Dumak_from_arfcom Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:39 AM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 05:39 AM IIdleburg sucks... the moms got him elected. On 1/11/2023 at 9:45 PM, springfield shooter said: Map of the 2022 gubernatorial election, by county. Not a lot of blue there. Lake County was once a nice place. Before the dark times... before the Karens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPD#127 Posted January 12, 2023 at 08:36 AM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 08:36 AM Its great to see all the Sheriff's Department and States Attorneys Offices state their opposition to this Bill/Act. I work nights so I didn't see this until I came in tonight. I know that there will be more as the days go on. I work in one of the counties listed as in opposition. in east central Illinois. This February I will have 21 years of full time Policing under my belt. I can assure you there are more municipal LE agencies and individual Officers in opposition to this than you think. I'm not just saying that. I know the Illinois FOP emailed an alert when this all started. Most Chiefs will not make statements, but I urge you to contact yours and have a chat. My only fear is something that stemmed from the Illinois SAFE T Act passed in 2021. For those who don't know the Act made training requirements mandatory for every Officer in the state. Those are broken down for yearly, every three year, and every 5 year increments. I don't have access to the website, but my admin does. The website lists the individual Officers name and information. Once an accredited class is completed the ILETSB places a green check by that requirement. Example every year I have to watch a video on the Illinois Firearms Restraining Act. Red Flag law for Illinois. The video explains the Act and my responsibilities and when completed I get a certificate of completion. I then get a green check for that requirement. If at the end of the year, 3 years, or 5 years I didn't complete something I could be suspended. The state wanted to create a license for Police Officers, Sheriffs Deputies, and State Patrol Officers. They argued a beautician needed a license why not a Police Officer. I don't necessarily have an issue with a license, but a license issued by the state could be revoked by the state similar to the FOID. I know there is a difference as there is no right to be a Police Officer. Hopefully you get the point I am trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Duke Posted January 12, 2023 at 10:45 AM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 10:45 AM I hope Macon County joins the list of sheriffs who support the constitution. Macon county is on the map as a 2nd Amendment sanctuary county. I worry if that is still accurate. There have been a few elections since that map was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 12, 2023 at 12:24 PM Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 12:24 PM On 1/12/2023 at 2:36 AM, CPD#127 said: Its great to see all the Sheriff's Department and States Attorneys Offices state their opposition to this Bill/Act. I work nights so I didn't see this until I came in tonight. I know that there will be more as the days go on. I work in one of the counties listed as in opposition. in east central Illinois. This February I will have 21 years of full time Policing under my belt. I can assure you there are more municipal LE agencies and individual Officers in opposition to this than you think. I'm not just saying that. I know the Illinois FOP emailed an alert when this all started. Most Chiefs will not make statements, but I urge you to contact yours and have a chat. My only fear is something that stemmed from the Illinois SAFE T Act passed in 2021. For those who don't know the Act made training requirements mandatory for every Officer in the state. Those are broken down for yearly, every three year, and every 5 year increments. I don't have access to the website, but my admin does. The website lists the individual Officers name and information. Once an accredited class is completed the ILETSB places a green check by that requirement. Example every year I have to watch a video on the Illinois Firearms Restraining Act. Red Flag law for Illinois. The video explains the Act and my responsibilities and when completed I get a certificate of completion. I then get a green check for that requirement. If at the end of the year, 3 years, or 5 years I didn't complete something I could be suspended. The state wanted to create a license for Police Officers, Sheriffs Deputies, and State Patrol Officers. They argued a beautician needed a license why not a Police Officer. I don't necessarily have an issue with a license, but a license issued by the state could be revoked by the state similar to the FOID. I know there is a difference as there is no right to be a Police Officer. Hopefully you get the point I am trying to make. Thank you for this input. Really sick to see that the state really wants LE to attack average Joe’s like this (the red flag stuff) and that they’re keeping track of you. Regarding the last paragraph, is this something that potentially the FOP can Sue over do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPD#127 Posted January 12, 2023 at 12:55 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 12:55 PM I have no idea about Illinois FOP suing. I have not heard anything yet. I’m not an active follower of them. I should be. Now if someone would be fired or financially harmed I would think they would act in some manner. Honestly I don’t think they have that much power. Otherwise the SAFE T Act wouldn’t have passed or been as bad. I could be totally wrong. It’s happened before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundguy Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:01 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:01 PM On 1/12/2023 at 6:55 AM, CPD#127 said: Now if someone would be fired or financially harmed... Conscientious objectors. Cheers, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpdesk9 Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:02 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:02 PM On 1/12/2023 at 6:24 AM, steveTA84 said: Thank you for this input. Really sick to see that the state really wants LE to attack average Joe’s like this (the red flag stuff) and that they’re keeping track of you. Regarding the last paragraph, is this something that potentially the FOP can Sue over do you think? Sangamon County has been confirmed, it dropped about 30mins ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:04 PM Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:04 PM On 1/12/2023 at 7:02 AM, Helpdesk9 said: Sangamon County has been confirmed, it dropped about 30mins ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpdesk9 Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:06 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:06 PM On 1/12/2023 at 6:55 AM, CPD#127 said: I have no idea about Illinois FOP suing. I have not heard anything yet. I’m not an active follower of them. I should be. Now if someone would be fired or financially harmed I would think they would act in some manner. Honestly I don’t think they have that much power. Otherwise the SAFE T Act wouldn’t have passed or been as bad. I could be totally wrong. It’s happened before I saw an article yesterday about they might be suing over the safe-t act with the passing of that union constitutional amendment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:13 PM Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:13 PM (edited) On 1/12/2023 at 7:02 AM, Helpdesk9 said: Sangamon County has been confirmed, it dropped about 30mins ago Edited January 12, 2023 at 01:14 PM by steveTA84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:15 PM Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:15 PM McHenry County Sheriff actually released his statement on Twitter too LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:50 PM Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:50 PM Instagram too 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molly B. Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:54 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:54 PM On 1/11/2023 at 11:15 PM, steveTA84 said: It’s on Twitter (person making map). Also, article in OP is being updated frequently and has all the statements Do you have a twitter link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:59 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 01:59 PM On 1/12/2023 at 2:36 AM, CPD#127 said: Its great to see all the Sheriff's Department and States Attorneys Offices state their opposition to this Bill/Act. I work nights so I didn't see this until I came in tonight. I know that there will be more as the days go on. I work in one of the counties listed as in opposition. in east central Illinois. This February I will have 21 years of full time Policing under my belt. I can assure you there are more municipal LE agencies and individual Officers in opposition to this than you think. I'm not just saying that. I know the Illinois FOP emailed an alert when this all started. Most Chiefs will not make statements, but I urge you to contact yours and have a chat. My only fear is something that stemmed from the Illinois SAFE T Act passed in 2021. For those who don't know the Act made training requirements mandatory for every Officer in the state. Those are broken down for yearly, every three year, and every 5 year increments. I don't have access to the website, but my admin does. The website lists the individual Officers name and information. Once an accredited class is completed the ILETSB places a green check by that requirement. Example every year I have to watch a video on the Illinois Firearms Restraining Act. Red Flag law for Illinois. The video explains the Act and my responsibilities and when completed I get a certificate of completion. I then get a green check for that requirement. If at the end of the year, 3 years, or 5 years I didn't complete something I could be suspended. The state wanted to create a license for Police Officers, Sheriffs Deputies, and State Patrol Officers. They argued a beautician needed a license why not a Police Officer. I don't necessarily have an issue with a license, but a license issued by the state could be revoked by the state similar to the FOID. I know there is a difference as there is no right to be a Police Officer. Hopefully you get the point I am trying to make. My understanding of the license issue is there is a perception that LEOs are getting fired or quit one department under duress but then get a job with another department. The Left wants to license LEOs so that if you get fired your license is suspended preventing you from getting a job at another dept. IMHO it is a solution in search of a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSDlady Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:02 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:02 PM DeKalb County Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alostmonkey Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:07 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:07 PM Not my image. Missing Montgomery and Clark. 69 out of 102 counties have taken a stand so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpdesk9 Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:10 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:10 PM On 1/12/2023 at 4:45 AM, Dr Duke said: I hope Macon County joins the list of sheriffs who support the constitution. Macon county is on the map as a 2nd Amendment sanctuary county. I worry if that is still accurate. There have been a few elections since that map was made. Despite there being a small population of Marxists living August-May, it's pretty conservative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:40 PM Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:40 PM On 1/12/2023 at 7:54 AM, Molly B. said: Do you have a twitter link? This account (not linking due to profanity pictured in linked above tweet that shows up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jeff Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:50 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:50 PM Kendall needs to get on the band wagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:53 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:53 PM On 1/12/2023 at 8:50 AM, Chef Jeff said: Kendall needs to get on the band wagon. Kinda surprised they aren't. I'll be here twiddling thumbs in Dupage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzimike66 Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:55 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:55 PM On 1/12/2023 at 8:50 AM, Chef Jeff said: Kendall needs to get on the band wagon. Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANDY Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:55 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:55 PM I am surprised Effingham hasn't responded yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveTA84 Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:56 PM Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 02:56 PM This is gonna get ugly. Someone else that is a brilliant fighter in the 2A world explained why JB is so smug about targeting LE that won’t enforce. Look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:04 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:04 PM On 1/12/2023 at 2:36 AM, CPD#127 said: Its great to see all the Sheriff's Department and States Attorneys Offices state their opposition to this Bill/Act. I work nights so I didn't see this until I came in tonight. I know that there will be more as the days go on. I work in one of the counties listed as in opposition. in east central Illinois. This February I will have 21 years of full time Policing under my belt. I can assure you there are more municipal LE agencies and individual Officers in opposition to this than you think. I'm not just saying that. I know the Illinois FOP emailed an alert when this all started. Most Chiefs will not make statements, but I urge you to contact yours and have a chat. My only fear is something that stemmed from the Illinois SAFE T Act passed in 2021. For those who don't know the Act made training requirements mandatory for every Officer in the state. Those are broken down for yearly, every three year, and every 5 year increments. I don't have access to the website, but my admin does. The website lists the individual Officers name and information. Once an accredited class is completed the ILETSB places a green check by that requirement. Example every year I have to watch a video on the Illinois Firearms Restraining Act. Red Flag law for Illinois. The video explains the Act and my responsibilities and when completed I get a certificate of completion. I then get a green check for that requirement. If at the end of the year, 3 years, or 5 years I didn't complete something I could be suspended. The state wanted to create a license for Police Officers, Sheriffs Deputies, and State Patrol Officers. They argued a beautician needed a license why not a Police Officer. I don't necessarily have an issue with a license, but a license issued by the state could be revoked by the state similar to the FOID. I know there is a difference as there is no right to be a Police Officer. Hopefully you get the point I am trying to make. Hang in there. Tough times are ahead for certain, but how people stand now is what matters. Your Oath matters. We anticipate an injunction to give everyone some breathing room, but the anti-rights extremists think they have momentum - as well as their supermajority.in the ILGA. ILETSB will likely be tapped by Pritzger to arm twist those in opposition (see separate post on that). Stay salty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedbump Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:10 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:10 PM On 1/12/2023 at 8:55 AM, RANDY said: I am surprised Effingham hasn't responded yet They will, probably later today, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:19 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 03:19 PM (edited) This is the statement from Sheriff Watkins from Peoria County: “As the Sheriff of Peoria County, I oppose the legislative bill that was recently passed banning law-abiding citizens from buying certain types of firearms. This is another example of Chicago policy being pushed downstate on responsible gun owners. This bill does not solve the root cause of the problem. The real focus should be on the Mental Health Crisis that’s plaguing our communities that I see increasing every day in Peoria County.” McLean County Sheriff Matt Lane said the following: “The right to keep and bear arms for defense of life, liberty and property is regarded as an inalienable right of the people. If the intent of the legislative branch of this state is to change the U.S. Constitution, there is a process that was created long ago to accomplish such a change. Changing Illinois law in what I believe is total conflict with the U.S. Constitution is not how it is done. As your sheriff I will continue to defend all of your rights under the Constitution.” From the WEEK TV. Edited January 12, 2023 at 03:20 PM by spec5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yurimodin Posted January 12, 2023 at 06:32 PM Share Posted January 12, 2023 at 06:32 PM On 1/12/2023 at 2:36 AM, CPD#127 said: Its great to see all the Sheriff's Department and States Attorneys Offices state their opposition to this Bill/Act. I work nights so I didn't see this until I came in tonight. I know that there will be more as the days go on. I work in one of the counties listed as in opposition. in east central Illinois. This February I will have 21 years of full time Policing under my belt. I can assure you there are more municipal LE agencies and individual Officers in opposition to this than you think. I'm not just saying that. I know the Illinois FOP emailed an alert when this all started. Most Chiefs will not make statements, but I urge you to contact yours and have a chat. My only fear is something that stemmed from the Illinois SAFE T Act passed in 2021. For those who don't know the Act made training requirements mandatory for every Officer in the state. Those are broken down for yearly, every three year, and every 5 year increments. I don't have access to the website, but my admin does. The website lists the individual Officers name and information. Once an accredited class is completed the ILETSB places a green check by that requirement. Example every year I have to watch a video on the Illinois Firearms Restraining Act. Red Flag law for Illinois. The video explains the Act and my responsibilities and when completed I get a certificate of completion. I then get a green check for that requirement. If at the end of the year, 3 years, or 5 years I didn't complete something I could be suspended. The state wanted to create a license for Police Officers, Sheriffs Deputies, and State Patrol Officers. They argued a beautician needed a license why not a Police Officer. I don't necessarily have an issue with a license, but a license issued by the state could be revoked by the state similar to the FOID. I know there is a difference as there is no right to be a Police Officer. Hopefully you get the point I am trying to make. Like most things in bureaucracy you just tell them what they want to hear and then move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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