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#181 Quiet Observer

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Posted 31 March 2020 - 02:09 PM

 

Going around Pritzker will extend the stay at home recommendation through April


Doesn’t his “emergency powers” only last 30 days by law? I think he declared that around March 9th-ish. So, how could he do anything past April 9th-ish?

To quote ‘Battlefield Earth’: “...with endless options for renewal”


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There is nothing that says he cannot declare another state of emergency every 30 days until the situation resolves. 

It could be challenged in the courts at any point. 

The governor would have to prove to the court that such declarations are necessary. 

Potentially, the legislature could amend to law to limit his power. 

 

Laws cannot be written to cover every possible situation.  The 30 days was a reasonable guess by the legislature, but they are not fortune tellers.



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Posted 31 March 2020 - 02:30 PM

30 days is plenty of time to go the the legislature. If he can declare the same emergency again then the 30 day provision is meaningless and so is the constitution. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

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Posted 31 March 2020 - 02:48 PM

30 days is plenty of time to go the the legislature. If he can declare the same emergency again then the 30 day provision is meaningless and so is the constitution. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

Exactly, the 30 days isn't how long any emergency is expected to last, its how long its expected to take the legislature to pass a law codifying any necessary emergency measures, or defining more specific powers for the governor to wield during this particular emergency


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Posted 31 March 2020 - 03:23 PM

https://www.southern...ugh-april-30th/

 

Governor JB Pritzker has extended the State at Home order and has closed schools through April 30th as the state tries to flatten the curve on the increase in coronavirus cases.


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Posted 31 March 2020 - 03:29 PM


30 days is plenty of time to go the the legislature. If he can declare the same emergency again then the 30 day provision is meaningless and so is the constitution. Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk


Exactly, the 30 days isn't how long any emergency is expected to last, its how long its expected to take the legislature to pass a law codifying any necessary emergency measures, or defining more specific powers for the governor to wield during this particular emergency


So we can depend on our legislators to look out for us. Not really sure if this should be purple or not.


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Posted 31 March 2020 - 03:59 PM

https://www.southern...ugh-april-30th/
 
Governor JB Pritzker has extended the State at Home order and has closed schools through April 30th as the state tries to flatten the curve on the increase in coronavirus cases.

Then he should immediately be removed from office.

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Posted 31 March 2020 - 04:47 PM

 

https://www.southern...ugh-april-30th/
 
Governor JB Pritzker has extended the State at Home order and has closed schools through April 30th as the state tries to flatten the curve on the increase in coronavirus cases.

Then he should immediately be removed from office.

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Get in touch with a lawyer to file an injunction against the governor's action.  

Contact your state representative and state senator to start impeachment proceedings.  

 

Keep us informed of your progress.



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Posted 02 April 2020 - 11:21 AM

 

https://www.southern...ugh-april-30th/
 
Governor JB Pritzker has extended the State at Home order and has closed schools through April 30th as the state tries to flatten the curve on the increase in coronavirus cases.

Then he should immediately be removed from office.

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Who would do this? The legislature has a super majority made up of his party. 

 

Not arguing with the idea of it, just the workings of it with that in place. 


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Posted 02 April 2020 - 04:06 PM


 

https://www.southern...ugh-april-30th/
 
Governor JB Pritzker has extended the State at Home order and has closed schools through April 30th as the state tries to flatten the curve on the increase in coronavirus cases.

Then he should immediately be removed from office.
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Get in touch with a lawyer to file an injunction against the governor's action.  
Contact your state representative and state senator to start impeachment proceedings.  
 
Keep us informed of your progress.

Already did, why haven't you?

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Posted 02 April 2020 - 04:07 PM


 

https://www.southern...ugh-april-30th/
 
Governor JB Pritzker has extended the State at Home order and has closed schools through April 30th as the state tries to flatten the curve on the increase in coronavirus cases.

Then he should immediately be removed from office.
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Who would do this? The legislature has a super majority made up of his party. 
 
Not arguing with the idea of it, just the workings of it with that in place. 

That creates a political problem. All good citizens will simply ignore the illegal blather.

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Posted 02 April 2020 - 04:38 PM

 

 

https://www.southern...ugh-april-30th/
 
Governor JB Pritzker has extended the State at Home order and has closed schools through April 30th as the state tries to flatten the curve on the increase in coronavirus cases.

Then he should immediately be removed from office.
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Get in touch with a lawyer to file an injunction against the governor's action.  
Contact your state representative and state senator to start impeachment proceedings.  
 
Keep us informed of your progress.

Already did, why haven't you?

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I believe that the governor has the authority for the action. I could be wrong. 

That is why I suggested that you contact a lawyer and your state rep and senator.

 

Let us know  what the three said and in what jurisdiction the injunction was petitioned. 

So far, I have not heard any news reports about it.


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Posted 06 April 2020 - 04:41 AM

I want to know why i am expected to do what everyone else is doing and comply with the stay home order. Like gun rights,, I have the right to do what i want and no governor has the right to interfere in ANYONE'S RIGHTS FOR NOTHING MORE THAN A HEALTH ISSUE. Who does this idiot pritzer think he is? He has no right to interfere in people's rights especially about health.

 

if i do not care about being healthy for no one at all, that is my right, and the governor has no right to interfere in my instant gratification at all and the need for instant pleasure and he has  NO RIGHT TO FORCE ME TO DO ANYTHING FOR MYSELF LIKE TAKE CARE OF MY HEALTH AND PROVIDE FOR MYSELF.  i was shot as a cop and it was a career ending injury and i am expected to continue working at the new career as an arson investigator for this state and fat idiot governor instead of the state paying me disability money, but an injured military veteran gets everything free, like they deserve it, when cops deserve everything.

 

like my right to have any firearms i want, i have the right to go out and do what i want and no governor has the right to stop me.



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Posted 06 April 2020 - 05:05 AM

We all make choices - the choice to follow gun laws, for example, in order to maintain our freedom and for many, the choice to limit contact with others as a way to mitigate the spread of disease.

 

If you choose to ignore laws there can be consequences that you will be intimately aware of.  If you choose unlimited contact with others, there can be consequences you may or not be aware of, some having far reaching, negative effects on others beside yourself.

 

But these things are your choice.

 

Choose wisely.



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Posted 06 April 2020 - 08:11 AM

seeing as how 90% of cases of covid 19 in people with chronic lung issues typically resolve completely with no further lung damage, cases like asthma and respiratory allergies are what i am talking about, and i have minor asthma and severe allergies, im not just allergic to the tree pollen, i am allergic to the entire tree for example, and out of the 10% that dont recover completely from it 7% end up being considered disabled, meaning 25 to 30% of lung function lost and they will get free money, being a gambler.... it is pretty good odds i will survive if i caught it and may be better off because i would get free money. my boyfriend is trying to get me to stay home and actually do the job i was hired for, but ultimately who would i be successful at the job for, no one?



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Posted 06 April 2020 - 08:29 AM

You'll remember that this topic is related to firearm and ammo dealers being exempt from closures of "non-essential" businesses.

 

We've discussed this, you and I, in the not too distant past.  Choose wisely.



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Posted 06 April 2020 - 04:03 PM

and it seems like everyone here thinks i should have to comply with the emergency mandates over ALL OF OUR RIGHTS INCLUDING GUN RIGHTS the same as everyone else which is not correct.



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Posted 06 April 2020 - 04:20 PM

“We cannot let this, we’ve never allowed any crisis from the Civil War straight through to the pandemic of 17, all the way around, 16, we have never, never let our democracy sakes second fiddle, way they, we can both have a democracy and … correct the public health.”
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Posted 06 April 2020 - 04:39 PM

and it seems like everyone here thinks i should have to comply with the emergency mandates over ALL OF OUR RIGHTS INCLUDING GUN RIGHTS the same as everyone else which is not correct.

 

Yes.

 

This will all pass one day.

What will you complain about then?


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Posted 06 April 2020 - 05:01 PM

and it seems like everyone here thinks i should have to comply with the emergency mandates over ALL OF OUR RIGHTS INCLUDING GUN RIGHTS the same as everyone else which is not correct.

 
Yes.
 
This will all pass one day.
What will you complain about then?

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Don't ask that
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Posted 06 April 2020 - 06:30 PM

"One, we have to uh, depend on what the president's going to do right now. And first of all, he has to, uh, tell uh, uh—wait til the case is before anything happens. Look the whole idea is he's got to get in place things that were shortages of."

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Posted 06 April 2020 - 08:54 PM

“We cannot let this, we’ve never allowed any crisis from the Civil War straight through to the pandemic of 17, all the way around, 16, we have never, never let our democracy sakes second fiddle, way they, we can both have a democracy and … correct the public health.”
-Joe Biden

 

 

"One, we have to uh, depend on what the president's going to do right now. And first of all, he has to, uh, tell uh, uh—wait til the case is before anything happens. Look the whole idea is he's got to get in place things that were shortages of."

-Joe Biden

Those sound very "But resist we much, and we will much, about... that... be ... committed...."

 

Can I get an amen?!


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