gearsmithy Posted May 4, 2017 at 06:39 AM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 06:39 AM done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmyers Posted May 4, 2017 at 09:38 AM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 09:38 AM is sb607 the correct bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeekDad Posted May 4, 2017 at 12:40 PM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 12:40 PM (edited) Done SB607 is correct. I think the thread title is wrong. SB711 is related to the Vehicle code and short titles. Edited May 4, 2017 at 12:40 PM by GeekDad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert9999 Posted May 4, 2017 at 01:17 PM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 01:17 PM Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 4, 2017 at 01:53 PM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 01:53 PM (edited) Done SB607 is correct. I think the thread title is wrong. SB711 is related to the Vehicle code and short titles.Not sure why/when they do and dont use leading zeroes on their bill numbers even though they are all 4 digits :-) SB711 was a prior years knife bill which did not get passed. Only the OP, if a supporting member, or I assume a Mod can change the title. Edited May 4, 2017 at 01:57 PM by InterestedBystander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa Posted May 4, 2017 at 02:38 PM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 02:38 PM done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldMarineVet Posted May 4, 2017 at 02:40 PM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 02:40 PM (edited) I filed a witness slip for SB607 at the end of February. Is there any reason for me to do it again? Edited May 4, 2017 at 02:41 PM by OldMarineVet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted May 4, 2017 at 02:48 PM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 02:48 PM I filed a witness slip for SB607 at the end of February. Is there any reason for me to do it again?I believe so since it was just released in the House to a committee. Senate slips will nit follow into the house so you would need a new one, uless you see your name in the link below http://my.ilga.gov/Hearing/WitnessSlipInfo/100589?hearingId=14886&LegislationDocumentId=127690&HCommittees5%2F10%2F2017-page=1&committeeid=0&chamber=H&nodays=7&_=1493862934382 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 4, 2017 at 02:51 PM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 02:51 PM I filed a witness slip for SB607 at the end of February. Is there any reason for me to do it again?Yes. Witness slips, as I understand it, are only good for the hearing which they were filed for. When that bill does not get called or the hearing is cancelled/rescheduled, slips are not reported and you are basically starting over on witness slips for that next hearing. Previous hearings and slips were for the Senate and the bill has now moved on to the House. Please correct me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splash Posted May 4, 2017 at 03:26 PM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 03:26 PM Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazborgufen Posted May 4, 2017 at 03:44 PM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 03:44 PM Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted May 4, 2017 at 04:09 PM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 04:09 PM done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoRonin70 Posted May 4, 2017 at 09:41 PM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 09:41 PM I filed a witness slip on that yesterday, and saw my name on the Proponent list, but now it's vanished. What's the deal with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchenryill Posted May 4, 2017 at 10:31 PM Share Posted May 4, 2017 at 10:31 PM Done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoffsoft Posted May 11, 2017 at 02:10 AM Share Posted May 11, 2017 at 02:10 AM Just to keep this thread current:5/9/2017House Do Pass / Short Debate Judiciary - Criminal Committee; 013-000-0005/10/2017HousePlaced on Calendar 2nd Reading - Short Debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drumgod Posted May 11, 2017 at 02:47 PM Share Posted May 11, 2017 at 02:47 PM I can't help but notice that the proponents are predominately male and the opponents are predominately female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 11, 2017 at 05:36 PM Share Posted May 11, 2017 at 05:36 PM 2nd Reading today and placed on House calendar for 3rd reading. one step closer 5/9/2017HouseDo Pass / Short Debate Judiciary - Criminal Committee; 013-000-000 5/10/2017HousePlaced on Calendar 2nd Reading - Short Debate 5/11/2017HouseSecond Reading - Short Debate 5/11/2017HousePlaced on Calendar Order of 3rd Reading - Short Debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted May 11, 2017 at 05:56 PM Share Posted May 11, 2017 at 05:56 PM (edited) Just an observation, in case the question comes up: Nonresidents will not be covered by this bill unless they have a FOID. The current FOID Act allows nonresidents to possess firearms and ammunition in the state without a FOID card. SB607 does not add switchblades to this list. Nonresidents who qualify for and have a FOID will be allowed to possess a switchblade, but other nonresidents will not. Edited May 11, 2017 at 06:03 PM by kwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted May 11, 2017 at 09:35 PM Share Posted May 11, 2017 at 09:35 PM Yes because everybody knows that if you have a knife blade that shoots out at the push of a button it clearly becomes more deadly than any other bladed object. Especially in a CCL holders hands. And these people are not only allowed to speak but also permitted to run a state huh ? Fear mongering morons. When is the illogical nonsense gonna stop.... Probably never right. Just like FCCL holders have to abide by the "cooling off" period to purchase a new firearm when we have one on our person... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango7 Posted May 11, 2017 at 09:38 PM Share Posted May 11, 2017 at 09:38 PM Just an observation, in case the question comes up: Nonresidents will not be covered by this bill unless they have a FOID. The current FOID Act allows nonresidents to possess firearms and ammunition in the state without a FOID card. SB607 does not add switchblades to this list. Nonresidents who qualify for and have a FOID will be allowed to possess a switchblade, but other nonresidents will not. How many nonresidents have FOID's? I thought that was one of the conundrums of the old UUW that was addressed by Holmes in 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted May 11, 2017 at 11:02 PM Share Posted May 11, 2017 at 11:02 PM (edited) Not sure of the actual number of nonresidents who have FOIDs. There are at least 25K or 30K that are eligible. Nevertheless, most nonresidents don't qualify. Holmes doesn't help us here. The IL Supreme Court ruling addressed two issues: unloaded and in a case / accessibility, and a unified reading of both the UUW statute and the FOID Act as they apply to possession of firearms. It is the latter issue that you are probably thinking of here. The FOID Act allows possession of firearms, tasers, stun guns, and ammunition without a FOID card under specific circumstances. Provisions include: (9) Nonresidents whose firearms are unloaded and enclosed in a case; (10) Nonresidents who are currently licensed or registered to possess a firearm in their resident state; The court said that Holmes was legal to possess a firearm because he did have a license to carry in Indiana, even if he didn't have it with him. (As an aside, an actual physical license isn't required; a more recent Federal court ruling in the Central District Court of Illinois concluded that "allowed to possess" in one's home state is what this section of the statute really means.) But the FOID Act doesn't mention knives, nor does the proposed switchblade bill add anything about them. The bill only makes changes to the UUW/AUUW statute. So neither of these nonresident exemptions in the FOID Act apply to nonresident possession of switchblades. It's an important nuance because if the bill passes, the headlines will say that Illinois no longer bans switchblade knives for FOID holders, and nonresidents used to bringing firearms into the state under the FOID exemptions might assume they would also be legal carrying a switchblade into the state, too. They would be mistaken. Nevertheless, the legislation is progress and it's encouraging to see the level of support it is receiving. . Edited May 11, 2017 at 11:11 PM by kwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plinkermostly Posted May 12, 2017 at 12:11 AM Share Posted May 12, 2017 at 12:11 AM Is there Federal law about interstate and switchblades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRJ Posted May 12, 2017 at 12:23 AM Share Posted May 12, 2017 at 12:23 AM One problem I see is getting the HR policy in every company to reflect the new permissive law. I can carry a blade less than 3 inches long under my policy now, but switchblades are forbidden. I doubt that policy will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls74 Posted May 12, 2017 at 01:08 AM Share Posted May 12, 2017 at 01:08 AM Technology has all but passed the prohibition on these types of knives. The days of the Soc's and Greasers are long gone, stay golden Ponyboy. Truthfully, as a deer hunter I could see this as advantageous should a fall from stand occur. Hanging from the lifeline and potentially having blood or oxygen cut off from restriction, a press of a button rather than a failed flip of a lever could be the difference in permanent disability or death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tod Posted May 12, 2017 at 04:05 PM Share Posted May 12, 2017 at 04:05 PM 2nd Reading today and placed on House calendar for 3rd reading. one step closer 5/9/2017HouseDo Pass / Short Debate Judiciary - Criminal Committee; 013-000-0005/10/2017HousePlaced on Calendar 2nd Reading - Short Debate5/11/2017HouseSecond Reading - Short Debate5/11/2017HousePlaced on Calendar Order of 3rd Reading - Short Debate So all that's left is the 3rd reading in the House, then the vote, then on to the governor to sign or veto, right? I sincerely hope this bill is enacted ... on behalf of all disabled people who have difficulty opening a traditional pocket knife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazborgufen Posted May 12, 2017 at 06:47 PM Share Posted May 12, 2017 at 06:47 PM Silly question, but are there blade length restrictions in the state? I keep hearing that Chicago does, but I've never seen the actual law, so I'm not sure if it's reality or just word-of-mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdm45aaron Posted May 12, 2017 at 06:55 PM Share Posted May 12, 2017 at 06:55 PM Silly question, but are there blade length restrictions in the state? I keep hearing that Chicago does, but I've never seen the actual law, so I'm not sure if it's reality or just word-of-mouth.Long story short, 3" in the general rule I believe but yes each municipality can have their own restrictions. Chicago is 2.5" I believe. Then there's the whole intent thing and each cop is different so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemikos Posted May 13, 2017 at 01:24 PM Share Posted May 13, 2017 at 01:24 PM Silly question, but are there blade length restrictions in the state? I keep hearing that Chicago does, but I've never seen the actual law, so I'm not sure if it's reality or just word-of-mouth. State law (IL UUW) says it's illegal to carry a "dangerous knife" with the intent to use it in an unlawful manner, then defines "dangerous knife" as one with a blade longer than three inches. I guess it's perfectly fine to carry a knife with the intent to use it in an unlawful manner if it's less than 3"... So under state law, if they can prove you intended to use your hunting knife unlawfully, you might be breaking the law. If it's just sitting in your pocket or on your belt, no issues. Local ordinances vary. For instance, any blade over 2.5" is prohibited in Chicago, full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InterestedBystander Posted May 18, 2017 at 06:49 PM Share Posted May 18, 2017 at 06:49 PM (edited) For those not following daily ILGA thread, today the bill is passed out of House on a vote of 61/45/2. Edited May 18, 2017 at 06:49 PM by InterestedBystander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tod Posted May 19, 2017 at 12:50 PM Share Posted May 19, 2017 at 12:50 PM For those not following daily ILGA thread, today the bill is passed out of House on a vote of 61/45/2.Great news! Wonder how long it will take the governor to sign the law ... which is effective immediately! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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