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#1 jmeyers

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 03:25 PM

Greetings!

 

Now that everything is in order and paperwork has been served appropriately, as promised to several individuals, I would make it public.

 

Court: Sangamon County Circuit Clerk

Case: 2015 - MR - 1066

 

 

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 04:00 PM

Go get 'em

Best of luck.  We're all watching.


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 04:10 PM

Get em !!

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 04:19 PM

I love it!


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 04:22 PM

Awesome! Good luck!

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 04:25 PM

Good luck!

 

Based on a quick read, aside from the fact that you were denied any sort of hearing to state your case for keeping your license (or being able to apply as a non-resident), is one of the goals to "shrink" the state's definition of substantially similar?

 

The main thing that disqualifies most states, at least in the eyes of the ISP, are the mental health reporting requirements... and (IIRC) the thing that disqualifies Florida is that they don't report all voluntary admissions for mental health treatment; they only report voluntary admissions that result from an INvoluntary psych exam.


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 04:47 PM

Go get'em  Good luck !!


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 04:51 PM

This is so exciting, Josh! I remember well when you first floated the idea, and considering the help this could provide to many others. Glad to see this moving forward now. Yeah!!!

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 04:51 PM

Good Luck!


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 05:05 PM

@Glock23 - yes

 

While Florida doesn't report ALL, it does deny for ALL voluntary and based on some filings today over at Culp vs Madigan, the cases will eventually go hand in hand I believe.


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 05:18 PM

Nice and good luck!
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Posted 24 November 2015 - 07:08 PM

Good Luck.I hope you prevail.

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Posted 24 November 2015 - 09:58 PM

Here's hoping you can ram it down their throats and make them choke on it.

 

In a purely professional capacity of course. ;)


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Posted 24 November 2015 - 10:15 PM

For the curious amongst us, are you challenging the "substantially similar" language, or simply the notion that Florida isn't considered substantially similar by the ISP?
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Posted 24 November 2015 - 10:31 PM

Swinging from the heels!  Love it!


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Posted 25 November 2015 - 12:04 AM

Wow, that filing is a thing of beauty. I actually lost count of the ways that the ISP violated rules, laws, and procedures based on what was written in that document.


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Posted 25 November 2015 - 04:34 AM

Best of luck to you, another front they have to try to defend. I would have approached the argument differently but hope it works out for you.


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Posted 25 November 2015 - 05:29 AM

Its targeting the violations of the Administrative Code a well as the substantially similar wording.

 

There is substantial backing of this suit although I won't name names at the moment and they are the ones that helped word it :)

 

The Lead Attorney, Carl Draper is the best in Illinois when it comes to Administrative Code law, most notable case was against IDOT for firing 16 workers due to republican affiliation (Whitlow vs. The Illinois Department of Transportation)


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Posted 25 November 2015 - 05:33 AM

Very well written. I'll stay tuned.


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Posted 26 November 2015 - 12:22 PM

This case seems like a backstop if Culp fails. If Culp wins, this case should be moot.


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Posted 26 November 2015 - 07:48 PM

Good luck!

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Posted 27 November 2015 - 06:55 AM

If Culp wins, this one will be moot, however this is in State Court and most likely won't make it to federal court because of the attack angle.  We estimate this case to be through State Court by April 2016 if not sooner


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Posted 27 November 2015 - 07:14 AM

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Posted 20 December 2015 - 05:16 PM

My opinion of credibility for the ISP management just took a nose dive...

 

Best of luck with the litigation!!


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Posted 20 December 2015 - 05:47 PM

30 days is coming up fairly quick.  I suspect we'll have a motion for extension this week sometime.


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Posted 24 December 2015 - 09:57 AM

Not that it should surprise anyone but...

 

12/23/2015 Motion for Extension of Time Filed by Assistant Attorney General: OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL

 

Cant wait to see this exemplary piece of work.


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Posted 24 December 2015 - 10:08 PM

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Posted 24 December 2015 - 11:11 PM

Gods Speed

AS said earlier I cannot wait to see Princess Madigans response


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Posted 26 December 2015 - 05:20 AM

I should have a copy of the Motion Monday.  Anyone want to take bets on how eerily similar to culp and samuel it'll be?  My guess is someone got a new Copy and Paste button for christmas :0


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Posted 26 December 2015 - 07:32 AM

Hoping for maximum madiganbutthurt


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