ITguy1686 Posted January 27, 2021 at 08:25 PM Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 08:25 PM I didn't want to hijack the other thread but if this one needs merged I understand. My employer is a retail establishment (gas station/convenience store). They made the decision to ban concealed carry and start putting up the signs. Part of me wants to post the corporate number and request calls to complain about this policy. I am also curious to see how many people actually just go ahead and call and say they lost a customer due to this. What are everyone's thought and what would you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigcelia Posted January 27, 2021 at 08:29 PM Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 08:29 PM You mean post the number here or on the door? Some things you have to just roll with the punches. This sounds like one of those things. Being a private employer, they do have the right to post it even if we are against that policy. We as consumers also have the right to complain about it to the business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted January 27, 2021 at 08:39 PM Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 08:39 PM I would not post a sign that specifically addresses complaining about CC. As Craigcelia said, that could get you in trouble with corporate. You could post a sign with the corporate customer service number. You could just label it "Customer Service" or "How are we doing? Let us know?" Those who have a problem with banning CC will get the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITguy1686 Posted January 27, 2021 at 08:42 PM Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 08:42 PM I was referring to posting the number on here. I'm just going to avoid that for now. Based on our location and how no other gas stations are doing this, I'm going to speculate that there will be alot of push back from our customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted January 27, 2021 at 09:08 PM Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 09:08 PM Was the decision made by corporate and going to all locations or the local owner/management? I spoke to a local place once where a local manager had posted it. The guy I spoke with did something or spoke with someone and it was gone next time I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITguy1686 Posted January 27, 2021 at 09:14 PM Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 09:14 PM I am in the corporate office and the decision was made at the corporate level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawman Posted January 27, 2021 at 10:05 PM Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 10:05 PM About five years ago a local fast food franchise was posted. I emailed the corporate office, told them i would no longer be patronizing the place or any other franchise if the sign remained up,and about a week later it was down. Making it known that there will be a loss of business and a brush taken to the whole corporation at the hands of one franchisee does work. If this decision was made at the corporate level, then complaints to corporate will get noticed, Whether or not they reverse their decision remains to be seen, but complaints have to stand a chance of reversal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted January 27, 2021 at 10:06 PM Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 10:06 PM So youre in the Corp offices? Are they posted?And the business you work for is gas/convenience?And did they make this a Corp wide decision?Do the site managers have a say?Or is this about the gas place you stop at in particular? And if YOU are at Corp you may want to be very careful about stepping on the companies toes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted January 27, 2021 at 10:14 PM Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 10:14 PM If/when your biz gets posted Just add it here..http://www.rightapp.net/input/DisplayIllinois.php..and the the public do its thing... Alot of businesses have taken down the signs when they were told that folks would take their $$$'s elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITguy1686 Posted January 27, 2021 at 10:24 PM Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 10:24 PM So youre in the Corp offices? Are they posted? I am sure the corp office will be posted.And the business you work for is gas/convenience? Yes.And did they make this a Corp wide decision? YesDo the site managers have a say? NoOr is this about the gas place you stop at in particular? And if YOU are at Corp you may want to be very careful about stepping on the companies toes! This is the company I work for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITguy1686 Posted January 27, 2021 at 10:26 PM Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 10:26 PM If/when your biz gets posted Just add it here..http://www.rightapp.net/input/DisplayIllinois.php..and the the public do its thing... Alot of businesses have taken down the signs when they were told that folks would take their $$$'s elsewhere.It will likely take a couple weeks for the stores to get the signs posted but once they do I will add it to the list. I'm certain calls will be made before I do that. My concern is our competition is not posting their stores so we are just asking for lost business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted January 27, 2021 at 11:04 PM Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 11:04 PM Dont know if still available but there were business cards you could get here and leave with the establishments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quackersmacker Posted January 27, 2021 at 11:34 PM Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 11:34 PM I'm guessing, but not suggesting, that the vast majority of customers (even carrying ones) will just ignore it. It would be interesting to know the stats on something like this,but obviously that data is impossible to collect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted January 27, 2021 at 11:35 PM Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 11:35 PM Gas station by me put up signs I told the guy working there that they lost a customer gave him a card like above sing was down by the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagSlap Posted January 27, 2021 at 11:56 PM Share Posted January 27, 2021 at 11:56 PM I'm guessing, but not suggesting, that the vast majority of customers (even carrying ones) will just ignore it. It would be interesting to know the stats on something like this,but obviously that data is impossible to collect. Thats certainly a possibility... But not impossible to begin to figure out...Lets start a pollWho regularly carries in GFZ's?Who are you.. where and when do you carry in GFZ's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euler Posted January 28, 2021 at 12:45 AM Share Posted January 28, 2021 at 12:45 AM If this is a national chain, then carrying in a GFZ in many states isn't even a misdemeanor, unless it's a federal building or a school. Illinois (along with those few others) is special that way. ... But not impossible to begin to figure out... Lets start a poll Who regularly carries in GFZ's? Who are you.. where and when do you carry in GFZ's? Should we post our full name and address, along with a video of us displaying a firearm while walking past a sign? Otherwise, why believe us just because we say it? Should we keep score? 1 point for a McDonald's or BW3. 5 points for an elementary school. 10 points for a post office. 50 points for a nuclear facility. The winner gets a free dinner of apple sauce and pureed chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted January 28, 2021 at 01:16 AM Share Posted January 28, 2021 at 01:16 AM So youre in the Corp offices? Are they posted? I am sure the corp office will be posted.And the business you work for is gas/convenience? Yes.And did they make this a Corp wide decision? YesDo the site managers have a say? NoOr is this about the gas place you stop at in particular? And if YOU are at Corp you may want to be very careful about stepping on the companies toes! This is the company I work for. I think I got this right. You work in the corporate office of XYZ Corporation. They are planning to have all their retail outlets posted. You want to know if it would be beneficial for you to post the corporate phone number here to have us call and complain. What little response that you might get here will have no effect on the company's decision. It does not matter what products they sell.It would take lots and lots of calls and letters from actual customers, once the signs go up, to have any effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted January 28, 2021 at 01:54 AM Share Posted January 28, 2021 at 01:54 AM So just throwing this out there.Would the signs be posted on the doors of said gas stations?Would not the entrances of the pumps need to be posted ala Oak Brook Center/Mall?Drive up, get gas, pay at pump, drive off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet Observer Posted January 28, 2021 at 04:50 AM Share Posted January 28, 2021 at 04:50 AM Bubbacs, I think that you are going beyond the scope of the OP, should he post the company phone number here. The decisions about postings and locations would be made by corporate with the advice of its lawyers. I think your questions here are inviting another endless debate about posting with "concealed means concealed", the definition of "knowingly", owner vs. renter of site, etc. The company may have stations outside of Illinois, also. I am not discounting the validity of some of the arguments that I listed, and some I did not. I just think they have already been discussed ad nauseum on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybermgk Posted January 28, 2021 at 07:54 PM Share Posted January 28, 2021 at 07:54 PM Well that is one good thing from this COVID madness. Where I work, moved those of us that could, to be 100% remote. So now, I get to carry 100% of the time while at work, which is in a home office now, where I couldn't when I went in to the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITguy1686 Posted January 28, 2021 at 08:14 PM Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 at 08:14 PM Where it stands: Going to wait for the signs to be up at all locations. Then it will be time to start spreading the word about the new anti-gun locations. What may surprise you is that the majority of our locations are in places that have declared themselves sanctuaries for gun rights so I know this will not sit well with many members of the community to have a business posted. What you may be thinking is why would I as an employee of this company want to lose customers by spreading the word? Well folks, like many of you I am tired of sitting on the sidelines and watching sh*t like this happen. Now it is hitting close to home for me. As an employee I will abide by company policy. As a customer, I will take my business elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted January 28, 2021 at 08:47 PM Share Posted January 28, 2021 at 08:47 PM Have you submitted the location to the POSTED app? Some of us still find it useful to know before you go someplace if it is posted and if there are friendly alternatives. It app is about the cost of one decent 9mm round and well worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITguy1686 Posted January 28, 2021 at 08:57 PM Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 at 08:57 PM I can't submit it yet because it is not officially posted yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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