Under New Law - Replacement Parts/Upgrades For Items Under AW

[FieldGL]

Hello, I apologize if this has already been asked. Trying to keep up with the new changes and what it means for the future. Are we still able to buy AR-15 parts (either for upgrading, completing a build or repair)? It seems pretty vague, and from what I can tell online, online shops have not restricted this to IL residents. Just want to know what might be a good idea to keep on hand for the future. Obviously non-serialized parts can be purchased out of state, if needed, but it would sure suck if they are illegal and you were not aware and got caught bringing it over (hypothetical, of course). 

[Arch_Stanton]

I just tried to buy a bcg from PSA and it would not let me check out. I’m in DuPage county and never had a problem before. 

[smokehouse]

I was talking about this to a friend, my guess is that Illinois becomes a shipping black out state for many parts. Most sites already have Chicago listed in their “will no ship to” along side CA, NY, others. I’m sure they’ll just change that to “no shipping to Il”, which sucks. 

[mab22]

On 1/11/2023 at 12:50 PM, FieldGL said:

Hello, I apologize if this has already been asked. Trying to keep up with the new changes and what it means for the future. Are we still able to buy AR-15 parts (either for upgrading, completing a build or repair)? It seems pretty vague, and from what I can tell online, online shops have not restricted this to IL residents. Just want to know what might be a good idea to keep on hand for the future. Obviously non-serialized parts can be purchased out of state, if needed, but it would sure suck if they are illegal and you were not aware and got caught bringing it over (hypothetical, of course). 

No sales of parts going forward.

[FieldGL]

On 1/11/2023 at 2:01 PM, Arch_Stanton said:

I just tried to buy a bcg from PSA and it would not let me check out. I’m in DuPage county and never had a problem before. 

 

Yes, I just tried PSA and got the same result when it verified my address. Well, this sucks. I have been out of the loop and didn't think this would happen so fast. I guess if something breaks, we have to rely on the manufacturer to fix or send a part. 

[guzzimike66]

For giggles I added only a 3 dollar castle nut and it's no go as well.

[Book'm]

I've had an order "Processing" for almost a week now. You folks are not inspiring a lot of hope. 

[Dumak_from_arfcom]

On 1/11/2023 at 2:26 PM, mab22 said:

No sales of parts going forward.

 

So I can't buy a glock barrel or even new G19 recoil springs? 

[ealcala31]

On 1/11/2023 at 2:26 PM, mab22 said:

No sales of parts going forward.

This is what I was told as well...

[ealcala31]

On 1/11/2023 at 2:56 PM, Dumak_from_arfcom said:

 

So I can't buy a glock barrel or even new G19 recoil springs? 

A Glock 19 is not a banned semi-auto pistol. You should be able to order parts for it. I have a threaded barrel for a Glock 19 that I have been having issues with. I bought a factory Glock 19 barrel and it has been working fine ever since. I am going to have to get a return authorization number from Rival Arms and I'm sure that is going to be a problem. 

[Jacob76]

I was able to order a trigger guard from a well known site out of Columbia, MO. They’ve shut down a purchase for a lower receiver before based on Cook County. When I added a lower to my cart this time it refused to let me continue based on IL law not Cook County. 
 

It didn’t throw that error when I put a BCG or castle nut in my cart. I didn’t go through with a purchase though so YMMV.

[EdDinIL]

When the presumed injunction comes, pausing the law, I wonder if the suppliers will be as quick to restart parts shipment.

[Dumak_from_arfcom]

I can't see how replacement parts can be banned. Have a trigger spring break and that's it?  Worn out barrel? Good luck? 

 

If that is true, we're dealing with so much stuff that one, two, or ever three lawsuits won't cut it.  

[2A4Cook]

On 1/11/2023 at 3:41 PM, EdDinIL said:

When the presumed injunction comes, pausing the law, I wonder if the suppliers will be as quick to restart parts shipment.

Many will, many won't.  I wouldn't bet on Bud's, for example.  Their lawyers don't seem to know anything about Illinois law, yet have refused to ship mags over 10 rounds to Cook County (among other stupid things).  Don't bet on Sig Sauer or CZ, either (same problem, under-informed and over cautious lawyers).

[Jacob76]

When St. Benitez applied an injunction to CA’s mag ban I know several manufacturers concentrated their efforts on fulfilling orders from CA over other states. 

[EdDinIL]

On 1/11/2023 at 3:40 PM, Jacob76 said:

I was able to order a trigger guard from a well known site out of Columbia, MO. They’ve shut down a purchase for a lower receiver before based on Cook County. When I added a lower to my cart this time it refused to let me continue based on IL law not Cook County. 
 

It didn’t throw that error when I put a BCG or castle nut in my cart. I didn’t go through with a purchase though so YMMV.

I just tested ordering a deal-of-the-day lower build kit from that site, it didn't go through.  It was the only thing in my cart.  It was blocked when I went to check out.  The "shipping restrictions page" hasn't been updated yet to reflect the new tyranny.

 

 

 

[Chuckd]

I was at Range USA today. They are not selling any AR 15  rifles rounds for rifles or any clips that hold more then10 rounds for rifles, or  15 rounds for pistols..  They also are not selling any accessories for the A.R. 15 that I already own… there were quite a few people there coming in wanting to buy AR 15 assault rifles and accessories, but they were being turned away. So very sorry they’re not able to exercise their Second Amendment rights

[JNG3]

On 1/11/2023 at 4:24 PM, Chuckd said:

I was at Range USA today. They are not selling any AR 15  rifles rounds for rifles or any clips that hold more then10 rounds for rifles, or  15 rounds for pistols..  They also are not selling any accessories for the A.R. 15 that I already own… there were quite a few people there coming in wanting to buy AR 15 assault rifles and accessories, but they were being turned away. So very sorry they’re not able to exercise their Second Amendment rights

Am I reading your post correctly? No .223/5.56 ammo being sold?

[xrrcr]

I sent emails to the sponsors asking what to do now about parts. Also copied my Senator / Rep on the emails.

 

Not so patiently waiting for a reply.

[Capt_Destro]

PSA has always been a stick in the mud in regards to Cook County, home rule, etc. Now they will take the same stance with IL.

 

They wouldnt even ship me a WOOD handguard lmao.

 

"We support the second amendment, unless antis scare us"

 

A few stores are still shipping parts, but I won't name them here. Antis can do their own homework/leg work. 

 

The small mom and pop shops are likely to not give a ****. The big stores/anyone who uses RSR Group to drop ship will probably cancel orders.

 

The fact this law was passes so quick is why retailers are scared. They want to take time to revisit their store policy, unlike our legislature that rushed this law through. 

[Benbow]

• I don't see where PARTS are banned.  I do not see where RECEIVERS are banned.  I might not want to deal with a receiver with the EXACT markings as on the ban list, but if its just a receiver, and it is not exactly what is listed on the ban, by make, model etc, then I do not see a problem.

It also appears to me that if you have a C&R license, as long as the barrel is less than 16 inches, I dont see how the AW ban applies on its face.

also

Non-semi auto rifles that LOOK LIKE, but are not M16A2 rifles have been sold for years

[Tango7]

FWIW, remember that Princess Madigan spent our tax money issuing "legal" notices to hundreds of out-of-state vendors ordering them to comply with the FOID recording requirement, and threatening legal action if they didn't.

 

A lesson from the Daley family - easy to pay for the jackboots - and even the eventual settlement after the conduct is found to be unconstitutional - from the bottomless taxpayer purse.

[ealcala31]

I was up till about midnight removing all "banned" items from my website. I am writing in a biased mindset, but this is all Chicago/Cook County's fault (and I live in Cook County). All these @$$holes voted in super majorities this past November, what did all us Pro-Gun Illinoisans think was going to happen. 

[mab22]

On 1/11/2023 at 4:57 PM, Benbow said:

• I don't see where PARTS are banned.  I do not see where RECEIVERS are banned.  I might not want to deal with a receiver with the EXACT markings as on the ban list, but if its just a receiver, and it is not exactly what is listed on the ban, by make, model etc, then I do not see a problem.

It also appears to me that if you have a C&R license, as long as the barrel is less than 16 inches, I dont see how the AW ban applies on its face.

also

Non-semi auto rifles that LOOK LIKE, but are not M16A2 rifles have been sold for years

No offense but I don’t think your getting it, the “list” isn’t a definitive lists, it’s like examples. 
NO AR or AK parts, no finishing that build your working on, no repairs. 
 

[spanishjames]

On 1/11/2023 at 4:28 PM, JNG3 said:

Am I reading your post correctly? No .223/5.56 ammo being sold?

Buddy of mine works at Range USA Hodgkins. Says they're still selling AR/AK ammo. 

[r4ndy]

Easy enough to go to a bordering state and buy items not specifically banned if local and online retailers won’t sell them to you. Plenty of places in WI and IN to buy parts until this gets reversed. 

[SkyRider]

Regarding parts, it would seem it is not illegal to buy general replacement parts for an existing weapon, but the potential problem for a seller would be to understand intent of the buyer as to whether someone was trying to convert a firearm into an “assault weapon,” or to assemble one from scratch … which would be prohibited. Strictly prohibited parts would be those designed increase the rate of fire.

[Capt_Destro]

They have no way to regulate non serialized parts, uppers, etc (which also are used on firearms that aren't semi-auto).

 

The only way they can reduce the amount flowing in is to threaten OUT OF STATE companies with frivolous lawsuits. 

 

Technically AR15 lowers are not even AW themselves until an upper with a working gas system is attached. They can be Bolt Actions/Straight Pull. 

 

Readily convertible is venomous language. Anything can be readily convertible if a hack saw or basic tools are in a house hold or garage. 

[DoYouFeelLucky]

I'm thinking of organizing bus day-trips from select IL locations to Brownells in Grinnell IA.  Leave early in the am, spend about 3 hours at Brownells, a nice lunch at a selected restaurant in the Amana Colonies, and back to IL with your goodies.

 

[Flynn]

On 1/11/2023 at 10:04 PM, Capt_Destro said:

Readily convertible is venomous language. Anything can be readily convertible if a hack saw or basic tools are in a house hold or garage. 

 

If the 2nd was treated as the right it is that "readily convertible" terminlogy would have been ruled ambiguous and shot down day one when the NFA made it up and that would have been the end of it, but here we are decades upon decades later and the definition is still whatever they pull out of thin air and declare that day or the next on a whim!

 

It's literally a pre-crime law, what you have is actually legal and not prohibited but if we decide it could be made into something illegal and prohibited even though it's not that prohibited item, then what you have is illegal and you are guilty, how that has stood up in court is beyond me!