24 replies to this topic

[steveTA84]

Follow the money.....
https://www.mom-at-a...who-s-behind-it

[WitchDoctor]

Figures...

[Molly B.]

Who would have guessed??  I'll go look for my shocked face.  Good work, Steve.

[steveTA84]

Who would have guessed??  I'll go look for my shocked face.  Good work, Steve.

Im just as shocked as you are. Im even more shocked that Bloombergs The Trace featured an article about SB1966 and had Jones in it.

https://www.thetrace...int-gun-buyers/

Under federal law, though, only buyers of particularly destructive weapons such as machine guns must undergo fingerprinting. At least six states have extended this to also include purchases of handguns. But in Illinois, as in most of the country, handgun buyers are checked just through basic biographical and descriptive information.

Its a massive hole, said Mark Jones, a former agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives who is senior policy director for the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence in Chicago. The question is: How many guns slip through it? Theres so much opacity its difficult to understand the scale.

Point is that its big $$$ trying to push their way on us all.

Edited by steveTA84, 13 November 2019 - 11:56 AM.

[AlphaKoncepts aka CGS]

Deleted. Never mind I was wrong.

Edited by AlphaKoncepts aka CGS, 13 November 2019 - 12:26 PM.

[Colt guy]

Money talks in Illinois

[357]

Who would have guessed??  I'll go look for my shocked face.  Good work, Steve.

Im just as shocked as you are. Im even more shocked that Bloombergs The Trace featured an article about SB1966 and had Jones in it. https://www.thetrace...int-gun-buyers/

Under federal law, though, only buyers of particularly destructive weapons such as machine guns must undergo fingerprinting. At least six states have extended this to also include purchases of handguns. But in Illinois, as in most of the country, handgun buyers are checked just through basic biographical and descriptive information.
Its a massive hole, said Mark Jones, a former agent with the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives who is senior policy director for the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence in Chicago. The question is: How many guns slip through it? Theres so much opacity its difficult to understand the scale.

Point is that its big $$$ trying to push their way on us all.

Isn't that corruption and quid pro quo and conspiracy to take away people's Constitutional rights, where are the feds and Trump's justice department?

[JDW]

Good work, Steve.

[ScopeEye]

Money talks in Illinois

Yep... 

Bribes

& 

False promises 

[speedbump]

Connect the dots, backtrack to the source.

Kudos.

[cybermgk]

K, can't get to Steve's linked site at work.  Can someone give a 50cent overview?

[steveTA84]

K, can't get to Steve's linked site at work.  Can someone give a 50cent overview?

Basically, John Podestas Center For American Progress (a D.C. based group rolling in the $$$ to push and advocate for progressive change) is involved in pushing SB1966 and theyre funded by George Soros OSF. Mark D. Jones, whos with ICHV (and his partner/girlfriend/wife is the president of States United, which is the National hub of state chapters of Ceasefire, which ICHV is ours) is also with CAP.

Edited by steveTA84, 14 November 2019 - 08:00 AM.

[mrmagloo]

So Bloomberg is totally clean?  LOL.    

[steveTA84]

So Bloomberg is totally clean?  LOL.

Ha!!! No lol

[cybermgk]

 

K, can't get to Steve's linked site at work.  Can someone give a 50cent overview?

Basically, John Podestas Center For American Progress (a D.C. based group rolling in the $$$ to push and advocate for progressive change) is involved in pushing SB1966 and theyre funded by George Soros OSF. Mark D. Jones, whos with ICHV (and his partner/girlfriend/wife is the president of States United, which is the National hub of state chapters of Ceasefire, which ICHV is ours) is also with CAP.

 

TY

 

Not surprised AT all.  Likely part of the attack on the legacy of gun ownership.  Make it expensive, and who will be willing to pay for a child to have a FOID?

Edited by cybermgk, 14 November 2019 - 09:19 AM.

[steveTA84]

K, can't get to Steve's linked site at work.  Can someone give a 50cent overview?

Basically, John Podestas Center For American Progress (a D.C. based group rolling in the $$$ to push and advocate for progressive change) is involved in pushing SB1966 and theyre funded by George Soros OSF. Mark D. Jones, whos with ICHV (and his partner/girlfriend/wife is the president of States United, which is the National hub of state chapters of Ceasefire, which ICHV is ours) is also with CAP.

TY
 
Not surprised AT all.  Likely part of the attack on the legacy of gun ownership.  Make it expensive, and who will be willing to pay for a child to have a FOID?

Well, when you have foreign interests/money involved.....



Gotta pull their assets and see how much is invested in foreign countries

Edited by steveTA84, 14 November 2019 - 09:54 AM.

[steveTA84]

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K, can't get to Steve's linked site at work.  Can someone give a 50cent overview?[/quote]
Basically, John Podestas Center For American Progress (a D.C. based group rolling in the $$$ to push and advocate for progressive change) is involved in pushing SB1966 and theyre funded by George Soros OSF. Mark D. Jones, whos with ICHV (and his partner/girlfriend/wife is the president of States United, which is the National hub of state chapters of Ceasefire, which ICHV is ours) is also with CAP.[/quote]TY
 
Not surprised AT all.  Likely part of the attack on the legacy of gun ownership.  Make it expensive, and who will be willing to pay for a child to have a FOID?[/quote]
Well, when you have foreign interests/money involved.....
Gotta pull their assets and see how much is invested in foreign countries[/quote]

Without even digging too hard (per their tax forms, they transfer funds from the main org to the action fund, which is backing SB1966)

https://www.american...upporters-2016/

Edited by steveTA84, 14 November 2019 - 10:21 AM.

[Colt guy]

Amazing how much money is tossed around this government to create and control agendas. 

[steveTA84]

Amazing how much money is tossed around this government to create and control agendas.

No kidding. Further research also finds that Heather Podestas (Tony Podestas (Johns Brother) Ex-wife and lawyer in DC) law firm lobbies for a not-for-profit in Springfield (GEOTHERMAL HEAT PUMP CONSORTIUM INC). Their mission: TO ADVANCE THE GEOTHERMAL HEAT PUMP INDUSTRY THROUGH PUBLIC POLICY ADVOCACY, PUBLIC RELATIONS, COMMUNICATIONS, BRANDING, CONSUMER ACCEPTANCE AND COORDINATION WITH UTILITIES AND RENEWABLE ENERGY ADVOCATES.





Tony actually shut down his firm in 2017 after the Mueller investigation found that his group represented not for profits in the Ukraine that were involved in the Russia mess

https://www.vox.com/...r-investigation

A report from CNN earlier this year described how the Podesta Group repeatedly contacted the State Department about Ukraines 2012 election, attempting to put a positive spin on the regimes handling of the elections. However, and crucially, they didnt disclose the full extent of their work in federal lobbying filings until earlier this year and per NBC, that failure to disclose has caught Muellers attention. (A Podesta group spokesperson emailed me last week to insist that all appropriate legal disclosures were made.)

Point: its all a web and powerful D.C. lobbyists/groups are screwing with our rights and laws here in IL, and we are the ones that lose

Edited by steveTA84, 14 November 2019 - 12:38 PM.

[steveTA84]

Also, check this out. Per here (also a linked in OP article), concentrate on Accurate Biometrics’ lobbyist Paula Riggins

https://ilwd4cr.home...ey-for-cronies/



Guess what? She’s ALSO a director with the ICHV!

https://pdf.guidesta...-100d507b-9.pdf

[steveTA84]

Article in OP has been scrubbed!!!! No one touched it on our end!!!!!

[WitchDoctor]

Article in OP has been scrubbed!!!! No one touched it on our end!!!!!

Bizarre, but not surprising. I will run some Kali Linux on that particular web server to see what we can see.

[steveTA84]

Article in OP has been scrubbed!!!! No one touched it on our end!!!!!

Bizarre, but not surprising. I will run some Kali Linux on that particular web server to see what we can see.

Every outside link is dead for every article regardless of author. Can only access directly from the site. Admin is looking into it but if you can find anything it would be helpful

Edited by steveTA84, 14 November 2019 - 02:33 PM.

[steveTA84]

Links working again. Very weird

[steveTA84]

Jones!!!!!!!! Jones is their (CAP) guy!!!! SB1966 slips (proponents for one of the amendments)

http://www.ilga.gov/...A=101&SpecSess=