leadchucker Posted January 10, 2017 at 09:45 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 09:45 PM Just spoke to Hi Point Corporate. Hi Point pistols now fall under the banned list of firearms not legal to sell. "Saturday Night Special" law, because of melting point temp of some of pistol components. They're not illegal to own but you cannot buy from FFL. The carbines are not affected.
Trevis Posted January 10, 2017 at 09:45 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 09:45 PM Woah, any reference on this?
WARFACE Posted January 10, 2017 at 09:48 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 09:48 PM Yeah we need some proof of this. What are dealers that have them in their inventory supposed to do with them? Something doesn't pass the smell test here.
MagSlap Posted January 10, 2017 at 09:49 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 09:49 PM Woah, any reference on this? (720 ILCS 5/24‑3)"(h) While holding any license as a dealer, importer,manufacturer or pawnbroker under the federal Gun Control Act of 1968, manufactures, sells or delivers to any unlicensed person a handgun having a barrel, slide, frame or receiver which is a die casting of zinc alloy or any other nonhomogeneous metal which will melt or deform at a temperature of less than 800 degrees Fahrenheit. For purposes of this paragraph, (1) "firearm" is defined as in the Firearm Owners Identification Card Act; and (2) "handgun" is defined as a firearm designed to be held and fired by the use of a single hand, and includes a combination of parts from which such a firearm can be assembled. " can be referenced at http://www.ilga.gov/...=072000050K24-3 Found in an earlier discussion here:http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19407
InterestedBystander Posted January 10, 2017 at 09:56 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 09:56 PM IIRC, we have had other forum discussions on the topic in addition to the one linked above. There are a number of other firearms that fall in this category, yet you can (or at least could prviously) still find them on the shelves of many FFLs. Do they not know? Care? Is it a law that is simply ignored? ETA I seem to recall a bill last year that tried changing that law but dont know what happened to it From Feb bill watch thread Synopsis As IntroducedAmends the Criminal Code of 2012. Deletes provision that the offense of unlawful sale or delivery of firearms includes the manufacture, sale, or delivery by a holder of a license as a dealer, importer, manufacturer, or pawnbroker under the federal Gun Control Act of 1968 to any unlicensed person a handgun having a barrel, slide, frame, or receiver which is a die casting of zinc alloy or any other nonhomogeneous metal which will melt or deform at a temperature of less than 800 degrees Fahrenheit. Effective immediately. House SponsorsRep. Reginald Phillips
leadchucker Posted January 10, 2017 at 09:57 PM Author Posted January 10, 2017 at 09:57 PM Before I posted I verified with Hi Point corporate.
quackersmacker Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:00 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:00 PM Why stir this up? Nobody cared........until now.
WARFACE Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:00 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:00 PM By Golly it's true. Certain parts are made of ZAMAK and they don't comply with Ill law. I bet Tupperware guns melt before ZAMAK does.
Talonap Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:01 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:01 PM I really don't think this is anything new. Did they just pass something additional?
WARFACE Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:01 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:01 PM Why stir this up? Nobody cared........until now.$ Cause I had been wanting a HiPoint for my collection$
WARFACE Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:02 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:02 PM I really don't think this is anything new.Slow news day Talonap
Jeffrey Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:02 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:02 PM I really don't think this is anything new.+1 My 380 is the best 70 dollar gun I ever bought.
mauserme Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:07 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:07 PM Just spoke to Hi Point Corporate. Hi Point pistols now fall under the banned list of firearms not legal to sell. "Saturday Night Special" law, because of melting point temp of some of pistol components. They're not illegal to own but you cannot buy from FFL. The carbines are not affected. The law hasn't changed. Unless Hi Point changed their alloy they either always were illegal for licensees to sell, or they still are not.
spanishjames Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:08 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:08 PM I've seen HiPoint pistols in stores recently, so what gives?
wtr100 Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:24 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:24 PM I've seen HiPoint pistols in stores recently, so what gives? what if there was a law and nobody really cared
tkroenlein Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:26 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:26 PM Nuke the whole thing. ETA: Please. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
OldMarineVet Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:36 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:36 PM I found this topic interesting. Never heard of a Hi Point firearm before. Now if somebody gives me a "good deal" on a Hi Point, I'll know better.
WARFACE Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:50 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 10:50 PM I found this topic interesting. Never heard of a Hi Point firearm before. Now if somebody gives me a "good deal" on a Hi Point, I'll know better.NO such thing as a good deal on a Hi Point unless they give it to you and throw in some cash for you to take it.
DD123 Posted January 10, 2017 at 11:07 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 11:07 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWKBP961C90
Blade13 Posted January 10, 2017 at 11:07 PM Posted January 10, 2017 at 11:07 PM Have see6n Hi-Points still for sale at several local gun stores lately. I just don't buy this story.
C0untZer0 Posted January 11, 2017 at 12:36 AM Posted January 11, 2017 at 12:36 AM I've seen Hi-Points in local gun stores, and I wanted one...
Glock23 Posted January 11, 2017 at 12:46 AM Posted January 11, 2017 at 12:46 AM I've seen Hi-Points in local gun stores, and I wanted one... Admitting you have a problem is the first step.
Blade13 Posted January 11, 2017 at 12:49 AM Posted January 11, 2017 at 12:49 AM I've seen Hi-Points in local gun stores, and I wanted one... Admitting you have a problem is the first step. He just wants one. I actually have one and like it.
Draal Posted January 11, 2017 at 01:11 AM Posted January 11, 2017 at 01:11 AM I'm more interested in their Planet of the Apes carbines.
gLockedandLoaded Posted January 11, 2017 at 01:18 AM Posted January 11, 2017 at 01:18 AM I've considered one of the carbines but then I saw they won't ship the high cap mags to Illinois at all...so not giving them my business.
Talonap Posted January 11, 2017 at 01:27 AM Posted January 11, 2017 at 01:27 AM I'm more interested in their Planet of the Apes carbines. Not if you're in Cook County ...
Jeffrey Posted January 11, 2017 at 02:47 AM Posted January 11, 2017 at 02:47 AM I've seen Hi-Points in local gun stores, and I wanted one... Admitting you have a problem is the first step. He just wants one. I actually have one and like it.I've said more times than I could count, don't knock it til you've tried it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
OldMarineVet Posted January 11, 2017 at 03:52 AM Posted January 11, 2017 at 03:52 AM I found this topic interesting. Never heard of a Hi Point firearm before. Now if somebody gives me a "good deal" on a Hi Point, I'll know better.NO such thing as a good deal on a Hi Point unless they give it to you and throw in some cash for you to take it. Yes! I know that now that I read this thread. Thanks
tnertb Posted January 11, 2017 at 04:42 AM Posted January 11, 2017 at 04:42 AM I've considered one of the carbines but then I saw they won't ship the high cap mags to Illinois at all...so not giving them my business.Having had a carbine with the extended donkey d**k magazine you weren't missing anything.
evilcat Posted January 11, 2017 at 05:41 AM Posted January 11, 2017 at 05:41 AM Hipoint is just trying to get on the BAN wagon, in hopes that someone will actually buy their stuff. 4 years too late
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