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I'll remind you guys that when I went to the NC DMV to update my residency and get a NC license in February 2020 the girl at the desk warned me that by getting a NC license my concealed carry license in Illinois would be revoked. She said something about the systems being connected. She said this too me as she looked at her screen. I don't know if that's a boilerplate warning they offer so new residents don't get jammed up in NC with an old dead gun license or if it's in response to anything that popped up on her screen specific to me or Illinois. My wife got the same treatment, she too had an FCCL. I did send my cards and my wife's cards back to ISP. I didn't want them being outstanding to cause problems getting my new NC cards issued. My wife's card got a letter back like two weeks later from ISP acknowledging receipt and cancellation. My letter didn't come until almost a year later. Go figure.

Best of luck on the move and finding some peace in making the move out. I know I sleep better now in my purple state with a solid red house and senate. Total deadlock in the statehouse is outstanding. I was reading a story in the local paper. The school board took up a proposal to introduce some new program. They all wanted to vote for it, but one of them called out the catch. "what are we going to cut to make room in the budget because we all know taxes won't be going up and the people in the capitol won't pay for this." That was outstanding.

I tried to argue this elsewhere and was reminded that the ban outlaws purchase as well. 6-7-2: ASSAULT WEAPONS AND LARGE CAPACITY MAGAZINES; POSSESSION AND SALE PROHIBITED; EXCEPTIONS: A. No person shall manufacture, sell, offer or display for sale, give, lend, transfer ownership of, acquire or possess any assault weapon or large capacity magazine.

😢 Was my home for decades. Sad but not surprising.

This thread made my day. If the scotus kills the administrative state tomorrow this might be the best week ever for political news.

If it makes you feel any better both of my R senators in NC [Burr and Tillis] were part of the sellout that led to the first gun control bill passing in 30 years. What good is voting for "the good guys" when they backstab like that? At least you knew that you were going to get boned by yours.

Based upon my understanding of existing IL law this seems fairly benign. The dealer license law, red flag law, and 21 years of age law already exist at the state level. States with a more open view of gun ownership stand to see some encroachment. The guys that flip guns sold on classified ads are not going to be amused. The kids that were looking forward to their 18th birthday are being told to wait a little longer. I'm thinking that states that wanted red flags already have them, and other intervention type programs may spring up in the ones that don't to grab some federal cash.

I didn't have a big safe to be concerned about by the time I listed the house. Since we bought our NC place in advance of listing the IL place I was able to move a bunch of stuff to the new place first. The things left behind were packed into a microwave box left in the basement. I had a flush mounted wall box (not a safe, a metal locking cabinet) that held a long gun. The cabinet looked like a circuit breaker box, and I decorated it with a high voltage sticker to aid the illusion. That worked too well as I was fielding calls from inspectors and agents explaining it was a wall safe.

PSA had 5.56 in stock yesterday for $0.50 a round. That was the everyday price, not a sale. Norma sells .223 and 5.56 for .46 to .50 regularly. Free shipping on first orders. I'm not sure if either one ships to Illinois these days with your new check system but even if they don't the larger part of the country is being supplied by two companies that aren't bound by a government contract with the .mil. New supply on the market should be able to fill in any holes created by the shifting of any previous supplier's production.

What weight of JHP you shooting? I used to have that problem with 147 so I switched to 124 HST. Since then I've moved to 90 Lehigh solids (screwdriver tip). The 90 grain saves a little weight in my pocket, is barrier blind and has less recoil. All good things with a little carry gun.

I have my Z9 magazine. It's underwhelming. It makes the 43 nearly as tall as 43x. The whole point of the 43 is "concealed is concealed". The Z9 makes it harder to do right. I'm sticking with the factory magazine and a TT+1. The Z9 mag is fine as pocket carry back up magazine now that I own it, but I was a little quick on the draw to overpay for this thing. I'll add, the 43 was never irrelevant to me. The 365 is too small to get a grip on and too heavy for it's size fully loaded in my opinion.

I'm thinking it's just not the big deal it's being made out to be. You can still buy SS109 from Norma. It's not a ban. Norma is affordable. PSA is bringing new 5.56 supplies online as we speak.

I'm hearing it's more likely that: - M855 production being phased out or phased down due to wider production of M855A1; - DOD wanting to ensure adequate stores of M855 for LMGs during the M5 transition in case the transition is drawn out; - demand from NATO allies with lesser production capacities for ammunition due to the Russian proxy war; - diversion of some supply of that M855 to Ukraine, etc. and TTAG has only a piece of the story and is jumping to conclusions.

Why not find someone who is a victim of violence the state police could have stopped, but didn't because they don't utilize the money allocated to their programs. Make the police negligent, and wrap up the state legislators who sweep the funds in the same wet blanket.

I'm still wondering if you guys who didn't cancel the cards have a nasty background check surprise waiting for you upon expiration of your old cards. Maybe some of you moved to real free states and it really doesn't matter. My new sheriff is the type that would use Illinois' report as reason to deny/revoke a local CCL.

North Carolina has racist old laws that require you to have the sheriff sell you a pistol purchase permit and certify you are of good character before you can buy a handgun. This was just like FOID as a scheme to deny a class if people if their rights.The good news is that a NC carry permit negates the need for the permit. Rifles are cash and carry.

When you apply for a DL in your new state they will cancel your IL DL with the ISP. That I turn triggers the ISP to cancel your FOID& FCCL. Sorry for all those abbreviations. My concern is the difference between revoked and canceled. Maybe I'm splitting hairs.

I sure like the idea of "cancelled" over "revoked". I'm afraid a "revoked" might haunt me elsewhere trying to get a Pistol Purchase Permit in NC, or my CCL down there. My county Sheriff makes Dart look like a choirboy.

There's also a follow up post in that thread (#22) that states this... I mailed them in on or about Nov 15. Today I got snail mail from ISP stating: This is to notify you that your Illinois Concealed Carry License is hereby CANCELLED for the following reason(s): Applicant contacted Firearms Services Bureau and advised that he/she moved out of state. So obviously they received my CCL and FOID, and my cover letter stating that I had moved.

which is this information... have a contact at ISP who said just mail FOID and CCL to: ISP Concealed Carry 801 S 7th St. Ste 400-M Springfield IL 62703

So I'm out of here in December. I'll leave my FOID and FCCL with the local cops on the way out the door. Question. What happens then? Do they get "revoked"? If I ever needed to come back to Illinois (not planning this, but you know how life is) would I be able to apply for and receive a FOID, or would I have a revoked card in my history that would burn me going forward?

I see this as a distinct possibility within 10 years, after modern sporting rifles are banned in some fashion.

What is your single, worst case scenario, if a "Full strike down" happens? Unfortunately, I think it falls under the advise we get to not discuss specifics of things of this nature openly on the board. Perhaps it would suffice to say that everything "gun and ammunition" in Illinois is woven through the FOID laws so CCL, purchase, possession, records management etc would all need to be re-worked. Our current legislature would be all too happy to re-work FOID restrictions and fee schedules into something else that just barely passes muster with the court and further screws the law abiding.

If the FOID is necessary to transport after this case, perhaps it becomes the functional equivalent to the NYC permit (the one being challenged in the USSC). If that case goes our way, FOID gets nuked.

The longer I stay in this state the less faith I have in the process. Exposing their lies means exactly what. Nobody cares. Willis and Harmon both blatantly lie to their fellow legislators, their constituents, and the public in it's entirety. There is no honor. There's just winning at any cost. Knowing that Satan has a special place for them later isn't as fun to think about as it used to be now that their making serious infringements instead of just the little nibbles here and there.