Robert Hunter Biden Indicted

[mab22]

So the real curve ball in all of this is something forgotten.

let this roll around a bit.

 

Hunter was on an oil and gas board in Ukraine and has pretty much admitted he wouldn’t have gotten the job if not for dear old dad and his last name. 
Here is an article from USA Today about slow Joes statement and bragging about how he got someone fired.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/10/21/fact-check-joe-biden-leveraged-ukraine-aid-oust-corrupt-prosecutor/5991434002/

SO WHATS THE POINT!?
 

Hunter knows ALL ABOUT what happened in Ukraine, and all the other “THINGS”, like with China and Russia.

Do you think Hunter would go to jail and keep quiet, or do you think he has Barry, slow Joe, and most of the democrats by the short ones? 
When the election is over, Slow Joe will pardon Hunter, or who ever is running the White House at the time.

All the rest of it won’t matter. 

You can thank Bongino for that one.
 

[soundguy]

On 6/12/2024 at 11:09 PM, mab22 said:

So the real curve ball in all of this is something forgotten...

 

You may have consumed too much KoolAid.

 

It is unlikely Papa Biden will pardon his son or commute his sentence.

 

Cheers,

Tim

[mab22]

Looks like the nerve has been struck…. 
Barry 

Barry

Barry

[richp]

Biden can say anything he wants right now. If the conviction is still on the books, he will pardon his son before he goes out of office one way or the other.

 

Politically, he has very little if anything to lose here. His base will not desert him because a father is taking care of his son. He might even pick up some independents on a compassionate basis. And those who identify as Republicans are not going to vote for him anyway, so he won't lose anything with them.

 

What is more interesting, is the tax charges that have yet to go to trial.

[Tip]

I’d say it depends upon the election but it really doesn’t - Hunter will get pardoned right after the election.
Should he lose he’ll pardon Hunter before he leaves office, should he win he’ll pardon Hunter — either way repercussions would no longer matter.

[mauserme]

Normally I wouldn't expect a pardon, but it would moot a Constitutional challenge to the law.  I wonder if any anti-gun groups are whispering in his ear about this.

 

Still, there would be a couple other circuit decisions to deal with even with a pardon.

 

 

[RandyP]

If I were advising POTUS - the poor sad senile man that he is - I'd suggest he give his son AND Donald Trump full pardons for all crimes, past and present. Just to drive both sides nutz.

[soundguy]

Sleepy Joe Biden has a strong sense of ethics, something lacking in many politicians. When he says he will not pardon his son nor commute his sentence, I believe him. Should he change his mind later on… I would be disappointed, as would most of those who prefer a man with a strong sense of ethics in the White House for the next four years.
 

Ethics trumps the heck out of the grievance train of the other candidate. 
 

Cheers,

Tim

[Smallbore]

On 6/13/2024 at 8:35 PM, soundguy said:

Sleepy Joe Biden has a strong sense of ethics, something lacking in many politicians. When he says he will not pardon his son nor commute his sentence, I believe him. Should he change his mind later on… I would be disappointed, as would most of those who prefer a man with a strong sense of ethics in the White House for the next four years.
 

Ethics trumps the heck out of the grievance train of the other candidate. 
 

Cheers,

Tim

WHO has a strong sense of ethics???

[soundguy]

On 6/13/2024 at 8:49 PM, Smallbore said:

WHO has a strong sense of ethics???

In case you missed it, President Joe Biden has a strong sense of ethics. 
 

Cheers,

Tim

[yurimodin]

On 6/13/2024 at 9:00 PM, soundguy said:

In case you missed it, President Joe Biden has a strong sense of ethics. 
 

Cheers,

Tim

I really doubt that anyone could thrive for 4 decades in the senate and keep their soul let alone ethics

[davel501]

On 6/13/2024 at 9:00 PM, soundguy said:

In case you missed it, President Joe Biden has a strong sense of ethics. 
 

Cheers,

Tim

 

He's a politician. 

 

[soundguy]

On 6/13/2024 at 9:44 PM, davel501 said:

He's a politician.

 

Yes, he is a politician. So is the other guy.

 

Re that sense of ethics that Biden has and the other guy does not have... it is something that many politicians and other regular folks lack. A few of the recent crop of RINOs seem to have a strong sense of ethics, Adam Kinsinger and Liz Cheney to drop a couple of names. Apparently that NY Democrat on trial, Ortiz, is lacking. Republican Rep Sanchez has less than zero sense of ethics. Sen McConnell seems to have only a weak sense of ethics. Former Gov Blagojevich also lacks a sense of ethics.

 

Cheers,

Tim

 

 

[davel501]

[ragsbo]

On 6/14/2024 at 12:04 AM, davel501 said:

Anyone else want to smack that stupid grin off his ugly mug????

[Tip]

EVERYBODY has a sense of ethics - whether it’s a good sense of ethics or a bad sense of ethics relies not on THEM but on whether YOU agree with them. 
Those who see no harm in what a thief and scoundrel does would think their sense of ethics to be good, while those who think the actions of a thief and scoundrel to be atrocious would think their sense of ethics to be bad.

’Nuff Said.

[Upholder]

On 6/13/2024 at 9:00 PM, soundguy said:

In case you missed it, President Joe Biden has a strong sense of ethics. 

 

I think his ethics are not up to the job -- they took the 10% for the big guy and he then lied about being involved in Hunter's "business dealings".

[Upholder]

On 6/13/2024 at 9:00 PM, soundguy said:

In case you missed it, President Joe Biden has a strong sense of ethics. 

 

More to the point of this discussion board -- his strong sense of ethics is certainly no impediment to his constant attacks on our enumerated, protected civil right to keep and bear arms.

[Yeti]

On 6/14/2024 at 8:51 AM, Upholder said:

 

More to the point of this discussion board -- his strong sense of ethics is certainly no impediment to his constant attacks on our enumerated, protected civil right to keep and bear arms.

Well said and fully agree.  We can debate whether or not a strong sense of ethics is displayed with a documented history of chronic lying, but ignoring President Biden’s attacks on the 2A and the Democratic party’s position on gun rights is deprioritizing the main focus of this discussion board (and the need for it) and the fight for 2A rights.

[Smallbore]

On 6/13/2024 at 9:00 PM, soundguy said:

In case you missed it, President Joe Biden has a strong sense of ethics. 
 

Cheers,

Tim

You mean the same guy who plagiarized his way to a college diploma. 

[mauserme]

On 6/14/2024 at 8:51 AM, Upholder said:

 

More to the point of this discussion board -- his strong sense of ethics is certainly no impediment to his constant attacks on our enumerated, protected civil right to keep and bear arms.

 

On 6/14/2024 at 11:31 AM, Yeti said:

Well said and fully agree.  We can debate whether or not a strong sense of ethics is displayed with a documented history of chronic lying, but ignoring President Biden’s attacks on the 2A and the Democratic party’s position on gun rights is deprioritizing the main focus of this discussion board (and the need for it) and the fight for 2A rights.

 

Thanks for bringing it back to a gun rights conversation 🙂

 

 

[Euler]

CNN said:→

Hunter Biden asked a judge for a redo of his federal gun trial, but then quickly withdrew the request without explanation, one week after he was convicted by a jury of three felony offenses.

His defense attorneys filed the motion seeking a new trial in the morning but then told the court to remove it from the docket, without publicly providing a reason. Biden's lawyers have not responded to requests for comment.

The now-removed court filings argued that there was a technical hiccup with the courts, related to Hunter Biden's pretrial appeals, that should've prevented the trial judge from proceeding to a jury trial in Delaware. This challenge is similar to several of Biden's previous legal gambits to delay or derail the case, which have all fallen flat in court.

"The Court empaneled a jury and proceeded to trial before the Court of Appeals returned jurisdiction to the Court by issuing its mandate. Consequently, the conviction must be vacated here," Hunter Biden's lawyers told the trial judge in the Monday filing, which was reviewed by CNN before it was removed from the docket.
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These latest legal maneuvers relate to what's called a "mandate." When an appellate court hands down a decision, it notifies the lower court of that decision by issuing a "mandate," often a couple days or weeks later. This mechanism is typically how the lower court gets back jurisdiction for the case, to proceed with the case as appropriate.

In this case, Hunter Biden's lawyers claimed in the Monday filing that even though they lost their pretrial appeals, the 3rd US Circuit Court of Appeals never issued its final "mandate" that would've returned the case back to District Judge Maryellen Noreika. She presided over a jury trial that began June 3 and ended last week with guilty verdicts on all charges.

Noreika said in previous rulings that she believes Biden's appeals "will not independently divest this Court of jurisdiction" and that her trial court and the federal appellate court "shall have jurisdiction to proceed."
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[Euler]

Pour me another one just like the other one.

CNN said:→

Hunter Biden is requesting a new trial in his federal gun case, with his lawyers claiming that there was a procedural issue in the timing of the early June trial that resulted in a guilty verdict against him.

His lawyers claim that the trial court did not have jurisdiction over his case because of appeals that he had filed challenging his prosecution. The defense team says that the conviction must be wiped away because, even though the appeals court had rejected the appeals by the time the trial started, it had not issued what's known as a "mandate" -- the procedural maneuver that effectively notifies a lower court of ruling made by a higher court in an appeal.

Biden's lawyers are pointing to the absence of a mandate sending the case back to the trial court after the 3rd US Circuit Court of Appeals handed down rulings rejecting two of his appeals in late May.
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[Euler]

CNN said:→

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Federal Judge Maryellen Noreika has scheduled the sentencing proceeding in Delaware's federal court for November 13, according to an order from the court on Friday. Election Day is November 5.

The timing keeps the consequence of Hunter Biden's conviction hanging over the election season, as his father, President Joe Biden, is still likely to play a significant role politically even though he is no longer running for reelection.

Hunter Biden faces a maximum sentence of up to 25 years in prison and a fine of up to $750,000 at sentencing.

He also faces an upcoming second federal criminal trial, on tax charges in California, that could complicate his sentencing. That trial is currently scheduled to take place in September.
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