InterestedBystander Posted April 4, 2018 at 10:40 PM Posted April 4, 2018 at 10:40 PM 3/22/19 update Deerfield loses. One more count to be heard 5/3/19. Discussion begins here http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=68553&page=5&do=findComment&comment=1203837 =========== EDIT GSL / NRA https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180404/nra-to-support-guns-save-life-in-illinois-lawsuit http://www.gunssavelife.com/guns-save-life-files-suit-deerfields-gun-confiscation-ordinance-nras-support/ ISRA / SAF http://www.isra.org/News/TabId/1068/ArtMID/4612/ArticleID/28707/ISRA-ALERT-April-5-2018.aspx Court date July 5, 2018 Case 18CH00000427 ============ https://capitolfax.com/wp-mobile.php?p=37336&more=1 So far I have only been able to find this reported at Capitol Fax and not at NRA-ILA or GSL NRA The National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA) today announced support for a lawsuit brought by Guns Save Life challenging the Village of Deerfield, Illinois gun confiscation ordinance. The lawsuit challenges Deerfields recent attempt to criminalize so-called assault weapons and high capacity magazines within village limits. Every law-abiding villager of Deerfield has the right to protect themselves, their homes, and their loved ones with the firearm that best suits their needs, said Chris W. Cox, executive director of NRA-ILA. The National Rifle Association is pleased to assist Guns Save Life in defense of this freedom. By amending an existing 2013 ordinance, the Village Board of Trustees has now empowered local authorities to confiscate and destroy all so-called assault weapons and high capacity magazines possessed within village limits. The amendment also imposes a daily fine ranging between $250 and $1,000. We are going to fight this ordinance, which clearly violates our members constitutional rights, and with the help of the NRA I believe we can secure a victory for law-abiding gun owners in and around Deerfield, said John Boch, president of Guns Save Life.
Woodrift Posted April 4, 2018 at 10:43 PM Posted April 4, 2018 at 10:43 PM Hopefully we win this one. Gun owners beat California after they tried to ban magazines over 10 rounds but offered no compensation.
deerhuntre Posted April 5, 2018 at 12:01 AM Posted April 5, 2018 at 12:01 AM Wonderful news, Mortimer!!!!
blck10th Posted April 5, 2018 at 12:15 AM Posted April 5, 2018 at 12:15 AM Was listening to joe Walsh on AM560 earlier. He was all over this topic Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Scipio24 Posted April 5, 2018 at 12:22 AM Posted April 5, 2018 at 12:22 AM Release the hounds Well said lol
InterestedBystander Posted April 5, 2018 at 12:33 AM Author Posted April 5, 2018 at 12:33 AM Updated URLs https://www.nraila.org/articles/20180404/nra-to-support-guns-save-life-in-illinois-lawsuit-1 http://www.gunssavelife.com/guns-save-life-files-suit-deerfields-gun-confiscation-ordinance-nras-support/ LawsuitWEDNESDAY, APRIL 4, 2018SUPPORT NRA-ILAFairfax, Va. The National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action (NRA-ILA) today announced support for a lawsuit brought by Guns Save Life challenging the Village of Deerfield, Illinois gun confiscation ordinance. The lawsuit challenges Deerfields recent attempt to criminalize so-called assault weapons and high capacity magazines within village limits. View Related ArticlesEvery law-abiding villager of Deerfield has the right to protect themselves, their homes, and their loved ones with the firearm that best suits their needs, said Chris W. Cox, executive director of NRA-ILA. The National Rifle Association is pleased to assist Guns Save Life in defense of this freedom. By amending an existing 2013 ordinance, the Village Board of Trustees has now empowered local authorities to confiscate and destroy all so-called assault weapons" and "high capacity magazines possessed within village limits. The amendment also imposes a daily fine ranging between $250 and $1,000. We are going to fight this ordinance, which clearly violates our member's constitutional rights, and with the help of the NRA I believe we can secure a victory for law-abiding gun owners in and around Deerfield, said John Boch, president of Guns Save Life.
JDW Posted April 5, 2018 at 12:46 AM Posted April 5, 2018 at 12:46 AM Great news. WTG, GSL and NRA-ILA.
InterestedBystander Posted April 5, 2018 at 01:10 AM Author Posted April 5, 2018 at 01:10 AM That didn't take long....Thought I had read a while ago they assisted with another lawsuit in a different state so the template/general format was probably already existing. Plus this has been like 6 weeks or more in the making being discussed at 3 board meetings so there was time to prepare.
tricolor Posted April 5, 2018 at 01:34 AM Posted April 5, 2018 at 01:34 AM Good stuff, time to get in their wallets! I'd love to see a couple hundred thousand dollar check cut by Deer-field....
Mr. Fife Posted April 5, 2018 at 02:44 AM Posted April 5, 2018 at 02:44 AM Hopefully GSL will have standing to sue Deerfield by having some GSL members living in Deerfield. I'm not a lawyer but I know the NRA has a lot of good ones. Glad to see the NRA hasn't abandoned Illinois.
borgranta Posted April 5, 2018 at 03:03 AM Posted April 5, 2018 at 03:03 AM Hopefully GSL will have standing to sue Deerfield by having some GSL members living in Deerfield. I'm not a lawyer but I know the NRA has a lot of good ones. Glad to see the NRA hasn't abandoned Illinois.Would GSL have standing if one or more GSL members were to possess 15 magazine within village limits while passing through? Would GSL have standing if one or more GSL members were to possess 15 magazine within village limits while visiting family?
Euler Posted April 5, 2018 at 04:07 AM Posted April 5, 2018 at 04:07 AM Would GSL have standing if one or more GSL members were to possess 15 magazine within village limits while passing through? Would GSL have standing if one or more GSL members were to possess 15 magazine within village limits while visiting family?Transportation is covered by Federal law, with some modification by state law. You could be driving through Deerfield from Nevada to North Dakota with a full-auto M16 in your trunk. Neither Illinois nor Deerfield could do anything about that (as long as it stays in the trunk). If your endpoint is family in Deerfield, however, maybe you have standing. IANAL. I think it would be an uphill battle just to prove standing. Do you and your family have a history of doing something within Deerfield limits with your 15-round magazines? Trolling the city council wouldn't count as standing.
Mr. Fife Posted April 5, 2018 at 11:49 AM Posted April 5, 2018 at 11:49 AM Hopefully GSL will have standing to sue Deerfield by having some GSL members living in Deerfield. I'm not a lawyer but I know the NRA has a lot of good ones. Glad to see the NRA hasn't abandoned Illinois. Would GSL have standing if one or more GSL members were to possess 15 magazine within village limits while passing through? Would GSL have standing if one or more GSL members were to possess 15 magazine within village limits while visiting family? Maybe if you got arrested in Deerfield? Not sure how that standing thing works.
NakPPI Posted April 5, 2018 at 01:05 PM Posted April 5, 2018 at 01:05 PM Standing is going to turn on how they're challenging the ordinance and which parts of it. You have to be impacted by the ordinance in some way to have standing. There are various points that violate preemption, but until they try to enforce it against a FOID holder or CCL holder it's a grey area. Say a FOID holder in Deerfield files suit challenging the transportation section. Deerfield could amend the ordinance to say it doesn't apply to FOID holders and the suit becomes moot. Deerfield would be insane to fight that law suit, the preemption case law is quite clear in Illinois, but hey this is Illinois municipalities routinely thumb their noses at state law and wait to be sued to change it. If the challenge is based on 2A, it loses because the Highland Park case is still binding case law. The only point of that is to get it to SCOTUS. Either way, they'll find a Deerfield resident that's a member. Probably a WWII veteran or some such. Friedman is retired Navy. Example of above: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1878480.html Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
cybermgk Posted April 5, 2018 at 01:47 PM Posted April 5, 2018 at 01:47 PM http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/df/dfff4e4404a59f2592fcfe469047e493d01918ece75288b9f3af7a505dae33c3.jpg
jagt48 Posted April 5, 2018 at 01:55 PM Posted April 5, 2018 at 01:55 PM I didn't look too hard, but couldn't find if Deerfield had any ordinances on the books from the original ten day window. Anyone know? Or is this non-amended, new ordinance passed in violation of state law?
InterestedBystander Posted April 5, 2018 at 02:04 PM Author Posted April 5, 2018 at 02:04 PM I didn't look too hard, but couldn't find if Deerfield had any ordinances on the books from the original ten day window. Anyone know? Or is this non-amended, new ordinance passed in violation of state law?Original 10 day passed ordinance was an "assault weapon" storage and transportation law. This was amended to include the ban.
NakPPI Posted April 5, 2018 at 02:23 PM Posted April 5, 2018 at 02:23 PM Apparently the transportation section does exempt FOID holders so that's a bad example. Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
mchenryill Posted April 5, 2018 at 02:53 PM Posted April 5, 2018 at 02:53 PM Is the ISRA lawsuit filed today a separate suit?
soylentgreen Posted April 5, 2018 at 05:29 PM Posted April 5, 2018 at 05:29 PM HERE is why I'm an NRA life member.
skinnyb82 Posted April 5, 2018 at 05:31 PM Posted April 5, 2018 at 05:31 PM Hopefully we win this one. Gun owners beat California after they tried to ban magazines over 10 rounds but offered no compensation.And lost on appeal. The government can get away with seizing private property without recompense as long as they make some (pathetic) showing that it's in furtherance of public safety. Not some eminent domain case. I hope they threw in an Eighth Amendment excessive fines clause pleading. Since $1k/day is downright absurd and more than the fine for a DUI. Or was when I got mine.
InterestedBystander Posted April 5, 2018 at 05:43 PM Author Posted April 5, 2018 at 05:43 PM Is the ISRA lawsuit filed today a separate suit?Think so. It is the ISRA and SAF. One is never enough! ;-) http://www.isra.org/News/TabId/1068/ArtMID/4612/ArticleID/28707/ISRA-ALERT-April-5-2018.aspx ISRA ALERT - April 5, 2018 4/5/2018 The Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA) and Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) have filed a lawsuit against the Village of Deerfield this morning, April 5, 2018. This legal action is a challenge to the Defendants Ordinance O-18-06, passed on April 2, 2018, which bans assault weapons (used specifically as that term is defined in O-18-06) within the Defendants municipal limits. The suit was filed In the Circuit Court of the Nineteenth Judicial Circuit Lake County, Illinois, Chancery Division. To make a contribution to the Illinois State Rifle Association Legal Assistance Committee, please donate here. Please join the ISRA NOW!
mchenryill Posted April 5, 2018 at 05:44 PM Posted April 5, 2018 at 05:44 PM Good, the more the merrier.
SiliconSorcerer Posted April 5, 2018 at 05:52 PM Posted April 5, 2018 at 05:52 PM HERE is why I'm an NRA life member. That's one and why I just went to an endowment member, like them are not, it's one place to be counted.
Woodrift Posted April 5, 2018 at 06:08 PM Posted April 5, 2018 at 06:08 PM Hopefully we win this one. Gun owners beat California after they tried to ban magazines over 10 rounds but offered no compensation.And lost on appeal. The government can get away with seizing private property without recompense as long as they make some (pathetic) showing that it's in furtherance of public safety. Not some eminent domain case.I hope they threw in an Eighth Amendment excessive fines clause pleading. Since $1k/day is downright absurd and more than the fine for a DUI. Or was when I got mine.Forgive my ignorance, but every article I come across regarding their Proposition 63 that outlawed grandfathered "high capacity magazines" (those that were purchased before 2000) was shot down by a Federal judge. The court agreed with the plaintiffs that confiscation of the magazines violated the Fifth Amendments prohibition on the taking of property for public use without compensation. When did they lose the appeal?
InterestedBystander Posted April 5, 2018 at 09:18 PM Author Posted April 5, 2018 at 09:18 PM ISRA/SAF case; looks to be accessible only through search Court date July 5, 2018 https://circuitclerk.lakecountyil.gov/publicAccess/html/common/index.xhtml Case Number Party Name Case Title Filed Date Case Type Case Sub Type Case Status <<<>>>18CH00000427 ILLINOIS STATE RIFLE ASSOCIATION EASTERDAY VS VILLAGE OF DEERFIELD 2018-04-05 CHANCERY INJUNCTION ACTIVE Court Case DetailsCase Number: 18CH00000427Case Title: EASTERDAY VS VILLAGE OF DEERFIELDCase Type: CHANCERYCase SubType: INJUNCTION Case Status: ACTIVEFiled Date: 2018-04-05 Parties on Case Judgment Court Events Documents Filed Party Role Responsible AttorneyEASTERDAY, DANIEL D. PLAINTIFF SIGALE, DAVID G.ILLINOIS STATE RIFLE ASSOCIATION PLAINTIFF SIGALE, DAVID G.SECOND AMENDMENT FOUNDATION INC PLAINTIFF SIGALE, DAVID G.VILLAGE OF DEERFIELD ILLINOIS DEFENDANT
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