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With the interest in suppressors these days (outside Illinois that is) they'd be printing money to come out with a modernized version of the P9, with a double stack magazine, modern trigger action and controls, etc.

I was really thinking about a Shield Plus, Smith finally put a reasonable trigger on a handgun for a change. But inability to find any spare magazines has left me waiting... now this comes along to muddy the waters, wish there was more information and an ETA on it.

It'd be easier if people actually knew what to do. Apply for FOID and CCL at the same time, then only one wait, and if she did fingerprints it would likely be faster than just applying for FOID.

How much you wanna bet the judge has at least one of them? Firearm intersectionality

Since you applied separately the applications appear to be handled separately. At one time they wouldn't even start processing the CCL until the FOID was issued, which is why it's always recommended to apply for both simultaneously. Their IT workflow leaves a lot to be desired.

Yes, it should be. No, it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be possible for this to happen at all without proper notice and a chance to be heard (preferably both informally and formally) BEFORE it's revoked. AFAIC this should be a critical legislative priority. If we're not going to get rid of the system, the system has to treat people fairly and with due process.

Following the law isn't circumventing the law. Just because someone follows the law to reach an outcome that was unanticipated by the legislature... well, that's the legislatures problem. Getting a CCL allows you to "circumvent" the law banning carry of firearms, doesn't it?

It already exists, sort of. I mean the FBI has a file on everyone already and all the disqualifying info is supposed to be correlated. People don't have a card but all the backend info is there. Illinois has all the same, the machinations of the physical FOID cards are just a silly game. It's all tied to state DL/ID cards anyway, it would be trivial and save millions of dollars to do away with the FOID "system". At this point it's all a show to keep up appearances and maintain power by playing games with a physical card. It's like fingerprinting, they make a big stink out of it, but already have facial recognition on everyone already so why bother? Just another game to distract people.

With the change in the law, you don't have to have physical possession of the FOID as long as you have the CCL, so many leave them at home in the safe or whatever. I'd do some more checking, to make absolutely sure that you can't locate it, before you start down the path of replacing it. Someone else may be along with recent experience of what will happen if you report the FOID lost. Out of curiosity how far away is your FOID renewal date? At one time, I think that reporting FOID as lost or stolen got the CCL revoked, and after a couple month wait for the FOID replacement, you could start the couple year appeal process to get the CCL reinstated. Hopefully it's not that bad anymore.

I think you mean Fuhrer... although there is plenty of furor to go around.

Doesn't really matter who his friends were. The only way I know of that he could've carried in IL is if he were former/retired LEO, in which case the Utah permit wouldn't matter. Unless you can cite the IL law that allowed him to carry on a Utah permit, I stand by my previous statement. There is so much folklore and mythology about all things firearms that it's mind boggling. I've met many who believed that out-of-state carry permits allowed them to carry anywhere, just as drivers licenses are recognized everywhere.

My recent renewal took well over 30 days and even went 1 day over the expiration date. Card went active the day after.

ISP being ISP.

Involuntary commitment is a lifetime ban, so if you were NOT involuntarily committed, you will have to do whatever is necessary to get that corrected. Voluntary commitment is a 5 year ban in Illinois. Get far away from the cannabis card ASAP if you have any aspirations of restoring and retaining your firearms rights.

I was about to post this, it was discussed on another forum. It's too bad they couldn't have filed the non-resident carry ban litigation in this judge's district. There's a lot of red meat in the decision for gun rights proponents, but there's a great quote that deserves notice: Overbroad policies ignoring a Constitutional Amendment describes the entirety of Illinois firearms law and regulatory agency attitude.