Trevis Posted March 2, 2015 at 11:47 PM Share Posted March 2, 2015 at 11:47 PM (edited) I sometimes work at my friends liquor store so what is the law with that.Reason I'm asking I asked few local cops and they would say Ya sure as long as you got the concealed you are good.Then again they could be saying that then the second I carry slap a case on me ?I've not seen liquor stores posted, generally. The liquor license for just selling is different from serving, and I would think they would have been informed by now if they were required to post. You can't knowingly carry if it's not specifically named in the law, or not posted. If you have permission from the owner, you could carry in FOID only days, as well, since it's a fixed place of business. Edited March 2, 2015 at 11:47 PM by Trevis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occmikey Posted March 3, 2015 at 05:15 AM Share Posted March 3, 2015 at 05:15 AM I sometimes work at my friends liquor store so what is the law with that.Reason I'm asking I asked few local cops and they would say Ya sure as long as you got the concealed you are good.Then again they could be saying that then the second I carry slap a case on me ?I've not seen liquor stores posted, generally. The liquor license for just selling is different from serving, and I would think they would have been informed by now if they were required to post. You can't knowingly carry if it's not specifically named in the law, or not posted.If you have permission from the owner, you could carry in FOID only days, as well, since it's a fixed place of business.Tbh I use to carry before as you said during the foid days but now that I have my concealed carry Im unsure.As I said I spoke to few cpd they said Ya sure as long as you got the ccw you can carry here.Then again as I said they could say one thing pop up check me and make an example out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkroenlein Posted March 3, 2015 at 05:23 AM Share Posted March 3, 2015 at 05:23 AM There is NO prohibition on liquor stores. (9) Any building, real property, and parking area under the control of an establishment that serves alcohol on its premises, if more than 50% of the establishment's gross receipts within the prior 3 months is from the sale of alcohol. The owner of an establishment who knowingly fails to prohibit concealed firearms on its premises as provided in this paragraph or who knowingly makes a false statement or record to avoid the prohibition on concealed firearms under this paragraph is subject to the penalty under subsection (c-5) of Section 10-1 of the Liquor Control Act of 1934. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firepiper Posted March 3, 2015 at 02:21 PM Share Posted March 3, 2015 at 02:21 PM The liquor store confusion stems from Chicago requiring ANYONE with a liquor license to post...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevis Posted March 19, 2015 at 02:28 PM Share Posted March 19, 2015 at 02:28 PM Ok, I found something interesting about post office parking areas... http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/11/us/guns-post-office/ What's this mean for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spec5 Posted March 19, 2015 at 02:31 PM Share Posted March 19, 2015 at 02:31 PM (edited) Ok, I found something interesting about post office parking areas...http://www.cnn.com/2013/07/11/us/guns-post-office/What's this mean for us?This has been covered before. It only refers to Bonidy and no one else.The attached threads were locked for a reason. http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=48137&hl=bonidy&do=findComment&comment=728516 http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=48587&hl=bonidyhttp://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=48050&hl=bonidy&do=findComment&comment=725798 Edited March 19, 2015 at 02:38 PM by spec5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmant3s Posted April 1, 2015 at 01:53 PM Share Posted April 1, 2015 at 01:53 PM I have a question for the group. A freind of mine has a company in Franklin Park. Their work force is prodomenatly Hispanic. They are having a hard time getting workers because they [company] runs a criminal back ground check for all new hires. Most of these men can't pass the back ground checks. Since they have all these "ex-cons" (for lack of a better term) coming in to fill out applications they put the sticker on the front door (insane right) so if any of the job searchers might have a gun on them they will leave it in the car. BUT being the conservitive that he is, he wants to get his CCL. He thinks that since he owns the property he exempt from this and will be able to carry on the premissis. What do you all think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyGuy Posted April 1, 2015 at 02:09 PM Share Posted April 1, 2015 at 02:09 PM (edited) nm Edited April 1, 2015 at 02:11 PM by TyGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaystrm Posted April 1, 2015 at 02:14 PM Share Posted April 1, 2015 at 02:14 PM If he owns the property, HE doesn't need an FCCL to carry on the property. That being said, if he has posted to stop "ex-cons" who "can't pass a background check" from bringing their guns in, I would probably point out to him that they will also be unable to obtain the FCCL, and that it is NO MORE ILLEGAL for them to carry their firearms past the sign than if it didn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmant3s Posted April 1, 2015 at 07:30 PM Share Posted April 1, 2015 at 07:30 PM I guess I didn't explain it correctly.A person owns a business. That person puts an Illinois State approved "no firearm" sticker on the doors, making the building a legal compliant "gun free zone". Does the owner of the business have the right to carry a firearm in that business? If the business is "posted", who has the right to carry in said business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted April 1, 2015 at 07:48 PM Share Posted April 1, 2015 at 07:48 PM (edited) I guess I didn't explain it correctly. A person owns a business. That person puts an Illinois State approved "no firearm" sticker on the doors, making the building a legal compliant "gun free zone". Does the owner of the business have the right to carry a firearm in that business? If the business is "posted", who has the right to carry in said business? The sign is driven by the FCCA. A business owner is allowed to carry outside the scope of the FCCA by following the (Aggravated) Unlawful Use of Weapons exemptions--which existed long before the FCCA was published. So the owner isn't carrying pursuant to 430 ILCS 66/65, which is cited on the sign, and is therefore still compliant with the law. Edited April 1, 2015 at 07:49 PM by kwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmant3s Posted April 1, 2015 at 08:04 PM Share Posted April 1, 2015 at 08:04 PM I guess I didn't explain it correctly.A person owns a business. That person puts an Illinois State approved "no firearm" sticker on the doors, making the building a legal compliant "gun free zone". Does the owner of the business have the right to carry a firearm in that business? If the business is "posted", who has the right to carry in said business?The sign is driven by the FCCA. A business owner is allowed to carry outside the scope of the FCCA by following the (Aggravated) Unlawful Use of Weapons exemptions--which existed long before the FCCA was published. So the owner isn't carrying pursuant to 430 ILCS 66/65, which is cited on the sign, and is therefore still compliant with the law. Thank you, that sounds good. I was telling one of his employees that he needs to take that sign down if he wanted to carry, so I was mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe Posted April 5, 2015 at 03:15 AM Share Posted April 5, 2015 at 03:15 AM Winnebago County Forest Preserves question (again)...I've read through this thread for clarification. I have a preserve with a public bike path that is paved and runs briefly though the preserve. I'm pretty sure that I'm ok riding on that with the family and carrying. This same preserve has walking/bike paths (dirt), a camp ground and a playground. At first, I thought I might be ok carrying as long as I avoided the playground and stayed on the paths, but I'm not convinced. http://winnebagoforest.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/OrdinancesGeneralUseReg.pdf The Winn Forest Preserve states on page 7:Pg 7 F. Weapons and harmful substances.Have at any time in their possession or on or about their person, concealed or otherwise, any weaponincluding but not limited to, a firearm, pistol, revolver, rifle, shotgun, bow and arrow (except those setup for fishing), slingshot, cross bow, spear or spear gun, switchblade knife, stiletto, sword, blackjack,billy club, whip, or any weapon capable of discharging a projectile by air, spirit, gas, or explosive, anyexplosive substance or harmful solid, liquid or gaseous substance, or any other dangerous weapon,except at those ranges or areas designated for their use, and then only in accordance with the rules,regulations, and restrictions duly set forth for the proper use of such ranges or areas. Nothingcontained herein shall be construed to prevent any sheriff's forest preserve police, deputy, sheriff,coroner, game warden, state policeman, or any other duly sworn peace officer from carrying suchweapons as may be authorized by law and necessary in the discharge of their duties, nor shall it applyto any person summoned by any such. This was reviewed in 2009. Any insight would be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RacerDave6 Posted April 5, 2015 at 09:36 AM Share Posted April 5, 2015 at 09:36 AM I would guess that they didn't update their regulations when the FCCL was implemented. IANAL but my take is your good anywhere in the preserve except buildings and the playground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunhaven1 Posted April 22, 2015 at 01:39 AM Share Posted April 22, 2015 at 01:39 AM I'm not sure if this is the correct location for this , but does anyone know if the parking lot for the VA hospital in North Chicago is safe to have my firearm in the car, or is this considered a military installation ? I have to attend a meeting there tomorrow night so any help would be apriciated Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firepiper Posted April 22, 2015 at 02:19 AM Share Posted April 22, 2015 at 02:19 AM (edited) I'm not sure if this is the correct location for this , but does anyone know if the parking lot for the VA hospital in North Chicago is safe to have my firearm in the car, or is this considered a military installation ? I have to attend a meeting there tomorrow night so any help would be apriciatedThanksAs far as previous discussion here, firearms are NOT permitted on the property of VA medical facilities whatsoever.......no parking lot provisions Edited April 22, 2015 at 02:21 AM by firepiper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunhaven1 Posted April 22, 2015 at 02:32 AM Share Posted April 22, 2015 at 02:32 AM Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmart Posted April 22, 2015 at 02:37 AM Share Posted April 22, 2015 at 02:37 AM not fair..., they tried to trick me!Library removed CPZ sign and I thought perhaps they'd relaxed their worries. Then to be sure I reread the 23 prohibited zones and noted #5, any building under the control of a unit of local government. Dang... (yes, I knew better to begin with) It seems to me that any building that falls under the 23 prohibited areas should be required to post just to avoid confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted April 22, 2015 at 02:41 AM Share Posted April 22, 2015 at 02:41 AM It seems to me that any building that falls under the 23 prohibited areas should be required to post just to avoid confusion. They are required to post, but except for facilities with alcohol sales >50%, there is no penalty for failing to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockman Posted April 22, 2015 at 12:27 PM Share Posted April 22, 2015 at 12:27 PM The VA lot would be prohibited only if posted as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rat Posted April 22, 2015 at 02:48 PM Share Posted April 22, 2015 at 02:48 PM not fair..., they tried to trick me!Library removed CPZ sign and I thought perhaps they'd relaxed their worries. Then to be sure I reread the 23 prohibited zones and noted #5, any building under the control of a unit of local government. Dang... (yes, I knew better to begin with) It seems to me that any building that falls under the 23 prohibited areas should be required to post just to avoid confusion. Libraries are specifically prohibited anyway - #18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmart Posted April 22, 2015 at 03:14 PM Share Posted April 22, 2015 at 03:14 PM Yes... also alluded to in #5. My point was that they weren't posted which might lead the unwary or ignorant to a violation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunhaven1 Posted July 1, 2015 at 02:21 AM Share Posted July 1, 2015 at 02:21 AM I couldn't find if this has been covered but does anyone know if the Waukegan pier into Lake Michigan is posted or falls under government property and is a GFZ? Any help would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted July 30, 2015 at 10:23 PM Share Posted July 30, 2015 at 10:23 PM is a Animal hospital a GFZ ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted July 30, 2015 at 10:33 PM Share Posted July 30, 2015 at 10:33 PM is a Animal hospital a GFZ ? Only if they choose to post Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydawg13 Posted July 31, 2015 at 12:28 AM Share Posted July 31, 2015 at 12:28 AM (edited) good its not I couldn't find if this has been covered but does anyone know if the Waukegan pier into Lake Michigan is posted or falls under government property and is a GFZ? Any help would be great it belongs to the cost guard so yes its a GFZ Edited July 31, 2015 at 12:29 AM by luckydawg13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted September 2, 2015 at 07:18 PM Share Posted September 2, 2015 at 07:18 PM Does anyone invest with a local Edward Jones branch? I don’t typically frequent my broker’s office, but happened to stop in for some paperwork. I noticed he had posted the IL no firearms sign on his door. So went to another EJ office here in town and there also was posted.I reviewed the list of forbidden zones and cannot come up with anything that would indicate that this type of office is “required” to post.Does anyone else invest with these guys and does anyone know if it is their choice to be posting or is it required, something I’m possibly missing in the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevis Posted September 2, 2015 at 07:22 PM Share Posted September 2, 2015 at 07:22 PM Does anyone invest with a local Edward Jones branch? I don’t typically frequent my broker’s office, but happened to stop in for some paperwork. I noticed he had posted the IL no firearms sign on his door. So went to another EJ office here in town and there also was posted.I reviewed the list of forbidden zones and cannot come up with anything that would indicate that this type of office is “required” to post.Does anyone else invest with these guys and does anyone know if it is their choice to be posting or is it required, something I’m possibly missing in the list?Not in the law, it's corporate policy. Take your money elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted September 2, 2015 at 07:42 PM Share Posted September 2, 2015 at 07:42 PM Thank you Trevis !! That being said does anyone have any 2A friendly investment brokers / options they currently do business with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted September 2, 2015 at 07:52 PM Share Posted September 2, 2015 at 07:52 PM Located this thread. Moving my posts to here: http://illinoiscarry.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=49167 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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