Chicago to stop using controversial ShotSpotter technology, and parent company’s stock tumbles

[davel501]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/chicago-to-stop-using-controversial-shotspotter-technology-and-parent-company-s-stock-tumbles/ar-BB1ieqni?ocid=emmx-mmx-feeds&PC=EMMX01

 

I can haz suppressors now? 

[Odinson]

I'd like to hear from the CPD on this. I can't believe this tech doesn't help them do their job better.

[RECarry]

I heard a clip on Dan Proft where a CPD official stated that early arrival of police on the scene of gunfire led to 150 life-saving measures (e.g. tourniquets).

[Jeffrey]

I wonder how many shares mayor BJ sold off prior to the announcement?

[davel501]

On 2/14/2024 at 7:52 AM, Jeffrey said:

I wonder how many shares mayor BJ sold off prior to the announcement?

 

I wonder what the short activity on that stock looked like leading up to the announcement. 

[StuckInIllinois]

On 2/14/2024 at 6:54 AM, Odinson said:

I'd like to hear from the CPD on this. I can't believe this tech doesn't help them do their job better.

https://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

[Quiet Observer]

I would think that the stock of anything that Chicago rejects would skyrocket. 

 

One of the big problems is that it is racist. 

"First, as the MacArthur Justice Center details, ShotSpotter is deployed overwhelmingly in communities of color, which already disproportionately bear the brunt of a heavy police presence. The police say they pick neighborhoods for deployment based on where the most shootings are, but there are several problems with that:  . . ." 

Four Problems with the ShotSpotter Gunshot Detection System | ACLU

 

Apparently, it would be better to place the ShotSpotters in downstate corn and soybean fields. 

Why would you want police where the crime is?

[Tip]

On 2/14/2024 at 9:58 AM, Quiet Observer said:

Apparently, it would be better to place the ShotSpotters in downstate corn and soybean fields. 

Well cricky! Down around my way in rural Southern Illinois (surrounded by corn and soybean fields) it’d be going off every darn day!!! 🤣

[davel501]

I'm wondering if they will file notice of this in Morse v Raoul (IL Suppressor Ban) because it takes out the public good argument that the 7th circuit will want to use to affirm the IL law.

[BobPistol]

On 2/14/2024 at 9:19 AM, davel501 said:

I'm wondering if they will file notice of this in Morse v Raoul (IL Suppressor Ban) because it takes out the public good argument that the 7th circuit will want to use to affirm the IL law.

 

Is there way to file an amicus brief?

[Odinson]

On 2/14/2024 at 9:37 AM, StuckInIllinois said:

https://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

Thanks SIL, scathing commentary and pretty sad. I heard an interesting caller this morning on the radio. He talked about how socialism snuck up on the world around WW2 and now, with social media and sites like this, we very clearly see it coming but are not doing anything about it.

[Jeffrey]

On 2/14/2024 at 12:58 PM, Odinson said:

Thanks SIL, scathing commentary and pretty sad. I heard an interesting caller this morning on the radio. He talked about how socialism snuck up on the world around WW2 and now, with social media and sites like this, we very clearly see it coming but are not doing anything about it.

I can't recall who I heard say something similar recently but they were comparing us to France and similar EU countries.  They went on how far we have come just in the last few years all due to the woke bull **** we now put up with.  No one wants to go to work but instead live off .gov teets.  Everyone wants everything with nothing in return.  I believe if the founders were alive today, guns would already be cold due to them handling the idiocy a long time ago.

[davel501]

On 2/14/2024 at 1:42 PM, Jeffrey said:

I can't recall who I heard say something similar recently but they were comparing us to France and similar EU countries.  They went on how far we have come just in the last few years all due to the woke bull **** we now put up with.  No one wants to go to work but instead live off .gov teets.  Everyone wants everything with nothing in return.  I believe if the founders were alive today, guns would already be cold due to them handling the idiocy a long time ago.

 

I believe they would have been against this kind of mass surveillance. They would have demanded that the people from these neighborhoods step up and not tolerate this garbage. They believed in the right to self defense so I doubt "it's dangerous to speak out" would have carried much weight with them.

[Euler]

NBC Chicago is reporting that ShotSpotter has rejected Chicago's request for a 6-month extension to the contract until after the DNC convention in August.

I guess that's what happens when you make a public statement about dropping a contract. The other party decides not to cut you any slack.

Apparently the contract ends later this month.

[Euler]

Chicago SunTimes said:→

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Mayor Brandon Johnson's office hammered out a renewal to the nearly $49 million contract with ShotSpotter's parent company, SoundThinking, to allow the police department to continue using the technology through Sept. 22, according to statements from the company and mayor's office. The agreement also includes a two-month "transition period" after that date.
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[davel501]

On 2/19/2024 at 10:15 PM, Euler said:

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Mayor Brandon Johnson's office hammered out a renewal to the nearly $49 million contract with ShotSpotter's parent company, SoundThinking, to allow the police department to continue using the technology through Sept. 22, according to statements from the company and mayor's office. The agreement also includes a two-month "transition period" after that date.
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$49 million for 6 months? He must be the best negotiator ever. I'm going to just leave this here:

 

Quote

While Brandon Johnson was vowing on the campaign trail to end the city’s contract with ShotSpotter, Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s administration had already quietly extended the city’s multimillion-dollar contract to use the controversial gunshot detection software. The city’s initial three-year, $33 million contract with California-based ShotSpotter started in August 2018 and was extended for two more years in December 2020 without public notice and long before the initial deal was slated to end. Records show the contract was set to expire Aug. 19, but a ShotSpotter spokesperson said it was extended in October and will remain in effect until at least Feb. 16

 

Controversial ShotSpotter Brandon Johnson has vowed to cancel was already renewed - Chicago Sun-Times (suntimes.com)