mab22 Posted March 12, 2021 at 11:14 PM Share Posted March 12, 2021 at 11:14 PM Reconciliation is for enacting legislation on taxes, spending, and the debt limit. Other categories require 60 votes. Not to say that the dumbocrats won't try to find some slithery sneaky way to try to fit their gun control into at least one of those categories. But even the wimpy SCOTUS would probably put the kibosh on that. Well, maybe.It’s not just the Dumbo party we have to worry about, Mittens Romney likes to show off his RINO status!Then there is Collins and murkowski I believe. So you can start cutting that 60 vote majority slimmer and slimmer. Never really know what McConnell is gonna do either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmagloo Posted March 12, 2021 at 11:20 PM Share Posted March 12, 2021 at 11:20 PM All I want to know is, where are all of the Pro-2A Democratic gunowners that promised us we had nothing to worry about? Nothing but crickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flynn Posted March 12, 2021 at 11:43 PM Share Posted March 12, 2021 at 11:43 PM All I want to know is, where are all of the Pro-2A Democratic gunowners that promised us we had nothing to worry about? Nothing but crickets.LoL if they do show up I'm sure they will use the "But Trump was anti gun as well..." claim as they have in other threads here, as a deflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted March 13, 2021 at 04:21 AM Share Posted March 13, 2021 at 04:21 AM All I want to know is, where are all of the Pro-2A Democratic gunowners that promised us we had nothing to worry about? Nothing but crickets.I have been thinking the same thing. They'll come along when the conversation benefits them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defaultdotxbe Posted March 13, 2021 at 01:50 PM Share Posted March 13, 2021 at 01:50 PM Reconciliation is for enacting legislation on taxes, spending, and the debt limit. Other categories require 60 votes. Not to say that the dumbocrats won't try to find some slithery sneaky way to try to fit their gun control into at least one of those categories. But even the wimpy SCOTUS would probably put the kibosh on that. Well, maybe.When this bill fails they'll try Biden's suggestion of adding "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazines to the NFA. Since the NFA is primarily a tax bill they'll pass that one via reconciliation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted March 13, 2021 at 02:20 PM Share Posted March 13, 2021 at 02:20 PM Reconciliation is for enacting legislation on taxes, spending, and the debt limit. Other categories require 60 votes. Not to say that the dumbocrats won't try to find some slithery sneaky way to try to fit their gun control into at least one of those categories. But even the wimpy SCOTUS would probably put the kibosh on that. Well, maybe.Is it so stated in the constitution, or in a rule book, or in a law?I think scotus would say if it’s their rules they can change them as that body wants to. But the constitution also states that the state congresses make the rules for voting and they turned tail and ignored that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTX63 Posted March 13, 2021 at 02:59 PM Share Posted March 13, 2021 at 02:59 PM Liberal gun owners should be shocked. Shocked I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted March 13, 2021 at 05:15 PM Share Posted March 13, 2021 at 05:15 PM Reconciliation is for enacting legislation on taxes, spending, and the debt limit. Other categories require 60 votes. Not to say that the dumbocrats won't try to find some slithery sneaky way to try to fit their gun control into at least one of those categories. But even the wimpy SCOTUS would probably put the kibosh on that. Well, maybe.Is it so stated in the constitution, or in a rule book, or in a law?I think scotus would say if it’s their rules they can change them as that body wants to. But the constitution also states that the state congresses make the rules for voting and they turned tail and ignored that one... The Constitution allows both chambers to set their own rules. As of now, there are two Democrat senators that have pretty clearly expressed that they will not vote for abolishing the filibuster.Whichever party is in power can get around the reconciliation rules with legislation. But that would certainly require nuking the filibuster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Str8Shooter Posted March 13, 2021 at 07:02 PM Share Posted March 13, 2021 at 07:02 PM https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables/table-20 FBI says 7 murders by rifle and 10 murders by hands, fists, feet, etc. in Illinois in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted March 14, 2021 at 07:00 PM Share Posted March 14, 2021 at 07:00 PM Reconciliation is for enacting legislation on taxes, spending, and the debt limit. Other categories require 60 votes. Not to say that the dumbocrats won't try to find some slithery sneaky way to try to fit their gun control into at least one of those categories. But even the wimpy SCOTUS would probably put the kibosh on that. Well, maybe.When this bill fails they'll try Biden's suggestion of adding "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazines to the NFA. Since the NFA is primarily a tax bill they'll pass that one via reconciliation This right here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mab22 Posted March 15, 2021 at 11:07 AM Share Posted March 15, 2021 at 11:07 AM According to this article, which has links to other articles, the D’s claim 8 R’s could go their way. Gonna be a nail biter... https://www.zerohedge.com/political/anti-2nd-amendment-groups-swarm-senate-amid-push-restrict-gun-rights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Posted March 15, 2021 at 01:09 PM Share Posted March 15, 2021 at 01:09 PM According to this article, which has links to other articles, the D’s claim 8 R’s could go their way. Gonna be a nail biter... https://www.zerohedge.com/political/anti-2nd-amendment-groups-swarm-senate-amid-push-restrict-gun-rightsThat is a poorly written article. Are the 8 he’s talking about the 8 house reps who voted for it? They need 10 senate Rs to flip which seems a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springfield shooter Posted March 15, 2021 at 02:32 PM Share Posted March 15, 2021 at 02:32 PM According to this article, which has links to other articles, the D’s claim 8 R’s could go their way. Gonna be a nail biter... https://www.zerohedge.com/political/anti-2nd-amendment-groups-swarm-senate-amid-push-restrict-gun-rightsThat is a poorly written article. Are the 8 he’s talking about the 8 house reps who voted for it? They need 10 senate Rs to flip which seems a stretch. Scanning the article, it seems that with the exception of the Schumer video, nobody from the Senate is quoted. The "eight Republicans" are probably the eight from the House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crufflesmuth Posted March 24, 2021 at 12:26 AM Share Posted March 24, 2021 at 12:26 AM Reconciliation is for enacting legislation on taxes, spending, and the debt limit. Other categories require 60 votes. Not to say that the dumbocrats won't try to find some slithery sneaky way to try to fit their gun control into at least one of those categories. But even the wimpy SCOTUS would probably put the kibosh on that. Well, maybe.When this bill fails they'll try Biden's suggestion of adding "assault weapons" and "high capacity" magazines to the NFA. Since the NFA is primarily a tax bill they'll pass that one via reconciliation This right here! I don't know. I'm already waiting 5+ months for NFA paperwork, if they went that route, it might give litigators enough ammo to challenge the NFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherNov Posted March 26, 2021 at 04:37 PM Share Posted March 26, 2021 at 04:37 PM I assume the grandfather clause allows me to keep the weapons and magazines I already have. But do you think we'll be allowed to use them? I travel to Texas to hunt pigs every year, and I sure don't want to start using a bolt action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chislinger Posted March 30, 2021 at 01:38 AM Share Posted March 30, 2021 at 01:38 AM I assume the grandfather clause allows me to keep the weapons and magazines I already have. But do you think we'll be allowed to use them? I travel to Texas to hunt pigs every year, and I sure don't want to start using a bolt action.They want you to use them for the parts ban to work as intended. And don't think parts won't be next on the ban list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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