foxriver6 Posted August 11, 2014 at 05:52 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 05:52 PM (edited) Friend and fellow instructor called to ask if I knew my instructor creds had been revoked? Did not know that! Called ISP and it was because the NRA credentials I sent them with application have an expiration date and I renewed before they expired but did not up date with ISP. Never occurred to me that they would just revoke without checking. My bad! Edited to add: To update your instructor credentials with the ISP, email a scan of your new credentials to: ISP.Instructor.Docs@illinois.gov.Be sure to ask for verification of receipt.Molly B. Edited July 22, 2019 at 08:24 PM by Molly B. Updated email address
sirflyguy Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:23 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:23 PM Good to know. Thanks for the warning.
foxriver6 Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:26 PM Author Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:26 PM Anyone recall seeing this requirement. If I missed it...then my bad! However I never recall seeing anything tell me that I had to update ISP when I renewed my NRA credentials!
wtr100 Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:26 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:26 PM how did you update your creds?
foxriver6 Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:31 PM Author Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:31 PM With ISP? Just faxed them a copy! Hopefully they fix it quickly, because I have a class on Sunday. If there is no know mechanism in place for updating them then that tells me they didn't let anyone know they had to do this!!!
pdpsc Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:35 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:35 PM ISP = Ignorant State Police Revoking instructors over a made up "issue" that could have been resolved with a telephone call or email. Anyone else still believe the ISP is your friend?
Onytay Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:59 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:59 PM Looks like they got my training partner as well. I'm not on the list but I'm sure to follow as we took Instructor training at the same time. What a crock.
Packy Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:59 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 06:59 PM Thank you for the heads up. I just called and was told their copy showed me expired and that I would be revoked. I was given an email address and emailed a copy of new credentials. Hope they don't screw it up!
bobapunk Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:01 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:01 PM I just renewed my NRA Creds in June... On hold with ISP right now to get this resolved before it becomes an issue.I am not currently revoked.
wtr100 Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:02 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:02 PM Might shoot a note to my state Rep I'm ok but he gets a kick out of rattling the ISP cage once in a while
foxriver6 Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:04 PM Author Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:04 PM WTR that's a good idea! have already made Todd aware!
foxriver6 Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:07 PM Author Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:07 PM bobapunk, hope you get it straightened out. Only consolation is it appears instructors I respect did not know about this either! Just don't get why they want to screw with the "good guys", seams they should be busy enough with real problems!
NRApistol Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:14 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:14 PM (edited) Email question to ISP:"I recently renewed my NRA instructor certifications. Do I need to sendyou a copy" Answer:"Yes we will need a copy of that. You can scan and submit or fax to"217-782-9139.Respectfully,Illinois State PoliceFirearms Services BureauConcealed Carry Unit Edited August 11, 2014 at 07:18 PM by NRApistol
foxriver6 Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:18 PM Author Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:18 PM Any one answer my question as to whether they were aware of this requirement prior to today?
Onytay Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:29 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:29 PM Any one answer my question as to whether they were aware of this requirement prior to today?I was not.
wtr100 Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:32 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:32 PM Any one answer my question as to whether they were aware of this requirement prior to today? nope
Indigo Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:42 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:42 PM You should have known - we're all on double secret probation!
Elmer Fudd Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:47 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:47 PM You should have known - we're all on double secret probation!What do you mean....ISP is always fair, timely and completely reasonable in everything they do...
wtr100 Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:48 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 07:48 PM You should have known - we're all on double secret probation!What do you mean....ISP is always fair, timely and completely reasonable in everything they do... pssst buddy - I got this bridge ...
Elmer Fudd Posted August 11, 2014 at 08:09 PM Posted August 11, 2014 at 08:09 PM wtr....I couldn't resist the proper reply to that... http://i1348.photobucket.com/albums/p725/Beecher_Tool/ScreenShot2014-08-11at30613PM_zps3b2ad514.png
foxriver6 Posted August 12, 2014 at 01:17 AM Author Posted August 12, 2014 at 01:17 AM UN-revoked! Instructors take note, keep ISP informed of NRA Credential renewals! Also, if you have friends that are instructors and don't check out IL Carry, call them and let them know whats going on! Thats how I found out, friend let me know! Talked to Molly B and Todd V and they are on it!
3ddiver Posted August 12, 2014 at 01:44 AM Posted August 12, 2014 at 01:44 AM Thank you for this thread. My wifes credentials were renewed earlier this month and I never even thought to update with ISP
milq Posted August 12, 2014 at 01:49 AM Posted August 12, 2014 at 01:49 AM Which email address can you scan and email them to?
foxriver6 Posted August 12, 2014 at 01:53 AM Author Posted August 12, 2014 at 01:53 AM Not sure there is an email, I faxed it!
sirflyguy Posted August 12, 2014 at 02:08 AM Posted August 12, 2014 at 02:08 AM (edited) Mine were good through Dec. 31, 2014, but I have already renewed so I may as well fax them the new creds. Edited August 12, 2014 at 02:10 AM by sirflyguy
chevsuz12 Posted August 12, 2014 at 03:16 AM Posted August 12, 2014 at 03:16 AM Thanks for this info! Fax sent.
Tango7 Posted August 12, 2014 at 03:58 AM Posted August 12, 2014 at 03:58 AM ISP = Ignorant State Police Revoking instructors over a made up "issue" that could have been resolved with a telephone call or email. Anyone else still believe the ISP is your friend?bobapunk, hope you get it straightened out. Only consolation is it appears instructors I respect did not know about this either! Just don't get why they want to screw with the "good guys", seams they should be busy enough with real problems!Simple answer, be it State or local Code compliance types. Us law abiding types are easy to find and easy to threaten encourage compliance with. Finding the real criminals breaking the law (as opposed to an arcane Administrative Code) and hurting people (not just the feelings of some {D}imwits who hate guns) is harder.
AJR Posted August 12, 2014 at 04:37 AM Posted August 12, 2014 at 04:37 AM (edited) Email question to ISP:"I recently renewed my NRA instructor certifications. Do I need to sendyou a copy" Answer:"Yes we will need a copy of that. You can scan and submit or fax to"217-782-9139.Respectfully,Illinois State PoliceFirearms Services BureauConcealed Carry Unit What email address did you use for your inquiry? It seems there response was you can scan and submit, so I would think you can use the same email address.Was it the one they use to communicate with us? The CCW_Illinois@isp.state.il.us email address? Edited August 12, 2014 at 04:38 AM by AJR
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