TRJ

I'll remind you guys that when I went to the NC DMV to update my residency and get a NC license in February 2020 the girl at the desk warned me that by getting a NC license my concealed carry license in Illinois would be revoked. She said something about the systems being connected. She said this too me as she looked at her screen. I don't know if that's a boilerplate warning they offer so new residents don't get jammed up in NC with an old dead gun license or if it's in response to anything that popped up on her screen specific to me or Illinois. My wife got the same treatment, she too had an FCCL. I did send my cards and my wife's cards back to ISP. I didn't want them being outstanding to cause problems getting my new NC cards issued. My wife's card got a letter back like two weeks later from ISP acknowledging receipt and cancellation. My letter didn't come until almost a year later. Go figure.

Best of luck on the move and finding some peace in making the move out. I know I sleep better now in my purple state with a solid red house and senate. Total deadlock in the statehouse is outstanding. I was reading a story in the local paper. The school board took up a proposal to introduce some new program. They all wanted to vote for it, but one of them called out the catch. "what are we going to cut to make room in the budget because we all know taxes won't be going up and the people in the capitol won't pay for this." That was outstanding.

I tried to argue this elsewhere and was reminded that the ban outlaws purchase as well. 6-7-2: ASSAULT WEAPONS AND LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINES; POSSESSION AND SALE PROHIBITED; EXCEPTIONS: A. No person shall manufacture, sell, offer or display for sale, give, lend, transfer ownership of, acquire or possess any assault weapon or large capacity magazine.

Based upon my understanding of existing IL law this seems fairly benign. The dealer license law, red flag law, and 21 years of age law already exist at the state level. States with a more open view of gun ownership stand to see some encroachment. The guys that flip guns sold on classified ads are not going to be amused. The kids that were looking forward to their 18th birthday are being told to wait a little longer. I'm thinking that states that wanted red flags already have them, and other intervention type programs may spring up in the ones that don't to grab some federal cash.

Why not find someone who is a victim of violence the state police could have stopped, but didn't because they don't utilize the money allocated to their programs. Make the police negligent, and wrap up the state legislators who sweep the funds in the same wet blanket.

I'm still wondering if you guys who didn't cancel the cards have a nasty background check surprise waiting for you upon expiration of your old cards. Maybe some of you moved to real free states and it really doesn't matter. My new sheriff is the type that would use Illinois' report as reason to deny/revoke a local CCL.

North Carolina has racist old laws that require you to have the sheriff sell you a pistol purchase permit and certify you are of good character before you can buy a handgun. This was just like FOID as a scheme to deny a class if people if their rights.The good news is that a NC carry permit negates the need for the permit. Rifles are cash and carry.

When you apply for a DL in your new state they will cancel your IL DL with the ISP. That I turn triggers the ISP to cancel your FOID& FCCL. Sorry for all those abbreviations. My concern is the difference between revoked and canceled. Maybe I'm splitting hairs.

I sure like the idea of "cancelled" over "revoked". I'm afraid a "revoked" might haunt me elsewhere trying to get a Pistol Purchase Permit in NC, or my CCL down there. My county Sheriff makes Dart look like a choirboy.

There's also a follow up post in that thread (#22) that states this... I mailed them in on or about Nov 15. Today I got snail mail from ISP stating: This is to notify you that your Illinois Concealed Carry License is hereby CANCELLED for the following reason(s): Applicant contacted Firearms Services Bureau and advised that he/she moved out of state. So obviously they received my CCL and FOID, and my cover letter stating that I had moved.

which is this information... have a contact at ISP who said just mail FOID and CCL to: ISP Concealed Carry 801 S 7th St. Ste 400-M Springfield IL 62703

So I'm out of here in December. I'll leave my FOID and FCCL with the local cops on the way out the door. Question. What happens then? Do they get "revoked"? If I ever needed to come back to Illinois (not planning this, but you know how life is) would I be able to apply for and receive a FOID, or would I have a revoked card in my history that would burn me going forward?

I see this as a distinct possibility within 10 years, after modern sporting rifles are banned in some fashion.

What is your single, worst case scenario, if a "Full strike down" happens? Unfortunately, I think it falls under the advise we get to not discuss specifics of things of this nature openly on the board. Perhaps it would suffice to say that everything "gun and ammunition" in Illinois is woven through the FOID laws so CCL, purchase, possession, records management etc would all need to be re-worked. Our current legislature would be all too happy to re-work FOID restrictions and fee schedules into something else that just barely passes muster with the court and further screws the law abiding.

If the FOID is necessary to transport after this case, perhaps it becomes the functional equivalent to the NYC permit (the one being challenged in the USSC). If that case goes our way, FOID gets nuked.