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With the interest in suppressors these days (outside Illinois that is) they'd be printing money to come out with a modernized version of the P9, with a double stack magazine, modern trigger action and controls, etc.

I was really thinking about a Shield Plus, Smith finally put a reasonable trigger on a handgun for a change. But inability to find any spare magazines has left me waiting... now this comes along to muddy the waters, wish there was more information and an ETA on it.

It'd be easier if people actually knew what to do. Apply for FOID and CCL at the same time, then only one wait, and if she did fingerprints it would likely be faster than just applying for FOID.

How much you wanna bet the judge has at least one of them? Firearm intersectionality

The lefties really can't let that one go, they will never stop trying to relitigate Heller.

Vehicle only has to be locked if it's a prohibited / no-carry zone.

Since you applied separately the applications appear to be handled separately. At one time they wouldn't even start processing the CCL until the FOID was issued, which is why it's always recommended to apply for both simultaneously. Their IT workflow leaves a lot to be desired.

November 8, 2022

Yes, it should be. No, it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be possible for this to happen at all without proper notice and a chance to be heard (preferably both informally and formally) BEFORE it's revoked. AFAIC this should be a critical legislative priority. If we're not going to get rid of the system, the system has to treat people fairly and with due process.

Following the law isn't circumventing the law. Just because someone follows the law to reach an outcome that was unanticipated by the legislature... well, that's the legislatures problem. Getting a CCL allows you to "circumvent" the law banning carry of firearms, doesn't it?

Yes. Sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

Even presuming that's true, which decades of experience indicate it's not, that's not the goal of the political leadership. The goal of the political leadership is to make it as hard as possible for the good guys, while minimally affecting bad guys. Imposing draconian restrictions which do nothing for public safety are a feature, not a bug. Without public safety being endangered, there is no imperative to maintain or increase their power and restrictions. The multiple redundancies and repetitive effort and delay are a feature not a bug.

One small thing that folks can do to support SAF, is they are on the list for charitable contributions with the amazon smile. If you shop amazon anyway, might as well send that little bit to SAF.

It already exists, sort of. I mean the FBI has a file on everyone already and all the disqualifying info is supposed to be correlated. People don't have a card but all the backend info is there. Illinois has all the same, the machinations of the physical FOID cards are just a silly game. It's all tied to state DL/ID cards anyway, it would be trivial and save millions of dollars to do away with the FOID "system". At this point it's all a show to keep up appearances and maintain power by playing games with a physical card. It's like fingerprinting, they make a big stink out of it, but already have facial recognition on everyone already so why bother? Just another game to distract people.

With the change in the law, you don't have to have physical possession of the FOID as long as you have the CCL, so many leave them at home in the safe or whatever. I'd do some more checking, to make absolutely sure that you can't locate it, before you start down the path of replacing it. Someone else may be along with recent experience of what will happen if you report the FOID lost. Out of curiosity how far away is your FOID renewal date? At one time, I think that reporting FOID as lost or stolen got the CCL revoked, and after a couple month wait for the FOID replacement, you could start the couple year appeal process to get the CCL reinstated. Hopefully it's not that bad anymore.