mauserme Posted October 18, 2017 at 02:21 AM Author Share Posted October 18, 2017 at 02:21 AM There are only 54 people in opposition to this bill under record of appearance in the Rules Committee Hearing. Where is everyone else? No emails have gone out yet, just an informal post in today's update topic. Give it another couple days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blck10th Posted October 18, 2017 at 09:50 PM Share Posted October 18, 2017 at 09:50 PM I saw the link on Facebook and shared it. That was a pretty good link someone put up from IL gun owners rights. Maybe they copied it I don’t know. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted October 18, 2017 at 10:52 PM Share Posted October 18, 2017 at 10:52 PM Two bulls are standing at the top of a hill overlooking a pasture filled with cows, one was a young bull and the other was an old bull. The young bull excitedly says to the old bull - "Let's run down there and boink one of them cows!" The old bull says "No junior, lets walk down there and boink them all." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted October 19, 2017 at 11:23 AM Share Posted October 19, 2017 at 11:23 AM New dog I got came from a balcksmith. Soon as I got him home he made a bolt for the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0untZer0 Posted October 19, 2017 at 08:52 PM Share Posted October 19, 2017 at 08:52 PM I’m just saying, we have time to file witness slips. When mauserme posts the links then I’ll file slips. No need to get all excited right this moment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted October 19, 2017 at 09:02 PM Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 at 09:02 PM I’m just saying, we have time to file witness slips. When mauserme posts the links then I’ll file slips. No need to get all excited right this moment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk There's a balancing act with this. We try to accommodate our forum members' enthusiasm but not overdo the emails for people that want a little less. Discussing things here while waiting to send a comprehensive, single email seems to work pretty well except in emergency situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted October 19, 2017 at 10:23 PM Share Posted October 19, 2017 at 10:23 PM Once the moms, giffords, hcav, etc send out their own alerts, Id rather we be ahead crushing their numbers instead of catching up... Pros got out to a head start on the AWB but the antis added 500 or so in the last day...so theres still a difference around 300, for the good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayEm Posted October 19, 2017 at 10:44 PM Share Posted October 19, 2017 at 10:44 PM Witness slip filled out. Told my gun buddies about it and they'll be filling out slips too. These bans are just ridiculous, i'm not sure what IL politicians do besides take things away from their people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTHunter Posted October 20, 2017 at 02:22 AM Share Posted October 20, 2017 at 02:22 AM Rauner signing HB40 did upset a BUNCH of people. Assuming that he is in office if these bills pass (especially 4107) they will just keep pushing bills like 4107 if he does veto it? As much as I hate to write it, I think Pritzger is Illinois next governor which means it's time to move to a different State. Considering Pritzger's physique . . .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarineVet Posted October 20, 2017 at 02:35 PM Share Posted October 20, 2017 at 02:35 PM I agree with the NRA. NO new legislation. Just review of BATF regulations for bump stocks. But I will follow mauserme's lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted October 21, 2017 at 06:53 PM Share Posted October 21, 2017 at 06:53 PM Rauner signing HB40 did upset a BUNCH of people. Assuming that he is in office if these bills pass (especially 4107) they will just keep pushing bills like 4107 if he does veto it? As much as I hate to write it, I think Pritzger is Illinois next governor which means it's time to move to a different State. Considering Pritzger's physique . . . .. You would think so but with the Pritzger money I'm sure he has the best doctors. Elections for important positions all come down to one thing, money. The POTUS and the governor of a large State all require money. You have Rauner and Pritzger who are already campaigning and they are both billionaires. Chris Kennedy has some money but will be trounced by the sheer amount of money he is going up against. As much as I hope that Pritzger fails, Rauner is not exactly a popular governor. Signing HB40 did not help his cause and what it comes down to is the lowest common denominator, Cook County and Chicago in particular. There are 12.8 million people in Illinois of which 2.7 million are in Chicago. Cook has 5.2 million and believe me everybody who wants a hand out will vote. Rauner would need a outstanding turnout downstate to offset Cook and possibly Dupage counties. A turnout that he alienated with signing HB40. My opinion is that we are in serious trouble. Illinois will be no better off BUT gun rights will take a big hit. It's time to move before it hits the fan. In two years we make California look like they have loose gun laws. Illinois and everything that has been worked for will be lost. HB4107 looks bad now, wait until Pritzger gets in office and just signs every anti bill that crosses his desk. Maybe he has a massive coronary in office but he wont until he actually is office. By the time that happens we will be screwed. Remember Quinn lost 99 of the 102 counties in Illinois and still won the Governership. Want to break the Dem stranglehold - change the program - 1 Senator from EACH county and 3 at large, total = 105. And 1-2 Reps (based upon population - 51 counties get 2, 51 get 1 = total 153) from EACH County. No more gerrymandered maps and screwy districts. Total representation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted October 23, 2017 at 01:08 PM Share Posted October 23, 2017 at 01:08 PM Want to break the Dem stranglehold - change the program - 1 Senator from EACH county and 3 at large, total = 105. And 1-2 Reps (based upon population - 51 counties get 2, 51 get 1 = total 153) from EACH County. No more gerrymandered maps and screwy districts. Total representation. It would be nice, but it will never happen. And interestingly enough, it would require a change to the US Constitution in order to be legal. Something that might happen is a reduction in the gerrymandered districts, depending on how SCOTUS rules on Gill v. Whitford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikew Posted October 23, 2017 at 02:01 PM Share Posted October 23, 2017 at 02:01 PM And interestingly enough, it would require a change to the US Constitution in order to be legal. Changes in state government need an amendment to the US Constitution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmcss Posted October 23, 2017 at 04:12 PM Share Posted October 23, 2017 at 04:12 PM Received this in the mail from the NRA: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarineVet Posted October 23, 2017 at 06:40 PM Share Posted October 23, 2017 at 06:40 PM Me and my family also. Probably every NRA member in Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted October 23, 2017 at 07:26 PM Share Posted October 23, 2017 at 07:26 PM Me and my family also. Probably every NRA member in Illinois.Yep, got that too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock23 Posted October 23, 2017 at 07:28 PM Share Posted October 23, 2017 at 07:28 PM Me and my family also. Probably every NRA member in Illinois. Yep, got that tooYep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted October 23, 2017 at 07:29 PM Share Posted October 23, 2017 at 07:29 PM Me also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowhouse5 Posted October 23, 2017 at 08:03 PM Share Posted October 23, 2017 at 08:03 PM Is it better to contact a Representative's district office or their Springfield office?Or does it even matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted October 23, 2017 at 08:39 PM Share Posted October 23, 2017 at 08:39 PM Signed witness slips for myself and HH6. In favor: 803Opposed: 3868 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted October 23, 2017 at 08:41 PM Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 at 08:41 PM Is it better to contact a Representative's district office or their Springfield office?Or does it even matter? District today, 10/23Springfield tomorrow, 10/24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilrider78 Posted October 23, 2017 at 09:34 PM Share Posted October 23, 2017 at 09:34 PM Signed witness slips for myself and HH6. In favor: 803Opposed: 3868 8094055 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwing Posted October 25, 2017 at 04:02 PM Share Posted October 25, 2017 at 04:02 PM And interestingly enough, it would require a change to the US Constitution in order to be legal. Changes in state government need an amendment to the US Constitution? Actually yes: 14th Amendment:All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws How it's been interpreted.https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/one-person_one-vote_rule So to change to "one state senator for one county", it would require an amendment to change this section in the 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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