Jump to content


Photo

Action Alert!


  • Please log in to reply
45 replies to this topic

#1 Molly B.

    IllinoisCarry spokesperson

  • Moderator
  • 16,163 posts
  • Joined: 18-April 05

Posted 30 May 2019 - 01:18 AM

House Democrats Pass SB1966! "Fix the FOID" Goes to Senate!

Action Needed NOW!

 

SB1966 passed out of the House 62-52 yesterday.  The bill demands all law-abiding citzens applying for or renewing a FOID card must submit fingerprintsto the state police.  The bill raises the cost of the FOID card from $10 for 10 years to nearly $100 for 5 years:  $20 FOID fee + $30 fingerprint fee + $38 FBI background check fee. The bill also bans private firearm sales. The bill now goes to the Senate and can be called for a vote at anytime.

 

This bill also seeks to undo what our friend Otis McDonald fought so hard for in Chicago with McDonald vs Chicago. The bill will keep many law-abiding people in the poorest and most dangerous neighborhoods from being able to legally purchase a firearm. 

 

The bill will also ban firearm purchases for IL Medical Marijuana card holders. MM users can only purchase firearms through private transfers due to federal law.  Once private transfers are banned, so is the right to legally purchase firearms by MM card holders.  The same will be true for recreational marijuana users if the recreational use bill passes.

 

Urgent!

 

Call your State Senator, express your opposition to SB1966. Urge your Senator to vote NO!  Calls should be made to the Springfield offices.

 

 

Find your state representative at this link!


"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." --Samuel Adams

#2 Str8Shooter

  • Members
  • 8 posts
  • Joined: 23-May 19

Posted 30 May 2019 - 06:58 AM

Reference in last line is to SB1996 instead of SB1966.

 

Thanks



#3 Illini2A312

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • PipPipPip
  • 158 posts
  • Joined: 30-April 18

Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:44 AM

Also should we mention Amish cardholders as well?

#4 mbnut

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 481 posts
  • Joined: 18-February 14

Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:57 AM

Done
NRA Life Member
ISRA Life Member
ISRA Range Member
GOA Member

#5 Nanook

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 1,231 posts
  • Joined: 10-May 11

Posted 30 May 2019 - 08:14 AM

I emailed the state senator for my area. No response so far, but I had no response from recent previous emails either. So, I don't know where she stands on this issue. 

 

She is an 'R', but in this state that means little. 


“A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims... but accomplices.” -- George Orwell

 


#6 Str8Shooter

  • Members
  • 8 posts
  • Joined: 23-May 19

Posted 30 May 2019 - 08:21 AM

Blocked.

 

The office of Sen. John Mulroe (D-IL 10th District) is not answering the telephone and his mailbox is full so no message can be left.



#7 InterestedBystander

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 6,599 posts
  • Joined: 15-March 13

Posted 30 May 2019 - 08:37 AM

No answer at Springfield office...leave a brief msg and we will call you back. Will try again later, but did speak with local office.
NRA Life Member
ISRA Member
FFL-IL Supporter
SAF Member
GOA Member
🇺🇸

#8 POAT54

    Member

  • Members
  • 2,547 posts
  • Joined: 15-March 13

Posted 30 May 2019 - 08:45 AM

No answer when calling, Got the assistants voice mail, left polite message asking senator to vote against the bad bill SB 1996. I did call it a poll tax. 


“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
― Benjamin Franklin

 

"The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


#9 2old2play

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 123 posts
  • Joined: 17-March 10

Posted 30 May 2019 - 08:52 AM

Done.  I hope it's not too late.


A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed. 2nd Amendment US Constitution
But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. 1 Timothy 5:8 KJV

#10 spec5

    Nuclear Member

  • Members
  • 4,762 posts
  • Joined: 18-April 09

Posted 30 May 2019 - 08:56 AM

No answer when calling, Got the assistants voice mail, left polite message asking senator to vote against the bad bill SB 1996. I did call it a poll tax.


Not 1996 it is 1966.
NRA Member Life Member
ISRA Member
Illinois Carry
Pershing Nuclear Missile 56th Field Artillery Brigade Veteran
1/41 Field Artillary Germany

#11 DD123

    Freedom Lover

  • Members
  • 9,096 posts
  • Joined: 03-January 14

Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:06 AM

I called, multiple times over the last couple of weeks.  Unfortunately my senator is Harmon.  

 

If this passes and gets signed into law, it seems the best path forward to get it struck down through the courts is to have it challenged by a group of minorities who are at or near the poverty level.  

 

The same argument can be made about this bill that the left constantly makes against voter ID.  They say voter ID is racist because it targets minorities who can't afford an ID, or wouldn't know how to get one, or be able to get to the place to get one.  

 

Seems an increase in the costs to exercise your constitutional rights as high as what's stated in the bill warrants a court case if it passes.  The lawsuit must come from the group I mentioned above.  


Force and intimidation are the tools of tyrants.  - Ron Paul

 

If Democrats quit shooting people, "gun violence" would go down by 80%.......

 

Taxation is theft

 

"Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny" - Thomas Jefferson


#12 steveTA84

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 4,747 posts
  • Joined: 14-December 15

Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:20 AM

I called, multiple times over the last couple of weeks.  Unfortunately my senator is Harmon.  
 
If this passes and gets signed into law, it seems the best path forward to get it struck down through the courts is to have it challenged by a group of minorities who are at or near the poverty level.  
 
The same argument can be made about this bill that the left constantly makes against voter ID.  They say voter ID is racist because it targets minorities who can't afford an ID, or wouldn't know how to get one, or be able to get to the place to get one.  
 
Seems an increase in the costs to exercise your constitutional rights as high as what's stated in the bill warrants a court case if it passes.  The lawsuit must come from the group I mentioned above.

+1. And when the dems/state fights it, itll show they dont give a damn about poverty level minorities

Edited by steveTA84, 30 May 2019 - 09:20 AM.


#13 springfield shooter

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 293 posts
  • Joined: 18-February 16

Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:30 AM

Done. Mine's pro-2A, but it can't hurt to call.


"I can't spare this man. He fights."  Abraham Lincoln


#14 POAT54

    Member

  • Members
  • 2,547 posts
  • Joined: 15-March 13

Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:31 AM

 

No answer when calling, Got the assistants voice mail, left polite message asking senator to vote against the bad bill SB 1996. I did call it a poll tax.


Not 1996 it is 1966.

 

Sorry typo


“Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
― Benjamin Franklin

 

"The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."


#15 springfield shooter

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 293 posts
  • Joined: 18-February 16

Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:39 AM

I called, multiple times over the last couple of weeks.  Unfortunately my senator is Harmon.  

 

If this passes and gets signed into law, it seems the best path forward to get it struck down through the courts is to have it challenged by a group of minorities who are at or near the poverty level.  

 

The same argument can be made about this bill that the left constantly makes against voter ID.  They say voter ID is racist because it targets minorities who can't afford an ID, or wouldn't know how to get one, or be able to get to the place to get one.  

 

Seems an increase in the costs to exercise your constitutional rights as high as what's stated in the bill warrants a court case if it passes.  The lawsuit must come from the group I mentioned above.  

 

Well, FOID cards won't keep dead people from potentially voting. Voted ID, OTOH...…. 


"I can't spare this man. He fights."  Abraham Lincoln


#16 harley1955

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 206 posts
  • Joined: 18-September 17

Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:54 AM

Done. Although my senator is Andy Manar, a democrat. He represents the 48th district, including part or all of Christian, Macon, Macoupin, Madison, Montgomery, and Sangamon counties, so he may vote no. I'll be voting against him in 2020 if possible. I'll never vote for a Democrat again as long as I live.



#17 evilbrownrifle

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 223 posts
  • Joined: 14-June 13

Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:55 AM

I have Julie Morrison at the Senate level and Jonathan Carroll at the rep level. Even so, I'll make another useless effort.



#18 Str8Shooter

  • Members
  • 8 posts
  • Joined: 23-May 19

Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:55 AM

The Medical Marijuana law, as I understand it, does not prevent a person participating in that program from owning a firearm.

 

 

Does the enactment of SB1966 violate the intent of the The Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act in making an afflicted person choose between safe symptom relief through use of cannabis derivatives (as an alternative to using deadly opiates) and the right to  be safe in ones home?

 

Does the felonious omission of reporting cannabis use on a 4473 constitute a refusal to testify against one's self, a right guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution?

 

 

More people are now dying from opiate use than from homicides using firearms, so claims that SB1966 serves the public interest of a net saving of lives is clearly false.


Edited by Str8Shooter, 30 May 2019 - 09:58 AM.


#19 Jeffrey

    Member

  • Members
  • 5,554 posts
  • Joined: 10-January 08

Posted 30 May 2019 - 10:02 AM

The Medical Marijuana law, as I understand it, does not prevent a person participating in that program from owning a firearm.

 

 

Does the enactment of SB1966 violate the intent of the The Compassionate Use of Medical Cannabis Pilot Program Act in making an afflicted person choose between safe symptom relief through use of cannabis derivatives (as an alternative to using deadly opiates) and the right to  be safe in ones home?

 

Does the felonious omission of reporting cannabis use on a 4473 constitute a refusal to testify against one's self, a right guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution?

 

 

More people are now dying from opiate use than from homicides using firearms, so claims that SB1966 serves the public interest of a net saving of lives is clearly false.

In the event the state passes a recreational law, how would they be able to identify a user and ultimately block them from being able to purchase from a LGS?  I'm already aware the question comes up on a 4473 but when has that ever stopped someone?


...and justice for all

YOUR WALLET, the only place Democrats care to drill

#20 evilbrownrifle

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 223 posts
  • Joined: 14-June 13

Posted 30 May 2019 - 10:03 AM

The bright side, as has been pointed out before. If this passes it should be a slam dunk legally. Maybe even help end the FOID completely. It also might wake up a few of the napping Fudds,

 

If the Senate holds fast, it might indicate we still have at least some leverage when worse bills than this come down the line.



#21 Just some guy

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPip
  • 141 posts
  • Joined: 10-May 16

Posted 30 May 2019 - 10:14 AM

Called my State Senator's office this morning. I said I was calling to urge my Senator to vote against SB1966. The aide said "Well of course you know he will!". Asked her to thank the Senator for his continued support of the 2A.  My State Rep. also voted no on SB1966. Proud that I can count on the people I helped elect.


Fast is fine, accurate is final.


#22 InterestedBystander

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 6,599 posts
  • Joined: 15-March 13

Posted 30 May 2019 - 10:41 AM

Called again and got through to office this time. Sounds like my Senator will be a NO vote!
NRA Life Member
ISRA Member
FFL-IL Supporter
SAF Member
GOA Member
🇺🇸

#23 TomKoz

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 4,307 posts
  • Joined: 04-February 10

Posted 30 May 2019 - 10:59 AM

Done. Although my senator is Andy Manar, a democrat. He represents the 48th district, including part or all of Christian, Macon, Macoupin, Madison, Montgomery, and Sangamon counties, so he may vote no. I'll be voting against him in 2020 if possible. I'll never vote for a Democrat again as long as I live.


Better to see the light late rather than never.

Welcome to the Never D & Walk Away movement !!
Stay Alert ... Stay Alive !!

#24 Molly B.

    IllinoisCarry spokesperson

  • Moderator
  • 16,163 posts
  • Joined: 18-April 05

Posted 30 May 2019 - 11:01 AM

We are hearing it could be heard in committee today and we'll probably only get 1-hr. posting notice.  Please help us keep an eye out for it so we can get a call for witness slips out there.


"It does not take a majority to prevail ... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." --Samuel Adams

#25 skinnyb82

    Member

  • Members
  • 7,019 posts
  • Joined: 07-November 12

Posted 30 May 2019 - 11:01 AM

Does the felonious omission of reporting cannabis use on a 4473 constitute a refusal to testify against one's self, a right guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment to the Constitution?
Nope it does not since you have the option of simply not purchasing the firearm. You don't NEED to do it to comply with the law. Compliance would be answering yes or simply not proceeding with the transfer since it (the firearm) is NOT in your possession when you attest on the 4473. If that logic makes sense heh. It's much different than the state mandating gun registration. THAT is a violation of the 5A Self-incrimination Clause, incorporated and all that jazz, because it requires those who already unlawfully possess a firearm to register it, thereby incriminating themselves as they are forced to report to the state that they illegally possess a firearm. See Haynes v. United States, 390 U.S. 85 (1968). Haynes was a convicted felon and did not register an NFA item. He argued that the registration requirement violated his 5A right against self-incrimination by requiring him to tell the federal government that he's committing a crime and SCOTUS agreed, with only Justice Earl Warren in dissent. That defect in the NFA was cured and litigated in US v. Freed but still (theoretically) prohibits state-level gun registration schemes. Sent from my VS987 using Tapatalk
NRA Member
SAF Member
C&R License Holder

#26 Johnnybgood

    Member

  • Members
  • 1,373 posts
  • Joined: 02-April 05

Posted 30 May 2019 - 11:22 AM

Called our Senator Andy Manar. Left them with our no vote. Assistant said the phones were ringing off the hook. I hope they all refuse to answer. Maybe they are getting the idea.



#27 harley1955

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 206 posts
  • Joined: 18-September 17

Posted 30 May 2019 - 11:49 AM

 

Done. Although my senator is Andy Manar, a democrat. He represents the 48th district, including part or all of Christian, Macon, Macoupin, Madison, Montgomery, and Sangamon counties, so he may vote no. I'll be voting against him in 2020 if possible. I'll never vote for a Democrat again as long as I live.


Better to see the light late rather than never.

Welcome to the Never D & Walk Away movement !!

 

 

Thanks! I don't see how anyone who values the constitution could ever vote for a Dem again, they have all lost their ever loving minds....



#28 steveTA84

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 4,747 posts
  • Joined: 14-December 15

Posted 30 May 2019 - 11:56 AM

^^^^^ yeah, they have......

https://www.lifenews...d-be-castrated/

Pro-life advocate Babette Holder called on Illinois state Rep. Dianne Pappas to be formally reprimanded this week for saying men should be castrated to end abortion.

Holder, a pro-life advocate in the black community and president of the Frederick Douglass Foundation, told the DuPage Policy Journal that Pappas comments are unacceptable.
She needs to be censored, she told the news outlet. There needs to be accountability when you make these kinds of statements, and youre supposed to be a public servant.
Pappas is a pro-abortion Democrat who supports a radical new bill that would treat abortion as a fundamental right and strip away even minor protections for unborn babies and medical professionals who object to abortions. Pro-life voters fear the bill could pass with Democrats in control of both state houses and the governors office.

Here that fellas? There are dems that think we should have our nuts chopped off.


-charge to exercise a right
-fingerprint all gun owners and treat us like criminals
-unrestricted abortion (up until birth)
-cut our nuts off


HONK HONK!!!! Its the democrat way


BTW, she voted for SB1966

y3st2ZM.jpg

Edited by steveTA84, 30 May 2019 - 12:14 PM.


#29 harley1955

    Member

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 206 posts
  • Joined: 18-September 17

Posted 30 May 2019 - 01:09 PM

^^^^^ yeah, they have......

https://www.lifenews...d-be-castrated/
 

Pro-life advocate Babette Holder called on Illinois state Rep. Dianne Pappas to be formally reprimanded this week for saying men should be castrated to end abortion.

Holder, a pro-life advocate in the black community and president of the Frederick Douglass Foundation, told the DuPage Policy Journal that Pappas comments are unacceptable.
She needs to be censored, she told the news outlet. There needs to be accountability when you make these kinds of statements, and youre supposed to be a public servant.
Pappas is a pro-abortion Democrat who supports a radical new bill that would treat abortion as a fundamental right and strip away even minor protections for unborn babies and medical professionals who object to abortions. Pro-life voters fear the bill could pass with Democrats in control of both state houses and the governors office.

Here that fellas? There are dems that think we should have our nuts chopped off.


-charge to exercise a right
-fingerprint all gun owners and treat us like criminals
-unrestricted abortion (up until birth)
-cut our nuts off


HONK HONK!!!! Its the democrat way


BTW, she voted for SB1966

y3st2ZM.jpg

 

 

She's welcomed to come and try to cut mine off.....



#30 InterestedBystander

    Member

  • Supporting Members Team
  • 6,599 posts
  • Joined: 15-March 13

Posted 30 May 2019 - 01:12 PM

Senate Witness slips. http://my.ilga.gov/H..._=1559243400077

Edited by InterestedBystander, 30 May 2019 - 01:23 PM.

NRA Life Member
ISRA Member
FFL-IL Supporter
SAF Member
GOA Member
🇺🇸




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users