Black Flag Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:15 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:15 AM Dear Friend, I wanted to reach out and give you an update on what happened in Springfield this past week. As you know, we had hoped to see a vote in the House of Representatives on HB 1016 – our Gun Dealer Licensing legislation. However, due to a dirty procedural maneuver by the other side, the House was unable to hold a fair vote on the bill this session. Although this is a setback, we now have a clear roadmap to pass this life saving measure moving forward. Stand with us to show your continued support for Gun Dealer Licensing by clicking here to take action. Despite 87% of Illinois voters supporting Gun Dealer Licensing the House of Representatives instead chose to cower before the corporate gun lobby and passed legislation last night what would allow for silencers on all guns in Illinois. We are currently doubling our efforts in the Illinois Senate to stop this dangerous and irresponsible legislation. Click here to see how your legislator voted. On a positive note, the General Assembly unanimously passed legislation that would increase penalties for individuals trafficking firearms onto our streets and killing innocent people. We applaud them on this effort and encourage the Governor to be responsible and sign this important piece of the legislation into law. We obviously have a lot of work ahead of us, but I wanted to bring you up to speed on what has been happening in Springfield.Together we will continue to go forward fighting for stronger gun violence prevention measures in Illinois. Thank you for your continued support. In Peace, Colleen Daley Executive Director P.S. – Tomorrow is National Gun Violence Awareness Day don’t forget to #WearOrange to show your support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:17 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:17 AM Waaaaaaaa. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:22 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:22 AM ROTFLMAO!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk5 Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:29 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:29 AM What a line of Bull Carp. Sore losers that we have to keep fighting. Surrender, Like HE double hockey sticks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaeghl Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:31 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:31 AM Colleen, if you wrote that message, you are a liar, shut your lying mouth. 87% my left but&%$#ek. Go ahead, you anti rights sneaks that troll this website, tell her I said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoverGunner Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:32 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:32 AM I see Butt Hurt , Delusional and desperationI want to know how the came up with the 87% pollI would like to see her publicly called out on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:49 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:49 AM I wonder why she didn't point out that the gun trafficking bill was supported by the all-powerful god-like corporate gun lobby? Maybe the sheeple that look to them for guidance would see that when sane efforts to lower crime are made, gun owners are happy to help. Shocker! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:52 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:52 AM Love the Links Black Flag! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:59 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 04:59 AM The level of disrespect they have for the very people that tried to shield Ms. Willis is amazing. Members of her own party left the chamber rather than embarrass her by voting against her 6th attempt to get it right. Now they're accused of a dirty procedural maneuver, and of being "the other side" simply because they did what they knew to be right. Things like this typify why they lose. The blame for this fiasco is as much on the groups that led the sponsor down this rabbit hole as it is on the sponsor herself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic6010 Posted June 2, 2016 at 05:08 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 05:08 AM Hah, yeah its 87%. More like 87% of the 200 anti gun Chicagoans that they polled to get that horse manure number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mata777 Posted June 2, 2016 at 05:20 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 05:20 AM Oh cry me a river, what a bunch of losers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishjames Posted June 2, 2016 at 05:26 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 05:26 AM What "dirty procedural maneuver" is she whining about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted June 2, 2016 at 10:38 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 10:38 AM Dirty procedural maneuver? Like using a "shell bill" ? As Representative Mike Bost reminded the General Legislature, a Floor Amendment should be some technical small change - not a WHOLE BILL that has questions as to whether it is even constitutional.. Wow - they're the one crying "foul" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobPistol Posted June 2, 2016 at 10:39 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 10:39 AM What "dirty procedural maneuver" is she whining about? When the people rose up and filed witness slips in opposition to the bill? The horror! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gLockedandLoaded Posted June 2, 2016 at 11:04 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 11:04 AM There's lies, damn lies, and STATISTICS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirflyguy Posted June 2, 2016 at 11:33 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 11:33 AM Dirty procedural maneuver? Like using a "shell bill" ? As Representative Mike Bost reminded the General Legislature, a Floor Amendment should be some technical small change - not a WHOLE BILL that has questions as to whether it is even constitutional.. Wow - they're the one crying "foul" ?When they lose, they whine. They cannot just lose because they were outfought. There always has to be dirty tricks involved. This is their way, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted June 2, 2016 at 11:41 AM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 11:41 AM Put Trump vs Hillary on hold for a second. I want to see a Vandermyde vs Daley debate. Have it in a neutral location, she can invite 50 audience members as well as Todd. Molly can be a moderator and Mark Walsh can be the other, if a 3rd is needed a Daley/Vandermyde mutual agreed 3rd neutral moderator can be instilled. An hour and a half with 4 minute clock on answers, 2 minutes for rebuttal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARFACE Posted June 2, 2016 at 12:06 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 12:06 PM Here Colleen, this will make you feel betterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyGWEcqY96E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hap Posted June 2, 2016 at 12:06 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 12:06 PM Colleen:Thanks for the reminder to wear IC/NRA/ISRA/IGOLD regalia today. I do feel much safer now that killing innocent people is more illegaler than it was before. Question: does this mean that if I get shot by some gang-banger with an illegal firearm that I will be less dead than otherwise, or is that the subject of some future stroke of legislative genius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiskeyRebel Posted June 2, 2016 at 12:51 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 12:51 PM Can I put member of the gun lobby on my resume now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgibson61611 Posted June 2, 2016 at 12:52 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 12:52 PM Dear Friend, I wanted to reach out and give you an update on what happened in Springfield this past week. As you know, we had hoped to see a vote in the House of Representatives on HB 1016 – our Gun Dealer Licensing legislation. However, due to a dirty procedural maneuver by the other side, the House was unable to hold a fair vote on the bill this session. Although this is a setback, we now have a clear roadmap to pass this life saving measure moving forward. Stand with us to show your continued support for Gun Dealer Licensing by clicking here to take action. Despite 87% of Illinois voters supporting Gun Dealer Licensing the House of Representatives instead chose to cower before the corporate gun lobby and passed legislation last night what would allow for silencers on all guns in Illinois. We are currently doubling our efforts in the Illinois Senate to stop this dangerous and irresponsible legislation. Click here to see how your legislator voted. On a positive note, the General Assembly unanimously passed legislation that would increase penalties for individuals trafficking firearms onto our streets and killing innocent people. We applaud them on this effort and encourage the Governor to be responsible and sign this important piece of the legislation into law. We obviously have a lot of work ahead of us, but I wanted to bring you up to speed on what has been happening in Springfield.Together we will continue to go forward fighting for stronger gun violence prevention measures in Illinois. Thank you for your continued support. In Peace, Colleen Daley Executive Director P.S. – Tomorrow is National Gun Violence Awareness Day don’t forget to #WearOrange to show your support. Our greatest challenge may be that many people might regard this nonsense as fact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted June 2, 2016 at 12:56 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 12:56 PM Colleen has a warped word view which prevents her from seeing the real problem. Since she can't see the real problem she can never arrive at a real solution. She and her followers bounce between basking in righteous indignation and wallowing in their imagined victimhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FieldGL Posted June 2, 2016 at 12:58 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 12:58 PM Bye Felicia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairie Pucker Posted June 2, 2016 at 01:34 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 01:34 PM Typical ploy of the Democrats. First, find and create a "victim." Then identify a "villain." Congratulations, Colleen. You're both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted June 2, 2016 at 01:39 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 01:39 PM does this mean that if I get shot beaten to death by some gang-banger with an illegal firearm that I will be less dead than otherwise, or is that the subject of some future stroke of legislative genius? The other circumstances that Colleen never addresses. It doesn't matter who dies or how they're killed as long as a firearm isn't used. So if your loved one was brutally beaten to death, strangled or stabbed to death - their life is less important than someone who was shot. When someone is beaten to death in Chicago - not a word is heard from Colleen Daley, Scott Drury, Michael Zalewski, Don Harmon, Eddie Acevedo, Lee Goodman and all the other gun control proponents. When someone is stabbed to death in Chicago - not a peep from Colleen Daley, Drury, Zalewski, Harmon, Acevedo, Goodman and all the others. But when someone is shot, up goes the chorus of shrill screams for gun control. The media will never call them out for their hypocrisy, but the fact is, they're OK with violence, it's just "gun violence" that they're opposed to. They're OK with people getting their skulls cracked with pipes, lug wrenches and assorted bludgeons, being beaten to death, and raped at knife point, but God forbid law abiding citizens be armed - some thug might get shot and that is intolerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tvandermyde Posted June 2, 2016 at 01:49 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 01:49 PM Let me put this is to a little context. Ms. Daley is lying. Yes guys onour side saw an opportunity to kill the bill. And they took it. I also expressed some fear as it gave them a road map on votes they didn't have before which they acknowledge. However, She and others, including the chairman of the committee were huddled up trying to cut a deal with people. And there was some deal on a small part of language which we -- gun owners were not apart of. Ms. Daley was part of the group. When the "agreed to" language came back from LRB, it was not the agreed to language. And it was called out. The Chairman was shown the two documents and asked if that was what was talked about and agreed to. He said no. So between the meeting, someone changed that language. Now that could only be the sponsor, who didn't. The LRB which didn't or little miss muffet -- bingo. and her statement was something to the effect that she didn't think her changes made that mush of a difference or such. And that put a stop to any chance of them calling the bill. They had no more time for any amendments and people were just done. Even people on her side. She screwed it up because she has no clue about the industry and how it works. And they keep playing games and it cost them. People in that room know what happened. And people on the outside are finding out. If this goes tot the floor debate I expect this little episode to be brought up. These are the things that go on that we deal with in real time. Shifting sands and 3 dimensional chess board with a lot of moving pieces. But I love having an opponent that is clueless and borderline incompetent. In this business you have your word and your name. If the first isn't any good neither is the second. She committed a very serious error in the world I work in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted June 2, 2016 at 02:02 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 02:02 PM Thanks Todd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted June 2, 2016 at 02:06 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 02:06 PM Let me put this is to a little context. Ms. Daley is lying. Yes guys onour side saw an opportunity to kill the bill. And they took it. I also expressed some fear as it gave them a road map on votes they didn't have before which they acknowledge. However, She and others, including the chairman of the committee were huddled up trying to cut a deal with people. And there was some deal on a small part of language which we -- gun owners were not apart of. Ms. Daley was part of the group. When the "agreed to" language came back from LRB, it was not the agreed to language. And it was called out. The Chairman was shown the two documents and asked if that was what was talked about and agreed to. He said no. So between the meeting, someone changed that language. Now that could only be the sponsor, who didn't. The LRB which didn't or little miss muffet -- bingo. and her statement was something to the effect that she didn't think her changes made that mush of a difference or such. And that put a stop to any chance of them calling the bill. They had no more time for any amendments and people were just done. Even people on her side. She screwed it up because she has no clue about the industry and how it works. And they keep playing games and it cost them. People in that room know what happened. And people on the outside are finding out. If this goes tot the floor debate I expect this little episode to be brought up. These are the things that go on that we deal with in real time. Shifting sands and 3 dimensional chess board with a lot of moving pieces. But I love having an opponent that is clueless and borderline incompetent. In this business you have your word and your name. If the first isn't any good neither is the second. She committed a very serious error in the world I work in. Good! Thanks for the context Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted June 2, 2016 at 02:21 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 02:21 PM This post with TV's comments for context just made my day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianj - now in Kansas Posted June 2, 2016 at 02:23 PM Share Posted June 2, 2016 at 02:23 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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