Flynn Posted April 27, 2022 at 10:28 PM Share Posted April 27, 2022 at 10:28 PM If he and his group doesn't outright condemn his own fathers actions over the bump stock ban, I will lump him into the "Pro 2nd Right" in name only groups that are all too willing to compromise away the right and just use the claim of being Pro 2nd for attention. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/donald-trump-jr-launches-gun-rights-group-vows-fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted April 27, 2022 at 11:34 PM Share Posted April 27, 2022 at 11:34 PM (edited) Luckily, the Vegas shooter used a bumpstock. If he hadn't and was even a marginally-competent marksman, he would have shot and killed hundreds of people during all that time he had before the cops got to him. Edit to add: Let's give him a chance (without expecting him to condemn his own father, the best president this country ever had) before judging his group's actions. We need to stick together. That's why the Left always wins -- they're a hive mind that acts in unison. Republicans and other Conservatives eat their own. And we don't taste like chicken. Edited April 27, 2022 at 11:38 PM by 2A4Cook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted April 27, 2022 at 11:37 PM Share Posted April 27, 2022 at 11:37 PM Wasn't a similar group formed under President Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipp Jones Posted April 28, 2022 at 01:06 AM Share Posted April 28, 2022 at 01:06 AM On 4/27/2022 at 5:28 PM, Flynn said: If he and his group doesn't outright condemn his own fathers actions over the bump stock ban, I will lump him into the "Pro 2nd Right" in name only groups that are all too willing to compromise away the right and just use the claim of being Pro 2nd for attention. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/donald-trump-jr-launches-gun-rights-group-vows-fight Your expectation is unreasonable. Do you really expect him to condemn his own father publicly? He will not do that, I can assure you of that. You are essentially giving him an ultimatum and we all know how that goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted April 28, 2022 at 03:02 AM Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 at 03:02 AM (edited) On 4/27/2022 at 8:06 PM, Kipp Jones said: Your expectation is unreasonable. Do you really expect him to condemn his own father publicly? He will not do that, I can assure you of that. You are essentially giving him an ultimatum and we all know how that goes. I beg to differ, I don't consider it unreasonable for me to choose to support or not support an organization based their actions and policies. There has been a rumor for a long time that he was the one that pushed his dad to be pro-2nd, so they don't exactly see eye to eye and let's not forget the elephant in the room, this is a deja vu flashback to 2016, when he claimed to be doing the same thing, so Im far from convinced he is serious, thus my ultimatum. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/06/donald-trump-jr-gun-rights-coalition-chris-cox-theresa-vail https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/29/what-ever-happened-president-trumps-gun-advisory-group/99176736/ Edited April 28, 2022 at 03:03 AM by Flynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted April 28, 2022 at 03:24 AM Share Posted April 28, 2022 at 03:24 AM According to a lefty website Donald Trump Senior carried at the time and supports personal carry and would sign national reciprocity if it made it to his desk. Might want to cut him some slack. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-carries-gun-lot/story?id=34810932 https://www.newsweek.com/what-national-concealed-carry-reciprocity-563075 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted April 28, 2022 at 03:47 AM Author Share Posted April 28, 2022 at 03:47 AM On 4/27/2022 at 6:37 PM, mauserme said: Wasn't a similar group formed under President Trump? Yes, they did the same thing in 2016 and it basically accounted for nothing, thus my reluctance to take part two serious, especially during an election cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipp Jones Posted April 28, 2022 at 12:39 PM Share Posted April 28, 2022 at 12:39 PM On 4/27/2022 at 10:02 PM, Flynn said: I beg to differ, I don't consider it unreasonable for me to choose to support or not support an organization based their actions and policies. There has been a rumor for a long time that he was the one that pushed his dad to be pro-2nd, so they don't exactly see eye to eye and let's not forget the elephant in the room, this is a deja vu flashback to 2016, when he claimed to be doing the same thing, so Im far from convinced he is serious, thus my ultimatum. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/06/donald-trump-jr-gun-rights-coalition-chris-cox-theresa-vail https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/29/what-ever-happened-president-trumps-gun-advisory-group/99176736/ Please reread my post as I said your expectation that he will condemn his father publicly is not realistic. That will not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2A4Cook Posted April 28, 2022 at 01:20 PM Share Posted April 28, 2022 at 01:20 PM On 4/28/2022 at 7:39 AM, Kipp Jones said: Please reread my post as I said your expectation that he will condemn his father publicly is not realistic. That will not happen. Flynn is a tough sell! 🤡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted April 28, 2022 at 01:25 PM Share Posted April 28, 2022 at 01:25 PM He could condemn the action without also condemning Sr. Just give your mission statement being that any new law taking guns/parts out of hands of law abiding citizens they'd oppose. Searching around most forums including this one, most are not in deep favor of NRA or ISRA related to us. We need a new dog in the fight and based on previous experience I strongly believe Jr. has all of our best interest. To write off this new group over something that had nothing to do with any of them would be a mistake and missed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbacs Posted April 28, 2022 at 01:55 PM Share Posted April 28, 2022 at 01:55 PM Any organization which claims pro 2a positions and don’t want to immediately capitulate to the thoughts and wants of someone gets an F grade. Almost like they are posting a no guns sign outside their Corp headquarters! We can not and will not support anyone unless they do it MMMMYYYY Way! /S Purple monster not working this am! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted April 28, 2022 at 01:58 PM Share Posted April 28, 2022 at 01:58 PM On 4/28/2022 at 8:55 AM, Bubbacs said: Any organization which claims pro 2a positions and don’t want to immediately capitulate to the thoughts and wants of someone gets an F grade. Almost like they are posting a no guns sign outside their Corp headquarters! We can not and will not support anyone unless they do it MMMMYYYY Way! /S Purple monster not working this am! Demand everything seems to be the way to get noticed lately. Although the end result might not always be what you hoped for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauserme Posted May 2, 2022 at 05:33 PM Share Posted May 2, 2022 at 05:33 PM A couple off topic posts have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilguy Posted May 3, 2022 at 09:36 PM Share Posted May 3, 2022 at 09:36 PM I will let others test that water. I voted for Trump twice because he was not the other gal/guy. I was under no illusion he was an A+ gun advocate. They didn’t ban bump stocks under Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starwatcher Posted May 9, 2022 at 03:51 PM Share Posted May 9, 2022 at 03:51 PM He saw what the Wayne was doing and wants a piece of that pie for himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BennyDR Posted May 9, 2022 at 09:55 PM Share Posted May 9, 2022 at 09:55 PM the first thing their group should look into are bump stocks....oh wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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