict the maximum amount of damage in the shortest amount of time we mourn for the lives lost and communities shattered.
 
Enough is enough.
 
The people of this state deserve a real assault weapons ban, one that has a real accounting of the weapons currently in circulation and a real chance at ceasing the flow of more weapons of war immediately. We need a bill that meets the urgency of now and the current version in the Senate falls short

Rich Philips calls the statement a blatant veto threat.

[steveTA84]

Pritzker furious LOL 

 

 

[spec5]

If you have owned a firearm and hunt, target practice, use it for self defense or any other legal means and IT hasn't committed a crime how does registration of it's serial number make it less likely for your FIREARM to commit a crime? My firearms say they haven't been violent. My firearms are chill. 

[Upholder]

Oh, I can just imagine the fury if he vetoes the senate version.   Bring it.