soundguy Posted March 20, 2020 at 09:41 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 09:41 PM I read it’s until 7 April. 2 1/2 weeks. It's kinda like when everyone goes on vacation for the same two August weeks in France... Except for the damp spring weather. It's a great time to get all that stuff done that never gets done. Even it that means binging on "Leave It To Beaver". ALWAYS look on the bright side of life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illini2A312 Posted March 20, 2020 at 09:49 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 09:49 PM This makes me wonder, will FFL's and gun stores stay open? What will happen to people waiting for their transfers to be approved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:00 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:00 PM · Hidden by Molly B., March 20, 2020 at 10:16 PM - No reason given Hidden by Molly B., March 20, 2020 at 10:16 PM - No reason given This makes me wonder, will FFL's and gun stores stay open? What will happen to people waiting for their transfers to be approved?Pretty sure they are considered nonessential and will be closed. Businesses will be easier to enforce fines and penalties on than individuals. Link to comment
Tip Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:03 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:03 PM “Non-essential” businesses must close. No definition anywhere as to what is “Essential” and what is “Non-essential”.......... Y’know, most every small business I know of is essential to the survival of the owner.... Is a plumber essential but a big box store where you can buy (and then install) your own replacement toilet non-essential? Anybody got a link to the actual order??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragsbo Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:10 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:10 PM Wait till all of the panic/emergency is over with and see how much of the dictatorial power they grabbed they keep! That will show you what their actual goals were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:15 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:15 PM This makes me wonder, will FFL's and gun stores stay open? What will happen to people waiting for their transfers to be approved? Firearm and ammunition suppliers and retailers are exempt from the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:16 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:16 PM “Non-essential” businesses must close. No definition anywhere as to what is “Essential” and what is “Non-essential”.......... Y’know, most every small business I know of is essential to the survival of the owner.... Is a plumber essential but a big box store where you can buy (and then install) your own replacement toilet non-essential? Anybody got a link to the actual order??? Both would be able to continue. file:///C:/Users/George/Desktop/21288-Gov._Pritzker_Stay_at_Home_Order.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:20 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:20 PM “Non-essential” businesses must close. No definition anywhere as to what is “Essential” and what is “Non-essential”.......... Y’know, most every small business I know of is essential to the survival of the owner.... Is a plumber essential but a big box store where you can buy (and then install) your own replacement toilet non-essential? Anybody got a link to the actual order???Don;t have the actual order yet but the snippet I have seen shows most retail businesses will be exempt - hardware stores, plumbing, etc. is considered essential. Electronic, household appliances, persona hygiene products, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:20 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:20 PM “Non-essential” businesses must close. No definition anywhere as to what is “Essential” and what is “Non-essential”.......... Y’know, most every small business I know of is essential to the survival of the owner.... Is a plumber essential but a big box store where you can buy (and then install) your own replacement toilet non-essential? Anybody got a link to the actual order??? Both would be able to continue. file:///C:/Users/George/Desktop/21288-Gov._Pritzker_Stay_at_Home_Order.pdf Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade13 Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:22 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:22 PM “Non-essential” businesses must close. No definition anywhere as to what is “Essential” and what is “Non-essential”.......... Y’know, most every small business I know of is essential to the survival of the owner.... Is a plumber essential but a big box store where you can buy (and then install) your own replacement toilet non-essential? Anybody got a link to the actual order???Essential and non-essential are defined at this site that the Governor created for COVID19 news: https://www2.illinois.gov/Pages/news-item.aspx?ReleaseID=21288 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coiled Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:22 PM Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:22 PM This makes me wonder, will FFL's and gun stores stay open? What will happen to people waiting for their transfers to be approved? Firearm and ammunition suppliers and retailers are exempt from the order. So that means they can stay open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blade13 Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:24 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:24 PM “Non-essential” businesses must close. No definition anywhere as to what is “Essential” and what is “Non-essential”.......... Y’know, most every small business I know of is essential to the survival of the owner.... Is a plumber essential but a big box store where you can buy (and then install) your own replacement toilet non-essential? Anybody got a link to the actual order???Don;t have the actual order yet but the snippet I have seen shows most retail businesses will be exempt - hardware stores, plumbing, etc. is considered essential. Electronic, household appliances, persona hygiene products, etc. How long is the order supposed to last for? That's the info i can't seem to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:31 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:31 PM Until April 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutsidr Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:46 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:46 PM I wonder if I'm less likely to be stopped and asked for my papers if I'm in my car or on my bicycle when I commute to work on Monday .FYI, today while leaving work (big phone company) I was given two documents from DHS. One identifies me as someone keeping the communications networks working, the other specifies that in case of rationing, I am authorized to purchase fuel for my vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash7 Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:49 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:49 PM Until April 7th. Until they damn well feel like it. (fixed that for you) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash7 Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:49 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:49 PM Until April 7th. Until they damn well feel like it. (fixed that for you) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcable2 Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:50 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:50 PM Really wish we could find a lawyer who would challenge this unconstitutional order. It clearly violates the First and Fifth Amendments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANDY Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:55 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 10:55 PM Looks like this closes my lawnmower repair business leaving me with no income for the immediate future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted March 20, 2020 at 11:08 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 11:08 PM And now I'm being told I cannot leave my house unless on "government approved" business. This statement is not true in Illinois, California, New York or anywhere else. Please, don't add to the hysteria. California and New York have been more like Soviet Russia for quite some time. Anyone notice it's only states that are 100% controlled by leftist Democrats who have put in place these authoritarian "huge government" edicts? Those who think that the "elite" are better than the "common man" and freedom isn't actually important? Freedom is far more important than some virus. If I get the virus and die, that's on me, but it's my decision on what I do, not the big government's!!! And the hysteria is the media's fault. I had the flu a few months ago. I felt awful for 2 days, kinda bad for 5-7 more, and then all was well. It was no big deal. For most people, the virus itself will be no big deal. But the government imposed destruction of the entire US Economy and the entire US way of life is far, far worse than the thing they're trying to cure. It is an excuse for those who love power to take even more power at the expense of every American. By the way, I see that Gun Stores are not included as essential, but abortion centers are considered essential. This is a political move, as is everything JB and Illinois does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crash7 Posted March 20, 2020 at 11:16 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 11:16 PM I may have missed it in his highnesses decree... will food places (not grocery stores) still be open for drive thru/curb service? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cope Posted March 20, 2020 at 11:20 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 11:20 PM If you read the actual EO.... theres very few jobs NOT considered essential.......... you cant get a tattoo, haircut, or go to the gym. Seems every other job known to man is considered essential according to the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted March 20, 2020 at 11:35 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 11:35 PM https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6816325-EO-2020-10.html no copy/paste but firearms and ammunition are on page 6 The state only has QA posted on EO site and not the actual order...how hard is that to do? They fixed link, but still no copy/ paste https://www2.illinois.gov/Documents/ExecOrders/2020/ExecutiveOrder-2020-10.pdf n. Supplies for Essential Businesses and Operations. Businesses that sell, manufacture, or supply other Essential Businesses and Operations with the support or materials necessa1Y to operate, including computers, audio and video electronics, household appliances; IT and telecommunication equipment; hardware, paint, flat glass; electrical, plumbing and heating material; sanitary' equipment; personal hygiene products; food, food additives, ingredients and components; medical and offhopedic equipment; optics and photography equipment; diagnostics, food and beverages, chemicals, soaps and detergent; and firearm and ammunition suppliers and retailers for purposes of safety and security; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted March 20, 2020 at 11:47 PM Share Posted March 20, 2020 at 11:47 PM California and New York have been more like Soviet Russia for quite some time. Anyone notice it's only states that are 100% controlled by leftist Democrats who have put in place these authoritarian "huge government" edicts? Those who think that the "elite" are better than the "common man" and freedom isn't actually important? Freedom is far more important than some virus. If I get the virus and die, that's on me, but it's my decision on what I do, not the big government's!!! And the hysteria is the media's fault. I had the flu a few months ago. I felt awful for 2 days, kinda bad for 5-7 more, and then all was well. It was no big deal. For most people, the virus itself will be no big deal. But the government imposed destruction of the entire US Economy and the entire US way of life is far, far worse than the thing they're trying to cure. It is an excuse for those who love power to take even more power at the expense of every American. You do not have the right to spread a disease with a higher percentage of severity and mortality than most. This is more lethal than the common flu. In comparison, you might have the right to shoot yourself, you do not have the right to shoot your family and/or neighbors Some how virtually everyone in government from the President to mayors are in on the plot to destroy the economy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarandCollector Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:00 AM Share Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:00 AM Here in Georgia, we have 485 cases and 14 deaths but we are not in a state-wide lock down. There are a few cities that have various degrees of lock downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngChi Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:08 AM Share Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:08 AM Here in Georgia, we have 485 cases and 14 deaths but we are not in a state-wide lock down. There are a few cities that have various degrees of lock downs.just wait- coming to a town near you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLOCK22 Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:14 AM Share Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:14 AM I work in management at a home improvement store, and you can bet your a@@ if you are not a contractor or there for materials and goods for an emergency home repair, you will be escorted out by me personally..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cope Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:18 AM Share Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:18 AM so you believe theres a differnce between a contractor picking up floor tile and a homeowner picking up floor tile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70Olds442 Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:23 AM Share Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:23 AM If you look at section "n" of the order: EXECUTIVE ORDER IN RESPONSE TO COVID-19 (COVID-19 EXECUTIVE ORDER NO. 8) it states the following (note the last sentence)... Supplies for Essential Businesses and Operations. Businesses that sell,manufacture, or supply other Essential Businesses and Operations with thesupport or materials necessary to operate, including computers, audio and videoelectronics, household appliances; IT and telecommunication equipment;hardware, paint, flat glass; electrical, plumbing and heating material; sanitaryequipment; personal hygiene products; food, food additives, ingredients andcomponents; medical and orthopedic equipment; optics and photographyequipment; diagnostics, food and beverages, chemicals, soaps and detergent; andfirearm and ammunition suppliers and retailers for purposes of safety andsecurity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:23 AM Share Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:23 AM I work in management at a home improvement store, and you can bet your a@@ if you are not a contractor or there for materials and goods for an emergency home repair, you will be escorted out by me personally..... Be nice to know where so we don’t inadvertently darken your door — either now of after this is all over.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnwfan3 Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:30 AM Share Posted March 21, 2020 at 12:30 AM And now I'm being told I cannot leave my house unless on "government approved" business. This statement is not true in Illinois, California, New York or anywhere else. Please, don't add to the hysteria. California and New York have been more like Soviet Russia for quite some time. Anyone notice it's only states that are 100% controlled by leftist Democrats who have put in place these authoritarian "huge government" edicts? Those who think that the "elite" are better than the "common man" and freedom isn't actually important? Freedom is far more important than some virus. If I get the virus and die, that's on me, but it's my decision on what I do, not the big government's!!! And the hysteria is the media's fault. I had the flu a few months ago. I felt awful for 2 days, kinda bad for 5-7 more, and then all was well. It was no big deal. For most people, the virus itself will be no big deal. But the government imposed destruction of the entire US Economy and the entire US way of life is far, far worse than the thing they're trying to cure. It is an excuse for those who love power to take even more power at the expense of every American. By the way, I see that Gun Stores are not included as essential, but abortion centers are considered essential. This is a political move, as is everything JB and Illinois does. Guns stores are in the essential list n. Supplies for Essential Businesses and Operations. Businesses that sell, manufacture, or supply other Essential Businesses and Operations with the support or materials necessary to operate, including computers, audio and video electronics, household appliances; IT and telecommunication equipment; hardware, paint, flat glass; electrical, plumbing and heating material; sanitary equipment; personal hygiene products; food, food additives, ingredients and components; medical and orthopedic equipment; optics and photography equipment; diagnostics, food and beverages, chemicals, soaps and detergent; and firearm and ammunition suppliers and retailers for purposes of safety and security; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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